• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Should i get new Monitor? or, new card?

CDdude55

Crazy 4 TPU!!!
Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Messages
8,178 (2.15/day)
Likes
1,269
Location
Virginia
System Name CDdude's Rig!
Processor AMD Athlon II X4 620
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Cooling Corsair H70
Memory 8GB Corsair Vengence @1600mhz
Video Card(s) XFX HD 6970 2GB
Storage OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD/WD Velociraptor 300GB
Display(s) ASUS VH232H 23" 1920x1080
Case Cooler Master CM690 (w/ side window)
Audio Device(s) Onboard (It sounds fine)
Power Supply Corsair 850TX
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP1
#1
Last edited:
Joined
Mar 8, 2009
Messages
1,077 (0.34/day)
Likes
305
System Name Primary Rig
Processor e8500 Q822A549 4.5ghz AIR
Motherboard Foxconn Mars P35
Cooling TRUE
Memory 2 x2GB Patriot Viper 1066 5-5-5-12 @ 1.8v
Video Card(s) Sapphire 5870 Unlocked
Storage 300gb Velociraptor
Display(s) Dell 24" Ultrasharp
Case Coolermaster CM690
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling 750w Quad Silencer
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x86
#2
Asus>Viewsonic.
However, you won't be able to do Crysis well at highest settings at that res with your current card.
 
Joined
Mar 4, 2009
Messages
644 (0.20/day)
Likes
129
System Name StealthX
Processor Intel i7 2700k
Motherboard Asus SABERTOOTH z77
Cooling Prolimatech Genesis
Memory CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB DDR3
Video Card(s) ASUS GTX 960 2GB black edition
Storage CORSAIR FORCE GT 120GB SSD + Samsung Spinpoint F3 (1TB + 2 x 500GB)
Display(s) Acer G235H 23" (1920 x 1080)
Case Silverstone Raven RV02
Audio Device(s) OB
Power Supply Seasonic x650 GOLD
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
#3
Get the monitor for now ... and wait till the prices drop ... another few weeks to go for nVidias FERMI launch .... lets hope their prices are competitive so that ATi drops the prices on the 5xxx series ...

EDIT: I like the ASUS monitor out of the two ... but check these as well ....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9179&cm_re=1920_x_1080-_-24-009-179-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...6074&cm_re=1920_x_1080-_-24-236-074-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9201&cm_re=1920_x_1080-_-24-009-201-_-Product
 
Last edited:

AsRock

TPU addict
Joined
Jun 23, 2007
Messages
15,316 (4.00/day)
Likes
4,724
Location
US
Processor 2500k \ 3770k
Motherboard ASRock Z68 \ Z77
Memory Samsung low profile 1600
Video Card(s) XFX 6770 \ XFX R9 290X
Storage Intel 80Gb (SATA2) WD 250Gb \ Team SSD+Samsung Evo 250Gb+500Gb+ 2xCorsair Force+WD250GbHDD
Display(s) Samsung 1080P \ Toshiba HDTV 1080P
Case HTPC400 \ Thermaltake Armor case ( original ), With Zalman fan controller ( wattage usage ).
Audio Device(s) Yamaha RX-V475 \ Marantz SR5008 Tannoy Mercury MKII Paradigm 5SE + Tannoy Mercury F4
Power Supply PC&Power 750w \ Seasonic 750w MKII
Mouse MS intelimouse \ Logitech G700s + Steelseries Sensei wireless
Keyboard Logitech K120 \ ROCCAT MK Pro ( modded amber leds )
Benchmark Scores Meh benchmarks.
#4
Catch 22. All so depends on what games you playing too and what games you think you be playing buy time you upgrade the other.

IMO i'd get a 5850 then use mass AA \ AF :p :). As if you do it the other way your not going need AA but if you play games like Stalker for example you going run in to smoothness issue's.

All though there is a catch to that to as if there is no AA support it's going look real bad but that said most games have AA support so again 5850.

EDIT: there is that point AFW says the prices are likely to drop to so wait if you can
 
Joined
Aug 17, 2008
Messages
2,184 (0.64/day)
Likes
1,027
Location
Minnesota, USA
System Name TIGRAlpha4
Processor i5 750 @ 3.6GHz
Motherboard ASRock P55 Deluxe
Cooling S1283 + FFB1212VHE
Memory 16GB DDR3 1800, 7-8-7-24
Video Card(s) 560 Ti
Storage 128GB Kingston SSD + 16TB RAID 6
Display(s) Dell P1130 + Samsung 275T
Case Antec Twelve Hundred
Power Supply Silverstone OP1000-E
#5
I'd grab the Asus out of the two and wait for video card prices to drop, as afw said. Now's really not the best time to be buying video cards.
 
Joined
May 16, 2008
Messages
1,258 (0.36/day)
Likes
221
Location
North Carolina
#6
That's exactly what I thought. If you get a bigger monitor, you need more GPU, if you get more GPU, then you need a bigger monitor. :laugh:

I would get the monitor. I would rather have a big monitor and play at reduced settings than to max out the game on a smaller one. In your situation, a 4870 should be able to play most games at high settings at 1920x1080. But the difference between 19in and 24in is HUGE. I speak from personal experience. Getting a bigger monitor will be one of the most awesome things you can do. A new CPU or GPU will give you a good performance boost in games but a new monitor will make everything you do on your computer look amazing.
 
Joined
Aug 9, 2006
Messages
1,003 (0.24/day)
Likes
156
System Name [Primary Workstation]
Processor Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield @ 3.8GHz/4.55GHz [24-7/Bench]
Motherboard EVGA X58 E758-A1 [Tweaked right!]
Cooling Cooler Master V8 [stock fan + two 133CFM ULTRA KAZE fans]
Memory 12GB [Kingston HyperX]
Video Card(s) constantly upgrading/downgrading [prefer nVidia]
Storage constantly upgrading/downgrading [prefer Hitachi/Samsung]
Display(s) Triple LCD [40 inch primary + 32 & 28 inch auxiliary displays]
Case Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 [Mesh Mod, CFM Overload]
Audio Device(s) ASUS Xonar D1 + onboard Realtek ALC889A [Logitech Z-5300 Spk., Niko 650-HP 5.1 Hp., X-Bass Hp.]
Power Supply Corsair TX950W [aka Reactor]
Software This and that... [All software 100% legit and paid for, 0% pirated]
Benchmark Scores Ridiculously good scores!!!
#7
I was thinking about getting a new monitor, my ''19 Hanns G is ok, but i want a higher quality image than 1440x900. I was thinking about going to a 24'' monitor.(1920x1080)

Here's the monitors i was looking at:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O9EUSO/?tag=tec06d-20

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001LYPIIS/?tag=tec06d-20

Or

Should i just get a 5850?

I'm a heavy gamer, and i play all types of games.(besides RTS, MMO's and most RPG's)

Well, that is sort of a difficult decision. Personally I wouldn't bother with 24-inch setups. Ever since I got my 28-inch I don't even use my 42-inch TV for watching TV/movies. So, there are more benefits a large monitor gives you than just gaming related stuff. Heck, few weeks ago TigerDirect had a 28-inch screen on sale for around $255-$260 with free shipping. That is pretty close to what decent 24-inchers cost nowadays.

It all depends if your games are running fine with your current monitor/res. I mean, if you are having problems with some games at 1440x900 with you current video card, then you are definitively going to have problems at 1920x1200 with that same card in those games. If you can max out your games at 1440x900 then get a new monitor, but you might need a new card since 1920x1200 is going to put a strain on that 4870 of yours.

Honestly, I would get both and be done with it. Get a monitor first and then get a nice card a month or two down the road once prices drop due to Fermi release.

Note: By the way I have a 19-inch Hanns-G monitor serving as my auxiliary screen. It is a pretty decent monitor.
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
14,885 (3.45/day)
Likes
5,415
System Name A dancer in your disco of fire
Processor i3 4130 3.4Ghz
Motherboard MSI B85M-E45
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Memory 4 x 4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport 1400Mhz
Video Card(s) Asus GTX 760 DCU2OC 2GB
Storage Crucial BX100 120GB | WD Blue 1TB x 2
Display(s) BenQ GL2450HT
Case AeroCool DS Cube White
Power Supply Cooler Master G550M
Mouse Intellimouse Explorer 3.0
Keyboard Dell SK-3205
Software Windows 10 Pro
#8
Widescreen 19" monitors are a pain in the rectum imo. 1280*1024 is much better on a monitor that size. So I'd go for that Asus monitor.

Sure a 28 incher would be nice, but those are a bit to big imo.. Unless you're using them as a telly as well, but on a normal desk it's just to big. I for one think 22 inch is the sweet spot. :)
 
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
678 (0.17/day)
Likes
191
Processor i7 4790k @ 4.8 Ghz
Motherboard ASUS Z97-E/USB 3.1
Cooling Raystorm, D5 Vario, 480 x2 Rads, EK blocks
Memory 16gb G.Skill DDR3 2400mhz
Video Card(s) Nvidia GTX 1080 FE SLI @2k core 8k mem
Storage Crucial M4 256gb, Samsung EVO 250gb, Mushkin Reactor 1TB, Seagate 3TB, WD Red 6TB x2
Display(s) Acer xb270hu 144hz 2560x1440
Case Enthoo Primo
Audio Device(s) HT Omega Claro Halo --> Yamaha Vx375 --> ATHW1000x/Energy 5.1
Power Supply EVGA 1300w G2
Mouse Logitech g400
Keyboard Tesoro Ultimate
Software W7 64 bit
#10
Widescreen 19" monitors are a pain in the rectum imo. 1280*1024 is much better on a monitor that size. So I'd go for that Asus monitor.

Sure a 28 incher would be nice, but those are a bit to big imo.. Unless you're using them as a telly as well, but on a normal desk it's just to big. I for one think 22 inch is the sweet spot. :)
Gotta agree with Frick here. I have a 21.5 inch 1920x1080 and absolutely love it. 24" monitor's pixel pitch is way too large for me. I have to apply lots of AA to get rid of jaggies.

Frick - viste inte det fanns nagra andra svenska gamers pa TPU. Grymt!
 
Joined
Nov 9, 2008
Messages
2,191 (0.66/day)
Likes
1,068
Location
Texas
System Name Behemoth-6700k
Processor i7 6700k @ 4.7Ghz 1.37v
Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Cooling D5 Vario w/ EK X-Top; EK 240 PE, EK 420 PE; EK RES X3 150; HeatKiller IV Pro
Memory 32Gb (4x8Gb) GSkill Ripjaws 3000Mhz @ 15/16/16/35 1.35v
Video Card(s) Zotac 1080ti Amp Extreme
Storage Crucial M500 240GB; Mushkin 1TB SSD x 2; WD Blue 2TB; WD Black 1TB x2
Display(s) Acer XR341CK 34" 3440x1440; LG 27" 1920x1080
Case Phanteks Enthoo Primo; Phanteks F140SP Fans x 12 (6 x Top Rad); Noctua IPPC-2000 x4 (Bottom Rad)
Power Supply Enermax Platimax 1350
Mouse MS Trackball Optical
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB; Razer Tartarus Chroma
Software Windows 10 Pro
#11
I have to agree with the masses here too. My Asus 21.5" 1920x1080 looks great. You can probably wait for the video card until prices drop, or find a used 4870 for some crossfire action. My 4850s in crossfire completely shred Mass Effect 2 at 1920x1080, so if you are going for the bang for buck I say find a cheap 4870 for crossfire, buy the Asus monitor, and wait 6-9 months for the HD5000 video card. :toast:

Edit: Ok maybe just wait 2-3 months for the HD5000 :D
 
Joined
Apr 29, 2008
Messages
346 (0.10/day)
Likes
61
Location
Manchester, UK
Processor i7 920 D0 @ 3.2Ghz 0.95V / 4.45Ghz @ 1.35V
Motherboard Gigabyte EX58-UD3R
Cooling Xig s1283 with Push/Pull Fans
Memory 6GB Corsair XMS3 1600mhz
Video Card(s) HIS 6950 2GB @ 950/1300
Storage Samsung F3 500
Display(s) 24" Acer V243HLmb LED
Case CM690 modded for airflow
Audio Device(s) Xonar D1 -> Marantz CR502 -> B&W 686 + RSW12
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750
Software Win7 x64 Home Premium
Benchmark Scores SP1M - 10s AQM - 202,200 marks w/ 8800gs + E7300 3D '06 - 26,000 4890+4870
#12
Atm a monitor's a better investment than a card that should be coming down in price soon. Besides, a 4870 won't struggle too much with reasonable settings at 1920x1080
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 20, 2007
Messages
3,833 (1.00/day)
Likes
594
System Name Medusa
Processor i7 2600k @4.8ghz
Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro
Cooling CPU : Noctua NH-L12 GPU: EK FC 1080 via Magicool 360 III PRO > Photon 170 (D5)
Memory 8gb Corsair XMS DDR3 @1600mhz
Video Card(s) GTX 1080 FE
Storage Vertex 4 256 /Crucial C300 256/ Hitachi 2TB 2x
Display(s) Tempest X270OC @ 120hz / LG W3000h
Case Fractal Define S [Antec Skeleton hanging in hall of fame]
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar Xense with AKG K612 cans on Monacor SA-100
Power Supply Seasonic X-850
Mouse Razer Naga 2014
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores FFXIV ARR Benchmark 1600p score 12,098[this means nothing any more!]
#13
Erm, why settle for less and get 1080p 16:9, when you can get full WUXGA 1920X1200 16:10?

You should look into Iiyama, their prices are aggressive for what they offer, and you might even find one of their 26" for less than most other manufacturer's 24"

2607WS
http://www.iiyama.com/en_GB/Product/category/2/product/180

FYI, I tested out monitors at 1080p for a while, on both 24 and 26", and I really did notice the difference between the 16:9 and 16:10. I would never drop back to 1080p.
 
Joined
May 21, 2008
Messages
4,090 (1.17/day)
Likes
766
Location
Iowa, USA
System Name FUTURE CUBE!
Processor intel Core i5 6600k
Motherboard Gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 7
Cooling Phanteks PH-TC14PE BK
Memory G.Skill TridentZ 3000 Mhz C15 32GB 2x16GB
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Aorus 1080 Ti
Storage 2x M.2 Samsung Evo 250GB/500GB / WD Blue 500GB / 2x RAID1 Toshiba P300 3TB
Display(s) Samsung C24FG70 1080p 144hz Quantum Dot/ASUS VH226H 1080p 21.5"
Case "THE CUBE" Custom built, pure Red Alder wood
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Core3D/ Logitech Z-2300 200 watts/ Beyerdynamic DT 880
Power Supply Seasonic X Gold 650W
Mouse Logitech G700
Keyboard Logitech G910
Software Windows 10 Pro
#14
get the ASUS i have the same one but at 21.5" it looks great only thing is it has one red pixel :(
 
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
6,592 (2.25/day)
Likes
5,826
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
System Name New Ho'Ryzen
Processor Ryzen 1700X @ 3.82Ghz
Motherboard Asus Crosshair VI Hero
Cooling TR Le Grand Macho & custom GPU loop
Memory 16Gb G.Skill 3200 RGB
Video Card(s) GTX1080ti (Heatkiller WB) @ 2Ghz core/1.5(12)Ghz mem
Storage Samsumg 960 Pro m2. 512Gb
Display(s) Dell Ultrasharp 27" (2560x1440)
Case Lian Li PC-V33WX
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply Seasonic Prime TItanium 850
Software W10
Benchmark Scores Look, it's a Ryzen on air........ What's the point?
#15
I think we're all agreed. Definitely the montior first and wait to see what happens in the gfx market. I have a 24" BenQ and it's far superior at 16:10 from my previous 22" LG. And then i'd go for a 5850 surely they'll drop in price?? or if pigs fly, buy a GTX470 if they're affordable in comparison.
Remember, you get to sell your old monitor and card so you could make back cash on those?
 

hat

Enthusiast
Joined
Nov 20, 2006
Messages
18,528 (4.58/day)
Likes
3,160
Location
Ohio
System Name Starlifter :: Dragonfly
Processor i5 2400 :: Athlon II x4 630
Motherboard MSI H67-G43-B3 :: GIgabyte GA-770T-USB3
Cooling Corsair H70 :: Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 4x2GB DDR3 1333 :: 2x1GB DDR3 1333
Video Card(s) 2x PNY GTX1070 :: GT720
Storage Plextor M5s 128GB, WDC Black 500GB :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, WD RE3 1TB
Display(s) Acer P216HL HDMI :: None
Case Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower
Audio Device(s) X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - iLive IT153B Soundbar (optical) :: None
Power Supply Corsair CX600w :: Unknown
Software Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores >9000
#16
Monitor... then wait for the nvidia/amd pissing contest that's soon to come
 

CDdude55

Crazy 4 TPU!!!
Joined
Jul 12, 2007
Messages
8,178 (2.15/day)
Likes
1,269
Location
Virginia
System Name CDdude's Rig!
Processor AMD Athlon II X4 620
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Cooling Corsair H70
Memory 8GB Corsair Vengence @1600mhz
Video Card(s) XFX HD 6970 2GB
Storage OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD/WD Velociraptor 300GB
Display(s) ASUS VH232H 23" 1920x1080
Case Cooler Master CM690 (w/ side window)
Audio Device(s) Onboard (It sounds fine)
Power Supply Corsair 850TX
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP1
#17
Joined
Jun 20, 2007
Messages
3,833 (1.00/day)
Likes
594
System Name Medusa
Processor i7 2600k @4.8ghz
Motherboard Asus P8P67 Pro
Cooling CPU : Noctua NH-L12 GPU: EK FC 1080 via Magicool 360 III PRO > Photon 170 (D5)
Memory 8gb Corsair XMS DDR3 @1600mhz
Video Card(s) GTX 1080 FE
Storage Vertex 4 256 /Crucial C300 256/ Hitachi 2TB 2x
Display(s) Tempest X270OC @ 120hz / LG W3000h
Case Fractal Define S [Antec Skeleton hanging in hall of fame]
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar Xense with AKG K612 cans on Monacor SA-100
Power Supply Seasonic X-850
Mouse Razer Naga 2014
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores FFXIV ARR Benchmark 1600p score 12,098[this means nothing any more!]
#18
Thanks guys.:)

How do you guys think this monitor will do?:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002453K5G/?tag=tec06d-20
I think you'll have a tough time finding a 16:10 monitor for around that price range, however if you are going with 16:9, then maybe this Acer is more aesthetically appealing, for a hair more in cost? :

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00365WZZO/?tag=tec06d-20

Though I have not found any positive or negative reviews on it.


EDIT: Here's a decent buy : http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Y1QK2W/?tag=tec06d-20
16:10, two used for $195. I'd get in contact with the sellers and have a chat with them, but as long as it's not banged up and has no pixel issues, that's a good steal.
Comments: "Very good condition in retsil box with all accessories"
Comments: "great monitor. used it for a while but no longer need. no pixles are out on this "

EDIT: To give you a rough idea of the difference between 16:9 and 16:10 on a screen either 24 or 26 inch in size, see the two attachments. It's not dead on accurate, but that's about how it would be(though with you on a smaller monitor I guess you won't get the full effect).


16:10


16:9



Keep in mind, 16:10 is becoming obsolete. It's cheaper and more viable(marketing friendly "1080p!!!") for manufacturers to produce 16:9 panels. Soon here, the only places well see 16:10, are on a few 'gamer' model monitors, and/or your big boy 30" screens. Everyone else will have converted to 16:9.

I suspect this means if you decide to sell it later on, you could get a shiny penny or two for it, because of it's rareness.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 9, 2006
Messages
1,003 (0.24/day)
Likes
156
System Name [Primary Workstation]
Processor Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield @ 3.8GHz/4.55GHz [24-7/Bench]
Motherboard EVGA X58 E758-A1 [Tweaked right!]
Cooling Cooler Master V8 [stock fan + two 133CFM ULTRA KAZE fans]
Memory 12GB [Kingston HyperX]
Video Card(s) constantly upgrading/downgrading [prefer nVidia]
Storage constantly upgrading/downgrading [prefer Hitachi/Samsung]
Display(s) Triple LCD [40 inch primary + 32 & 28 inch auxiliary displays]
Case Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 [Mesh Mod, CFM Overload]
Audio Device(s) ASUS Xonar D1 + onboard Realtek ALC889A [Logitech Z-5300 Spk., Niko 650-HP 5.1 Hp., X-Bass Hp.]
Power Supply Corsair TX950W [aka Reactor]
Software This and that... [All software 100% legit and paid for, 0% pirated]
Benchmark Scores Ridiculously good scores!!!
#19
This is the one that was on sale few weeks ago for around $260+free shipping:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3326540


It is a nearly identical clone of this one (I actually own this one):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254043


One major difference is that the Newegg model has a 3-year warranty vs 1-year on the TD model.

I would watch TigerDirect/Newegg and wait for these to drop under $300 again. They do that once a month at least. Trust me, playing Crysis @ 1920x1200[16:10] on a 28-incher at a desktop level is a awesome experience.
 

_33

New Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2006
Messages
1,248 (0.29/day)
Likes
31
Location
Quebec
System Name BEAST
Processor Intel Core i7 920 C0 Quad Core Processor LGA1366 2.66GHZ Bloomfield 8MB LGA batch 3844A509
Motherboard ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 X58 ATX LGA1366 DDR3
Cooling CoolIt ECO A.L.C. 120mm radiator
Memory G.SKILL F3-12800CL8TU-6GBPI PC3-12800 6GB 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL8-8-8-21
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon HD 4890 1GB 850MHZ 1GB 3.9GHZ GDDR5 PCI-E 2XDVI HDTV
Storage SAMSUNG SPINPOINT F1 750GB X 2, WD2500KS 250GB, WD15EARS 1.5TB, WD20EARS 2.0TB
Display(s) LG W2361V-PF Monitors 23” Widescreen LCD Monitor (23.0” diagonal)
Case Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 600W Power Supply ATX V2.2 20/24PIN EPS12V Qfan 140MM Fan Active PFC
Software Windows 7 Pro 64bit
#20
I bought an LG W2361V 23 inch that has 2ms refresh. It's perfect for widescreen gaming, but I wish I'd had a bigger monitor, like maybe a Hanns-G 28" !!! But I do want deep blacks, and wasn't sure about the quality of the Hanns-G. I like my LG which I bought out of Best Buy (easy solution I suppose). I'll keep it for a year or two until the bigger screens come in more popular.

Here's the Hanns-G I was talking about: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254043&cm_re=hanns-g-_-24-254-043-_-Product
 
Last edited: