Small video cards <3

silentbogo · Aug 24, 2016

Frag Maniac said:
This seems to be the best mini GPU so far.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=GV-N107IX8&c=fr&hash=fc50np+kTPpC2wHe4fzycEhtOGNkDMge6L8bpYHxpVMiZEvvbBmVxQUhICd3AbpH4C/2WQmbiSkhFTBcKt+MfivPLinaoyGJPKgv/ptE8gXT1UPD2Cfe8ZhrTHtG&gclid=Cj0KEQjw6O-9BRDjhYXH2bOb8Z4BEiQAWRdukynLtu_9ox9Bif9Ix47D95xq727s_Ame39zItQQo2NgaAmXp8P8HAQ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125893

I've been looking for a comprehensive review on it, but haven't been able to find one. Anyone have a link to a decent review on this card?

Haven't seen one either, but the previous GTX970 ITX OC had some mixed reviews. Some praised the card for its size and performance, some blamed Gigabyte for poor cooling system.
Here are temperatures after 20-minute Heaven benchmark inside a properly vented HAF 922 in an air-conditioned building:

Stick it in HTPC or ITX case, and you get a toast (still, not as bad as Inno3D)....

Caring1 · Aug 24, 2016

silentbogo said:
Haven't seen one either, but the previous GTX970 ITX OC had some mixed reviews. Some praised the card for its size and performance, some blamed Gigabyte for poor cooling system.
Here are temperatures after 20-minute Heaven benchmark inside a properly vented HAF 922 in an air-conditioned building:
Stick it in HTPC or ITX case, and you get a toast (still, not as bad as Inno3D)....

VRM just needs to be cooled adequately, the Graphics and Vram chips are alright.
I'd blame the cooler design too.

erocker · Aug 24, 2016

mad1394 said:
Haven't seen a single slot card in years. I just don't see them making a comeback, especially now that better cooling yields more mhz and thus more performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...3&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=36

Lots of them.

Caring1 · Aug 24, 2016

erocker said:
Lots of them.

Full height cards?

hertz9753 · Aug 24, 2016

I'm sorry but that card looks like an ES. Those brackets look like somebody gave a guy a dremel and a drill. "We need it in five minutes".

silentbogo · Aug 24, 2016

erocker said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709 600038363&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICED&PageSize=36

Lots of them.

Those are all LP, and only few are actually single-slot.
Even my old HD6570 with wrap-around passive cooling is classified as a single-slot, but cannot be used as a single-slot (blocks ~2-3mm of the lower PCI-E)

Frag_Maniac · Aug 24, 2016

silentbogo said:
Stick it in HTPC or ITX case, and you get a toast (still, not as bad as Inno3D)....

Which is why you always want to find comprehensive reviews on such a card. Not much space for a cooler. As mentioned they seemed to nail everything but the VRMs on that 970 though.

silentbogo · Aug 24, 2016

Frag Maniac said:
Which is why you always want to find comprehensive reviews on such a card. Not much space for a cooler. As mentioned they seemed to nail everything but the VRMs on that 970 though.

I came across this problem awhile ago, while looking for a small replacement for my GTX750Ti. The only 2 cards available in Kiev were Gigabyte and Inno3D - both suffering from the same problem (second one had near 110°C on VRMs at high load).
ASUS managed to keep it under 95, while using much simpler cooling solution. Unfortunately every retailer was out, and there were no used options either (I guess owners of this card liked it too much to sell).

sn2x · Aug 26, 2016

The bigger the card/cooling solution, the better

4.5 slots w/ 2 140mm fans.

newtekie1 · Aug 26, 2016

mad1394 said:
I can't wait for HBM2 + pci express 4. Small video cards + no power connectors sounds really cool.

Hate to burst your bubble, but PCI-E 4.0 won't eliminate external connectors. The news from before was clarified a few days after it was first made, the PCI-E spec isn't increasing the slot power limit from 75w. They have just increased the officially supported PCI-E power limit, including power from external connectors, to 300w.

mad1394 · Aug 26, 2016

newtekie1 said:
Hate to burst your bubble, but PCI-E 4.0 won't eliminate external connectors. The news from before was clarified a few days after it was first made, the PCI-E spec isn't increasing the slot power limit from 75w. They have just increased the officially supported PCI-E power limit, including power from external connectors, to 300w.

Bubble thoroughly busted. At least they haven't canceled hbm2 yet

Weird how that piece of misinformation toured the web.

Keullo-e · Sep 2, 2016

There's some R9 Nanos @ 350eur in Finland, I'm so close to ordering one... Looking for used 290X/390/980 class cards, but I'm just thinking about the Nano. I will purchase on monday, any better suggestions?

For me the card doesn't need to be small (Define R4 as case), but Nano just fits in to this topic

AlphaFox · Sep 2, 2016

750Ti has decent performance, low power, and is small. I tried one and was impressed.

Kanan · Sep 2, 2016

9700 Pro said:
There's some R9 Nanos @ 350eur in Finland, I'm so close to ordering one... Looking for used 290X/390/980 class cards, but I'm just thinking about the Nano. I will purchase on monday, any better suggestions?

For me the card doesn't need to be small (Define R4 as case), but Nano just fits in to this topic

Yep, the Fury non x is very cheap, even cheaper (in Germany at least) and has a better performance to boot, at least in regard of noise and/or without OC.

Toothless · Sep 2, 2016

As much as small cards are cool and all (I'd love to get a gtx650ti for my am1 rig) my fetish lies with them nice long cards like the 5970.

tabascosauz · Sep 2, 2016

silentbogo said:
I'm still trying to order GTX1060 in ITX version.
There are none in my country, so I have to jump through hoops to get it from US retailer.
I plan to continue 1080p gaming for as long as it takes for 4K to make sense, so this card will be perfect.
EVGA GTX1060 ACX 2.0 is currently $199, but it's on the backorder status right now. Zotac also fell to the exact same price point (previously $259)
I can deal with a single 6-pin power connector, since my PC has no windows, and wiring is already a mess.

Regarding your dream of GTX1080 equivalent in ITX form factor and no power connector: just wait for the next generation of hardware. PCI-E 4.0 is on the way, HMB2 for masses is not too far either.

The nice thing about EVGA is that you can probably count on them releasing the backplates for that card family soon. They aren't too expensive to buy from their EU website, and for my purposes (of frequent transport) it's very useful in protecting the card and giving it the rigidity it needs. I'm thinking of getting the same card (6GB though) in the next few weeks, and it's nice to know they've updated their ITX-sized cards with the same ACX ball-bearing fans as their bigger cards.

sn2x said:
The bigger the card/cooling solution, the better

4.5 slots w/ 2 140mm fans.

Nice PCB sag. The bend in that card makes me cringe. Bending is what killed my backplate-less R7 265.

sn2x said:
750 Ti has ~~decent performance~~, low power, and is small.

Then obviously you haven't tried putting the card through its paces in some more respectable and demanding games / used the card as a daily driver. It was a performance miracle back in Q1 2014; it certainly isn't anymore. It's due a pretty badly needed update with Pascal to bring its performance back to acceptable standards.

Mussels · Sep 3, 2016

ironically enough, my 970 SLI upgrade got me smaller cards. took a good almost 2 inches from my single card to the two new ones... barely go past the edge of the motherboard now.

Toothless · Sep 3, 2016

sn2x said:
The bigger the card/cooling solution, the better

4.5 slots w/ 2 140mm fans.

what gpu is that i must know

illli · Sep 3, 2016

silentbogo said:
I'm still trying to order GTX1060 in ITX version.
There are none in my country, so I have to jump through hoops to get it from US retailer.
I plan to continue 1080p gaming for as long as it takes for 4K to make sense, so this card will be perfect.
EVGA GTX1060 ACX 2.0 is currently $199, but it's on the backorder status right now. Zotac also fell to the exact same price point (previously $259)
I can deal with a single 6-pin power connector, since my PC has no windows, and wiring is already a mess.

Regarding your dream of GTX1080 equivalent in ITX form factor and no power connector: just wait for the next generation of hardware. PCI-E 4.0 is on the way, HMB2 for masses is not too far either.

have you considered a stock one and slapping an aio cooler on it? If you buy from the US and something happens, warranty replacement would be a huge pain I would think. So I see the risk equal to if you just modded a stock one yourself with a 120mm aio or something. The stock 1060 has a huge plastic part sticking way past the board http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/geforce-gtx1060-back-645x565.jpg
In the past I've seen people use a 120mm cpu aio on their video cards, for example http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10642/AIO_zip2.jpeg

silentbogo · Sep 3, 2016

illli said:
have you considered a stock one and slapping an aio cooler on it? If you buy from the US and something happens, warranty replacement would be a huge pain I would think. So I see the risk equal to if you just modded a stock one yourself with a 120mm aio or something. The stock 1060 has a huge plastic part sticking way past the board http://www.legitreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/geforce-gtx1060-back-645x565.jpg
In the past I've seen people use a 120mm cpu aio on their video cards, for example http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/xcgal/albums/userpics/10642/AIO_zip2.jpeg

I have a LianLi Q11B - there is nowhere to mount an AIO. Also a reference GTX1060 has two wires soldered from PCB to 6-pin PCIe power connector, so you can't really take the turbine off and put something else on, unless you are fine with a "pigtail" hanging off the end of your card (on your second pic there is simply no shroud/heatsink, but the rest is still on for this exact reason).

illli · Sep 6, 2016

oh well. so much for that

Grings · Sep 6, 2016

From the pictures on uk retailers, it looks like the evga 1060sc has a better heatpipe cooler than the non-sc card, which has an intel style cooler, like the zotac pictured earlier

tabascosauz · Sep 6, 2016

silentbogo said:
I have a LianLi Q11B - there is nowhere to mount an AIO. Also a reference GTX1060 has two wires soldered from PCB to 6-pin PCIe power connector, so you can't really take the turbine off and put something else on, unless you are fine with a "pigtail" hanging off the end of your card (on your second pic there is simply no shroud/heatsink, but the rest is still on for this exact reason).

I'm pretty sure that only applies to the reference FE card, where the 6-pin is attached to the cooler and not the PCB. The SC Gaming looks fine.

@silentbogo ah I see

Grings said:
From the pictures on uk retailers, it looks like the evga 1060sc has a better heatpipe cooler than the non-sc card, which has an intel style cooler, like the zotac pictured earlier

Yes, this is true. The regular card features a radial heat sink that is virtually lifted from their non-ACX GTX 750 Ti. It's a complete piece of shit.

silentbogo · Sep 6, 2016

tabascosauz said:
I'm pretty sure that only applies to the reference FE card, where the 6-pin is attached to the cooler and not the PCB. The SC Gaming looks fine.

Refer to post #44

sn2x · Sep 6, 2016

tabascosauz said:
Nice PCB sag. The bend in that card makes me cringe. Bending is what killed my backplate-less R7 265.

Sad to hear it, how long did the R7 265 last? I generally change out GPUs at least once every year so hopefully I won't have to go through that. The silence makes it worth it for me.

Toothless said:
what gpu is that i must know

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