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Daaamn should be good (and expensive). I nearly always feel a bit nauseous after about 11hrs in a plane which makes it unpleasant flying to destinations anywhere in Europe via Dubai or going to North America.
 

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Aerion and Lockheed Martin have revealed they are joining forces in the race to create the world's first supersonic business jet.
The firms are working together to 'explore the feasibility of a joint development of the world's first supersonic business jet', the Aerion AS2.

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In November 2015, Aerion announced a fleet order from fractional aircraft fleet operator Flexjet for 20 AS2 aircraft.
Aerion expects the AS2's first flight in 2023 and certification in 2025.

The latest announcement with Lockheed Martin further positions Aerion as the leader in the nascent sector of civil supersonic aviation.
 
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I seem to remember a fighter jet that looked like this... Either made by the Russians or the Koreans. I dont know the model name so I can only google image search it so im not sure if it actually exists or if its something that i saw in Ace Combat games


::EDIT::

Not the one im looking for but similar...

X-3 Stiletto




X-15 Rocket Plane

Prolly this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-104_Starfighter

We had them in Thailand late '60's, I worked on Ejection seats. I remember the wing leading edges were so sharp they had guards installed after landing.

The germans loved them, they were like flying Porsches to them, , , ,

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Richard Branson-backed Boom Supersonic expects a prototype of its passenger plane to make its first test flight by the end of this year.

The firm this week came a step closer to that goal after announcing a ‘milestone’ engine delivery for the two-seater, known as XB-1, or ‘Baby Boom’
CEO Blake Scholl tweeted: ‘Milestone coming up: XB-1 engines are on a truck and will arrive at @boomaero hangar within a week.’
 
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Hmmmm ..... remarkably similar design to the F-104 Starfighter, which also looked good design-wise. Pilots called it the Widowmaker instead of the Starfighter.

While that is true, the main problem wasn't with the plane. It was with idiots in politics and military leadership, that pushed the F-104 into rolls it wasn't designed for and adding more and more stuff to the plane, without making sure the original design could handle it (see also late models of the BF 109). Putting a race horse in front of a plow isn't the brightest idea, but you know how it goes - administration knows best ... .

An other problem at least in Germany and some other countries was the inadequate support structure surrounding the new airforce(s), be it pilot training/qualification or maintanance/supply and the training of it, operating procedures and so. Again the farming example from above applies, you don't put a race horse in the hand of a novice.
 

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Reviving supersonic passenger flights to harm environment: study

Reason: they're repurposing engines designed for other aircraft rather than creating a new high efficiency engine for supersonic passenger aircraft. USA wants to adjust pollution requirements to accommodate them while EU doesn't.

Unless the three companies pursuing supersonic commercial aircraft can get a commitment from GE, Rolls-Royce, or other engine manufacturer to create a new engine for this class of aircraft, they might never leave the tarmac.


Edit: I'm not entirely sure how they can even make an engine to meet the requirements. They'd almost have to embed a turbo fan engine inside the body to get it off the ground and then switch to the smaller, external engines at altitude.
 

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USA wants to adjust pollution requirements to accommodate them while EU doesn't.
Pretty ironic :) seeing as that's how US Avation restricted the Operational use of Concorde.

Now the EU has Higher Enviomental Standards than the US its inconvienient and the rules should be ajusted ( in American favour)
 

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Pretty ironic :) seeing as that's how US Avation restricted the Operational use of Concorde.

Now the EU has Higher Enviomental Standards than the US its inconvienient and the rules should be ajusted ( in American favour)
All countries have strict regulations on where aircraft can go supersonic. London/New York was an ideal route because it's mostly over the Atlantic where there is no regulations. The Concorde has flown over the Midwest USA several times but it isn't clear if it was permitted to go supersonic when it did.


Not really, USA is just more inclined to bend the rules to encourage economic activity than EU is.
http://www.seas.columbia.edu/earth/wtert/sofos/nawtec/nawtec05/nawtec05-48.pdf
Philosophically, the U.S. EPA's approach is to balance the economics of the MWC and health benefits of the country. The European approach is to control pollution to the lowest value possible which is technologically achievable regardless of economic or other considerations.

This regulatory diversity reflects the traditions, the environmental and economic priorities, and the regulatory mind-set of each country and should not be viewed in terms like better or worse, or right or wrong.
These three aircraft could represent the next generation of air travel. If regulations stop them from taking flight, supersonic commercial air travel could be dead for good.
 

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USA is just more inclined to bend the rules to encourage economic activity than EU is.
And when the Shoe is on the other foot ?? the US will do the kicking
Talk about a level equal playing field
 

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It kind of looks like a modified Lear Jet, except the wings wont break apart :D
 
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It looks like this:

Arion Supersonic Jet.JPG
 
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If Elon gets the Bfr into shape it might make any high speed planes redundant commercially.

That would be a shame though.
 
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