Should I take the Vista train?

[Canuto]

Hello all..

I got my hands on a Vista Ultimate and I've read loads of reviews about vista each one different than the other from Vista is great to vista is the worst thing lol, I've seen that vista is a memory hog, it's perf. is tops 10% less compared to XP and Aero doesn't slow down games at all and so on but I'm still in doubt.. Should i or should i not take the train?

Anyway post your opinions in an orderly, civilized and productive manner if you will(this includes no vista bashing or pointless posts obviously xD).

 

[pt]

"I got my hands on a Vista Ultimate" translates to "i got a cracked version of vista ultimate"

 

[Canuto]

That would go in the pointless posts.. xD

Now come on then seriously

 

[ex_reven]

I didnt like it...
There doesnt seem like there was a point to having it when I can run XP and do exactly the same thing. The only thing XP lacks is the eye candy interface.

Everything in vista operates perfectly, and its all very neat and easy to navigate, but for me it doesnt offer anything. It seems to suck more RAM etc, which I would prefer it not to do when I need to be using Photoshop. XP is alot more streamlined, and even though you can streamline your Vista, you shouldnt have to do it.

For everyday use its brilliant. For games its probably brilliant. Some programs still dont work and some drivers arnt yet available but usually thats rare.

On a side note, just to let you know, XP and Vista dont dual boot very well. It needs to be setup correctly, because they have different boot managers.

 

[pt]

he said in msn it's original:
Canuto says:
i bought it from some gipsy guy at a town fair for 5€
i bet it's real since the dvd even says sony
so stop calling me a pirate!
PT says:
hmmm
ok

 

[Canuto]

he said in msn it's original:
Canuto says:
i bought it from some gipsy guy at a town fair for 5€
i bet it's real since the dvd even says sony
so stop calling me a pirate!
PT says:
hmmm
ok

That's called IRONY ya skank xDD

 

[L|NK|N]

Ah what the hell, give it a ride!

 

[ex_reven]

That's called IRONY ya skank xDD

This is called whoring. Postie

 

[Canuto]

I didnt like it...
There doesnt seem like there was a point to having it when I can run XP and do exactly the same thing. The only thing XP lacks is the eye candy interface.

Everything in vista operates perfectly, and its all very neat and easy to navigate, but for me it doesnt offer anything. It seems to suck more RAM etc, which I would prefer it not to do when I need to be using Photoshop. XP is alot more streamlined, and even though you can streamline your Vista, you shouldnt have to do it.

For everyday use its brilliant. For games its probably brilliant. Some programs still dont work and some drivers arnt yet available but usually thats rare.

On a side note, just to let you know, XP and Vista dont dual boot very well. It needs to be setup correctly, because they have different boot managers.

Thanks that input sure comes in handy.. Oh i don't intend to dual boot I'm backing up all the stuff and then go(or not) Vista.

 

[driver66]

I like vista alot and have not had the problems or slowdowns that most people are having,, But with your system specs I wouldnt recommend it

 

[ex_reven]

Thanks that input sure comes in handy.. Oh i don't intend to dual boot I'm backing up all the stuff and then go(or not) Vista.

I did the same thing

 

[Canuto]

I like vista alot and have not had the problems or slowdowns that most people are having,, But with your system specs I wouldnt recommend it

I've seen 3Ghz northwoods w/ 1Gb ram running it fine.. seriously, so shouldn't be a big deal anyway there's always a ram upgrade that can be made

 

[russianboy]

I enjoyed how it discovers hardware and does everything by itself w/o intervention from the user (ease of use) but I experienced )on two computers) BSODs, program incompatibility, on mine it gave me slow downs due to memory hoggage, my page file was raped by vista, it was never the same, 90% of my gig was used (wtf?) and even though I payed nothing for it, I abandoned my vista harddrive until SP1 due to not being able to install ANY app for some reason, a system restore gives me loss of network.

Not recommended until Service packs are released.

peace

PS XP can do anything vista can *except finding networking devices automatically. But you rarly have to set up that, XP is more stable, and I have 70% more RAM available .

But my page file has been molested by the equivalent of twenty micheal jacksons, and it never was the same.

 

[driver66]

I've seen 3Ghz northwoods w/ 1Gb ram running it fine.. seriously, so shouldn't be a big deal anyway there's always a ram upgrade that can be made

I get your point and it's valid But Your GPU will make the upgrade useless.
You wont get any benefits from running vista whatsoever/no aero/ and will get a slowdown in performance compared to xp. just my honest opinion

 

[Canuto]

I get your point and it's valid But Your GPU will make the upgrade useless.
You wont get any benefits from running vista whatsoever/no aero/ and will get a slowdown in performance compared to xp. just my honest opinion

That's true But my GPU never ceases to surprise me xD Anyway I see a 2600XT in the horizon..

Even so Vista ain't just Aero.

 

[ex_reven]

I enjoyed how it discovers hardware and does everything by itself w/o intervention from the user (ease of use)

IMO it doesnt really do much better than XP at this. XP comes packed with the usual CD/DVD drivers etc as does vista. I did however like how it automatically updated my Catalyst Drivers to the latest ones as soon as it picked up my video card. Very nice touch.

 

[russianboy]

Oh, btw, Vista leaves shitloads of temp files, @ one point I had a 100 gb of temp files, and I was wondering "why i my space disappearing so quickly".

It's almost like vista is configured to download its own porn (& watch it). That would explain the slowdowns, erratic behavior and artifacts coming from it.

 

[Canuto]

Oh, btw, Vista leaves shitloads of temp files, @ one point I had a 100 gb of temp files, and I was wondering "why i my space disappearing so quickly".

It's almost like vista is configured to download its own porn (& watch it). That would explain the slowdowns, erratic behavior and artifacts coming from it.

I'm sure that something can be done about that, I wish...

 

[russianboy]

well you can clean it up, but its pretty much the equivalent of the garbage man doing a lousy job

Perhaps it will be fixed.

 

[Canuto]

Maybe it has already(updates YAY xD)

 

[russianboy]

if it is anything like m$'s other OS's, it will be awhile before it is any good to be kept as a permanent OS.

I found an 80 mb XP iso that takes up 27 mb @ boot! The benchie boost would be phenomenal! Interested?

 

[Wile E]

if it is anything like m$'s other OS's, it will be awhile before it is any good to be kept as a permanent OS.

I found an 80 mb XP iso that takes up 27 mb @ boot! The benchie boost would be phenomenal! Interested?

You can do that with nLite. Find a virgin Corporate or Student edition of XP, and give it a shot.

@Canuto - As for Vista, I, like many others, liked it. It was stable, never gave me problems, looked good, and was faster in day to day use (web surfing and such). It does use a lot of ram, but most of that is Superfetch. It basically prefetches parts of your most used programs into ram, so they launch faster. It releases most of that ram if a proggy needs it, but not all, so it still does use a little more than XP.

I just see no reason to move over to it completely yet. As Reven said, it's really nice, but doesn't really offer anything new. DX10 may be the only exception, but that's not even really being used much yet.

Good for dual boot if you have DX10 hardware, not recommended as an XP replacement yet, tho.

 

[Ehstii]

i thought it sucked...

had too many conflicting problems with software and stuff.

 

[Darth_Pewee]

Hey there

i used Vista for awhile, but got fed up with the serious hardware driver drops they made

my Audigy was supported, but barely, it didnt work the way it should.

the aero feature was cool for awhile, but afterwards was lame, other than the thumbnail feature.. that was kinda neat...

wile E hit the nail on the head, the only thing that was really worth the upgrade was the DX10, that actually seemed to make my GPU perform a touch better... but unless you have a jonesing to play Halo 2, then DX10 is nothing special... after about a month i got tired of it, and went back to XP and im probably staying that way, until a SP for it comes out, and i get a custom DELL laptop computing made portable.....

 

[ex_reven]

@Canuto - As for Vista, I, like many others, liked it. It was stable, never gave me problems, looked good, and was faster in day to day use (web surfing and such). It does use a lot of ram, but most of that is Superfetch. It basically prefetches parts of your most used programs into ram, so they launch faster. It releases most of that ram if a proggy needs it, but not all, so it still does use a little more than XP.

To Canuto: If you choose to Keep vista, but dont like the constant use of your RAM by Superfetch, just be aware that it is possible to turn off .

Wile E is correct in stating that its excellent for the routine windows tasks. All it sucks at is the specialised tasks (video editing/graphic design) which you wouldnt really be doing on a conventional rig anyways.