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SpaceX Satellites Fall From Sky

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You got to love the scientists they know to explain the shit out of everything after the facts just don't ask them to predict anything.
 
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It really isn't, not in the UK anyway. You can get 5g unlimited internet here for £50 a month (Vodafone Gigabcube), get 150-300Mb down and 10-40 up. I'm testing it myself at the moment. Even on the 4g Network you can get 70Mb odd and that's a cheaper package I think than the 5g.
Not sure about the UK, but here in Au 4G and 5G do not have public IP addresses, they're all CGNAT. You cant use them for a lot of gaming or advanced things because without incoming traffic working, shit just breaks.
No remote management, no home VPN, no logging into your NAS, no game servers, blah blah etc.


And then uhh... LTE and 5G just suck horribly for load pings. seriously. They're unusuable when they're actually downloading or uploading.
 
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Surely Elon Musk already knows how long each Starlink satellite is estimated to stay in its proper orbit before its natural descent? I am sure they ran the calculations before running this company, it must be long enough to turn a decent profit.

I think the idea is really stupid personally. We should of instead had a competent government investing in fiber optics for everyone. Some small governments in Colorado have town run fiber optics. Seems like the smart idea to me.
The defenders at Azovstal would disagree.
 
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stuff like this will burn on re-entry, not big enough.

Space insurance :D
This is not quite true, the SpaceX junk crashed on a farm in Brazil, it only didn't kill anyone because it happened to fall in an uninhabited area:


And also in Australia: https://aventurasnahistoria.uol.com...cobre-lixo-espacial-em-pasto-de-ovelhas.phtml
 
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Not sure about the UK, but here in Au 4G and 5G do not have public IP addresses, they're all CGNAT. You cant use them for a lot of gaming or advanced things because without incoming traffic working, shit just breaks.
No remote management, no home VPN, no logging into your NAS, no game servers, blah blah etc.


And then uhh... LTE and 5G just suck horribly for load pings. seriously. They're unusuable when they're actually downloading or uploading.

Yes, true. Though I think Star Link will be similar for ping. In my case it's for work and we're going to use our own VPN which is data-centre based (already existed before the new site) connection to get a static external IP like that. I think some UK providers mobile do provide an external IP but vodafone don't. Vodafone bandwidth is far better than the others though.
 
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This is not quite true, the SpaceX junk crashed on a farm in Brazil, it only didn't kill anyone because it happened to fall in an uninhabited area:


And also in Australia: https://aventurasnahistoria.uol.com...cobre-lixo-espacial-em-pasto-de-ovelhas.phtml

space-x, not these satellites
 
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The idea is good though $100 for the service is simply too much in a country where $85 is the monthly wage. Perhaps when there are more sats the price will go down but I doubt that's gonna happen, this was made with first world countries in mind, sadly.
I wonder why though, these countries already have a more than decent network infrastructure so this kind of seems like a waste.

About "having connection in a warzone" I want to believe The Agency equips their mercenaries with decent tech already, and they have their own satellites, so... no need for starlink for their guys.
 
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Who will pay if space junk kills someone?
No one cause it won't.

This is not quite true, the SpaceX junk crashed on a farm in Brazil,
SpaceX junk != starlink sat. That was likely part of a heavy mission booster. Those do come back from time to time, though everyone tries to avoid it.

About "having connection in a warzone" I want to believe The Agency equips their mercenaries with decent tech already, and they have their own satellites, so... no need for starlink for their guys.
On the other hand starlink is supporting major ISPs in Ukraine right now from being cutoff, so...
 
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About "having connection in a warzone" I want to believe The Agency equips their mercenaries with decent tech already, and they have their own satellites, so... no need for starlink for their guys.
You don't watch/read the world news about Ukraine and such?....
 
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One thing it seems many have not noticed:
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They cruise at 600 km, not 210. This issue only affected the units being launched - so this could destroy up to 59 each time. A mere drop in the bucket, especially if SpaceX gets better at predicting them.

One thing about Starlink is that they do not offer service in urban areas - because these areas have decent infrastructure already. They are focusing on areas too sparsely populated for decent speeds. Also areas like Ukraine, where infrastructure is destroyed/cut off, both military and (just as importantly) civilians can have decent internet available. An article I read said that their contact (an Ukrainian artilleryman) said that his unit could play CoD mobile using it - it can't be that bad.

I'd be lying if I said yes.
Read up on this - most interesting.
 
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