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Nope, no VMWare on that machine. And once formatted a and you account for the ~500MB Windows uses for the extra partitions, you only end up with about 55GB of useable space.

But it doesn't really matter since the OP said he is now getting a 256GB drive.
55GB is still plenty of room, a normal system drive doesn't take up more than around 40GB max..
If you got more than 40GB then either you have VMware or Photoshop or Visual Studio or some other huge suite on the drive, or you got stuff on there which doesn't need to be....like movies.
Even a recovery image is only ~3GB.


Semantics anyhow like you said as ther OP has made his decision......
 

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55GB is still plenty of room, a normal system drive doesn't take up more than around 40GB max..If you got more than 40GB then either you have VMware or Photoshop or Visual Studiot or some other huge suite on the drive, or you got stuff on there which doesn't need to be....like movies.
Semantics anyhow like you said as ther OP has made his decision.

They do when you actually use them. Windows likes to just accumulate stuff. I don't even have that many programs install on it. Windows itself likes to grow to near 30GB over time.
 
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They do when you actually use them. Windows likes to just accumulate stuff. I don't even have that many programs install on it. Windows itself likes to grow to near 30GB over time.
That's is not true. I do Windows deployment and I know exactly how much space is needed.
Windows doesn't just magically grow by 30GB either. It grows because you've put files on the drive, if you say no then my guess is your laptop is OEM with bloatware on it.

Semantics anyhow as you said OP hs decided...so no point carying on.
 
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That's is not true. I do Windows deployment and I know exactly how much space is needed.
Windows doesn't just magically grow by 30GB either. It grows because you've put files on the drive, if you say no then my guess is your laptop is OEM with bloatware on it.

I do too, which is how I know whats required.. But he didn't say it grows BY 30GB he said it grows TO 30GB - which DOES happen over time if left unchecked. However that is just due to it accumulating garbage like old restore points, update backup data, temp files, etc.. All of which can be dumped with Disk Cleanup.
 

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That's is not true. I do Windows deployment and I know exactly how much space is needed.
Windows doesn't just magically grow by 30GB either. It grows because you've put files on the drive, if you say no then my guess is your laptop is OEM with bloatware on it.

Semantics anyhow as you said OP hs decided...so no point carying on.

I did Windows deployments at Microsoft on systems in the labs. And newtekie is right. We always left a little more space on the OS partition for that exact reason.
 

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That's is not true. I do Windows deployment and I know exactly how much space is needed.
Windows doesn't just magically grow by 30GB either. It grows because you've put files on the drive, if you say no then my guess is your laptop is OEM with bloatware on it.

By OEM I assume you mean using the factory Install. Which isn't the case. I reformat every OEM computer I get. There is no bloatware on it. In fact it hasn't even been installed all that long, I reformatted this machine back in June.

The Widows folder alone on this laptop alone is 26GB. Another 6GB for hyberfil, and 4GB for pagefile(which is only that small because I manually set it, if I left it on auto it would be 16GB, because Windows like use uselessly big page files). Microsoft Office is another 2GB(including MSOcache). Adobe CS Suite is another 7GB. Oh and another 5.6GB for the Windows 10 pre-load files. I've got a few other small programs installed(Filezilla Client, O&O Defrag, Daemon Tools Lite, Classic Shell, Kodi, Notepad++, and Filezilla) but that's it. I've got no documents on this computer(except 3 work related excel spread sheets on the desktop), no pictures, no movies, no media or data files at all actually. Just Windows and a few programs I use.

Can I go through and manually trim some of this down? Sure, but Disk Cleanup won't do it automatically. I could manually delete the MSOcache folder, I know that is safe because I'm a computer tech. I could delete the Windows 10 pre-load files, Disk Cleanup will actually do this, but you have to uninstall the update related to it before it will show up to be deleted in Disk Cleanup. And how many average users know this?

But more to the point, if I had a 64GB SSD, and it was setup up as just the system drive in the OP's computer, there would be no way I could install any games on it. Heck, I'd be close to limit to just install some other programs. So I'd have to install them on the HDD. And a good half of the SSD would go to waste on Windows related files that I'll likely never use. WinSxS goes largely unused, but is one of the largest space hogs, same thing with the Installers folder. In fact both of those folders are almost never used, but are the two biggest folders in the Windows directory. Why waste SSD space on them? That is the beauty of using the SSD has a cache instead of an independent system drive. The caching algorithm recognizes files aren't being used, and other files are used more often, and puts the files used more often on the SSD and leaves the files used less often on the HDD. That is why I suggest an SSD 64GB or smaller should be used as a Cache drive. Yeah, if you have a 128GB SSD, use it as your system drive(I do on my laptop), but 64GB is better used as a Cache.

All of which can be dumped with Disk Cleanup.

Saddly that isn't entirely true. Nothing automatic will get rid of the install files left in the Installer folder. The Disk Cleanup usually clears a couple hundred MB of Windows Update Cleanup, but nothing substantial. The WinSxS and Installers folders in Windows just grow the more you use the system.
 
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I have my Os installed on a 256gb ssd. I have next to nothing else installed besides windows and a couple small programs and I am using 42gb. I have done a complete disk cleanup a few days ago. I am still at 42gb.
 
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