Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi) |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 |
Memory | 32GB Kingston Fury |
Video Card(s) | Gainward RTX4070ti |
Storage | Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb |
Display(s) | LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC |
Case | Asus Prime AP201 |
Audio Device(s) | On Board |
Power Supply | be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0) |
Software | W10 |
System Name | Main setup |
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Processor | i9 12900K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte z690 Gaming X |
Cooling | Water |
Memory | Kingston 32GB 5200@cl30 |
Video Card(s) | Asus Tuf RTS 4090 |
Storage | Adata SX8200 PRO 1 adn 2 TB, Samsung 960EVO, Crucial MX300 750GB Limited edition |
Display(s) | HP "cheapass" 34" 3440x1440 |
Case | CM H500P Mesh |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G933 |
Power Supply | Corsair RX850i |
Mouse | G502 |
Keyboard | SteelSeries Apex Pro |
Software | W11 |
System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
There are good technical reasons for the slowdown but it would be better explained if you provided some context.
System Name | Purple rain |
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Processor | 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v |
Motherboard | Zee 490 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Noctua D15S |
Memory | 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG |
Case | P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans |
Audio Device(s) | K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex Gold 850W |
Mouse | G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | A LOT |
except a quality nvme will still maintain 1500mb/s write while a poor one will drop to 600mb/s or lower.All SSDs slow down as they fill up due to there being less space available for parallelization of the workload. If your setup is a RAID you might be seeing issues compounded due to this. Still, there's a reason why the best SSD reviewers test drives both freshly secure erased and "full", like they do at AnandTech.
Thank you for your first sentence.All SSDs slow down as they fill up due to there being less space available for parallelization of the workload. If your setup is a RAID you might be seeing issues compounded due to this. Still, there's a reason why the best SSD reviewers test drives both freshly secure erased and "full", like they do at AnandTech.
Thank you for your supplement.except a quality nvme will still maintain 1500mb/s write while a poor one will drop to 600mb/s or lower.
System Name | Computer of Theseus |
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Processor | Intel i9-12900KS: 50x Pcore multi @ 1.18Vcore (target 1.275V -100mv offset) |
Motherboard | EVGA Z690 Classified |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15S, 2xThermalRight TY-143, 4xNoctua NF-A12x25,3xNF-A12x15, 2xAquacomputer Splitty9Active |
Memory | G-Skill Trident Z5 (32GB) DDR5-6000 C36 F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5RK |
Video Card(s) | EVGA Geforce 3060 XC Black Gaming 12GB |
Storage | 1x Samsung 970 Pro 512GB NVMe (OS), 2x Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB (data 1 and 2), ASUS BW-16D1HT |
Display(s) | Dell S3220DGF 32" 2560x1440 165Hz Primary, Dell P2017H 19.5" 1600x900 Secondary, Ergotron LX arms. |
Case | Lian Li O11 Air Mini |
Audio Device(s) | Audiotechnica ATR2100X-USB, El Gato Wave XLR Mic Preamp, ATH M50X Headphones, Behringer 302USB Mixer |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000W 80+ Platinum White |
Mouse | Zowie EC3-C |
Keyboard | Vortex Multix 87 Winter TKL (Gateron G Pro Yellow) |
Software | Win 10 LTSC 21H2 |
System Name | Purple rain |
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Processor | 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v |
Motherboard | Zee 490 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Noctua D15S |
Memory | 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG |
Case | P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans |
Audio Device(s) | K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex Gold 850W |
Mouse | G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | A LOT |
modern ssds rely on caching algorithms first,then on nand quality.
give you an example from my own pc.
I got 860 evo 500gb at 350pln and sx950u 480gb at 280pln.
860 evo was 0.7pln per gb,sx was 0.58pln per gb - close to 20% cheaper.
both 3d tlc,but of vastly different quality.samsung's 3d tlc v-nand on 860 evo turned out better than 3d mlc on 850 pro in the test I did.860 evo continued to write at 300mb/s till it was full,850 Pro "only" managed 230mb/s after it got close to full.Now compare that to sx950u's micron made 3d tlc that saw speeds of 100mb/s and lower in the last 7gb - samsung's tlc turned out more than 3x faster than microns when both drives ran out of caching space.
Now is that adata drive really that bad - no,it's absolutely amazing for the price since it keeps up with a drive that's more expensive until the last 7gb.Even if you counted it as a 473gb drive it still beats 860 evo in value soundly,by 15%.
Some say 660p is trash - it is if you plan to use it like 970 Pro.It's absolutely amazing value if you buy the 2tb version for a home/gaming rig and manage the free space wisely.For most of us read times will matter more than write speed anyway.The 2tb version will still allow for a 24gb cache buffer after it's over 75% full,which is enough for non-professional use.Hell,even the 1tb will still be able to use 12gb of slc cache.
System Name | BorgX79 |
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Processor | i7-3930k 6/12cores@4.4GHz |
Motherboard | Sabertoothx79 |
Cooling | Capitan 360 |
Memory | Muhskin DDR3-1866 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire R480 8GB |
Storage | Chronos SSD |
Display(s) | 3x VW266H |
Case | Ching Mien 600 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek |
Power Supply | Cooler Master 1000W Silent Pro |
Mouse | Logitech G900 |
Keyboard | Rosewill RK-1000 |
Software | Win7x64 |
System Name | Purple rain |
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Processor | 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v |
Motherboard | Zee 490 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Noctua D15S |
Memory | 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG |
Case | P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans |
Audio Device(s) | K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex Gold 850W |
Mouse | G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | A LOT |
I think most gaming pcs use a 500gb ssd at least.some 500gb gets nvme's for the price of 1tb 660p just cause the 660p comes not recommended due to qlc.Hardly anyone mentions that it's still a better buy for most gaming rigs' use scenarios.kinda sounds crazy to say buy a 2tb and most users use 235gb maybe because their drives are so small on most peoples pc. each of my pc's have 24tb minimum wouldnt build a pc with less than 1tb nvme / 6tb spinner. but with that said maybe a 1tb nvme / 1tb 660p doesnt sound as bad as i thought (specially if only use it for read data)
System Name | 4K-gaming |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X up to 5.05GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Custom loop (CPU+GPU, 240 & 120 rads) |
Memory | 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury @ DDR4-3466 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor RX 6700 XT Fighter OC/UV |
Storage | ~4TB SSD + 6TB HDD |
Display(s) | Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS |
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow White |
Audio Device(s) | Asus TUF H3 Wireless |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | It runs Crysis remastered at 4K |
I think that 99% of PC users aren't data hoarders, and a basic SSD & 1TB HDD is more than enough for them.kinda sounds crazy to say buy a 2tb and most users use 235gb maybe because their drives are so small on most peoples pc. each of my pc's have 24tb minimum wouldnt build a pc with less than 1tb nvme / 6tb spinner. but with that said maybe a 1tb nvme / 1tb 660p doesnt sound as bad as i thought (specially if only use it for read data)
System Name | Best AMD Computer |
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Processor | AMD 7900X3D |
Motherboard | Asus X670E E Strix |
Cooling | In Win SR36 |
Memory | GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled) |
Storage | Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500 |
Display(s) | GIGABYTE FV43U |
Case | Corsair 7000D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1 |
Power Supply | Deepcool 1000M |
Mouse | Logitech g7 gaming mouse |
Keyboard | Logitech G510 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin |
Benchmark Scores | Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121 |
I think most gaming pcs use a 500gb ssd at least.some 500gb gets nvme's for the price of 1tb 660p just cause the 660p comes not recommended due to qlc.Hardly anyone mentions that it's still a better buy for most gaming rigs' use scenarios.
System Name | Purple rain |
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Processor | 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v |
Motherboard | Zee 490 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Noctua D15S |
Memory | 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG |
Case | P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans |
Audio Device(s) | K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex Gold 850W |
Mouse | G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | A LOT |
You install something once and then read it a thousand times.this is typical use scenario for home and gaming rigs.no need for Samsung 970 drives.I have 4 1TB 660Ps in RAID 0 and they rock.
maybe you purchased the wrong pcie drive! 128gb vs 512gb should be easy let alone pcie vs sata to tell the diff.You install something once and then read it a thousand times.this is typical use scenario for home and gaming rigs.no need for Samsung 970 drives.
In my gaming pc I honestly can't tell my 128gb Sata SSD from the 512gb pci-e one.
Btw no one mentioned how hilarious the title of the thread is.
they dont copy photos to the pc ever either? No games installed? sure i guess the average person is a boring web browser that doesnt really need a computer for their usage, but anyone that builds their own computer uses far more than 256gb, anyone that is installing a 660p most likely built their pc or purchased a laptop and def needs more than 256gb (cough cough they are buying a 660p for storage)I think that 99% of PC users aren't data hoarders, and a basic SSD & 1TB HDD is more than enough for them.
System Name | Purple rain |
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Processor | 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v |
Motherboard | Zee 490 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Noctua D15S |
Memory | 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG |
Case | P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans |
Audio Device(s) | K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex Gold 850W |
Mouse | G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | A LOT |
no.maybe you purchased the wrong pcie drive! 128gb vs 512gb should be easy let alone pcie vs sata to tell the diff.
dude,do you understand you'd have to have a nvme in your camera/phone too to utilize the speed ?they dont copy photos to the pc ever either? No games installed? sure i guess the average person is a boring web browser that doesnt really need a computer for their usage, but anyone that builds their own computer uses far more than 256gb, anyone that is installing a 660p most likely built their pc or purchased a laptop and def needs more than 256gb (cough cough they are buying a 660p for storage)
you are trolling me, hahaha nvme camera? hahahahaha sigh,no.
not in read times.
show me a nvme drive that beats a sata ssd in game/application load times by +20% consistently.you can't,they're fractions of seconds apart.
dude,do you understand you'd have to have a nvme in your camera/phone too to utilize the speed ?
Device | Seq write [4MB] | Seq read [4MB] | Random write [4KB] | Random read [4KB] |
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Galaxy S10 Plus 1TB | 189.0 | 440.7 | 4.7 | 11.9 |
Huawei P30 Pro | 166.9 | 546.9 | 36.3 | 19.32 |
OnePlus 6T | 138.0 | 655.7 | 5.32 | 13.9 |
Typical PC SSD | 399.8 | 508.5 | 54.2 | 37.9 |
System Name | Purple rain |
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Processor | 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v |
Motherboard | Zee 490 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Noctua D15S |
Memory | 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG |
Case | P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans |
Audio Device(s) | K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex Gold 850W |
Mouse | G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | A LOT |
well does that look like a definition of a home/gaming rig to you ? am I the one trolling here ?I guess if you do one task at a time and cant tell the diff between 20% then you are correct, but some of us have multiple things going at once, extracting, encoding, copying, reading, encrypting, the list adds up and i certainly can tell the diff.
System Name | System2 Blacknet , System1 Blacknet2 |
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Processor | System2 Threadripper 1920x, System1 2699 v3 |
Motherboard | System2 Asrock Fatality x399 Professional Gaming, System1 Asus X99-A |
Cooling | System2 Noctua NH-U14 TR4-SP3 Dual 140mm fans, System1 AIO |
Memory | System2 64GBS DDR4 3000, System1 32gbs DDR4 2400 |
Video Card(s) | System2 GTX 980Ti System1 GTX 970 |
Storage | System2 4x SSDs + NVme= 2.250TB 2xStorage Drives=8TB System1 3x SSDs=2TB |
Display(s) | 2x 24" 1080 displays |
Case | System2 Some Nzxt case with soundproofing... |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar U7 MKII |
Power Supply | System2 EVGA 750 Watt, System1 XFX XTR 750 Watt |
Mouse | Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum |
Keyboard | Ducky |
Software | Manjaro, Windows 10, Kubuntu 23.10 |
Benchmark Scores | It's linux baby! |
So we are talking about gamers and they dont use more than 256gb? what is that 2 games installed? mental!well does that look like a definition of a home/gaming rig to you ? am I the one trolling here ?
you said,quote,"copy photos to the pc ",now you're realizing you said something stupid so you're looking up phone transfers and voila,they're in sata ssd ballpark in sequential reading.
no one needs a nvme drive in a gaming rig,they might want and buy one like I did,but they don't need one.
you don't know 128gb drives exist ?
and what is this chart ? sata ssd can write 4mb files a lot faster than 400mb/s.530mb/s for my drives.
dude,be serious or get outta here.
System Name | natr0n-PC |
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Processor | Ryzen 5950x/5600x |
Motherboard | B450 AORUS M |
Cooling | EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action |
Memory | Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) |
Video Card(s) | EVGA 3070ti FTW |
Storage | Various |
Display(s) | PIXIO IPS 240Hz 1080P |
Case | Thermaltake Level 20 VT |
Audio Device(s) | LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony |
Power Supply | Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W |
Software | XP/7/8.1/10 |
Benchmark Scores | http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6 |
System Name | Purple rain |
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Processor | 10.5 thousand 4.2G 1.1v |
Motherboard | Zee 490 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Noctua D15S |
Memory | 16GB 4133 CL16-16-16-31 Viper Steel |
Video Card(s) | RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | SU900 128,8200Pro 1TB,850 Pro 512+256+256,860 Evo 500,XPG950 480, Skyhawk 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer XB241YU+Dell S2716DG |
Case | P600S Silent w. Alpenfohn wing boost 3 ARGBT+ fans |
Audio Device(s) | K612 Pro w. FiiO E10k DAC,W830BT wireless |
Power Supply | Superflower Leadex Gold 850W |
Mouse | G903 lightspeed+powerplay,G403 wireless + Steelseries DeX + Roccat rest |
Keyboard | HyperX Alloy SilverSpeed (w.HyperX wrist rest),Razer Deathstalker |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | A LOT |
are you mentally impaired ? I never said anything about 256gb. reported for baiting cause referring to me as a troll is trolling.you're confusing posters and facts.So we are talking about gamers and they dont use more than 256gb? what is that 2 games installed? mental!
like i said copying photos are referring to using more than 256gb but i already said that.. (double trolled me)) (remember you said average person doesnt use more than 256gb), funny you didnt mention your magical 128gb ssd that is as fast as a nvme drive! (i really didnt think samsung made 128gb drives but i guess they do and im 100% sure the more storage the faster they go with every drive) windows uses how much of your 128gb then install a game then 90% full it works so well! must be the samsung 850 pro 128gb?
the photo says 50% of all users use 235gb or less.. maybe they forgot their own post? /shrug the bigger the drive the faster it goes, as it reaches capacity it slows dramatically.modern ssds rely on caching algorithms first,then on nand quality.
give you an example from my own pc.
I got 860 evo 500gb at 350pln and sx950u 480gb at 280pln.
860 evo was 0.7pln per gb,sx was 0.58pln per gb - close to 20% cheaper.
both 3d tlc,but of vastly different quality.samsung's 3d tlc v-nand on 860 evo turned out better than 3d mlc on 850 pro in the test I did.860 evo continued to write at 300mb/s till it was full,850 Pro "only" managed 230mb/s after it got close to full.Now compare that to sx950u's micron made 3d tlc that saw speeds of 100mb/s and lower in the last 7gb - samsung's tlc turned out more than 3x faster than microns when both drives ran out of caching space.
Now is that adata drive really that bad - no,it's absolutely amazing for the price since it keeps up with a drive that's more expensive until the last 7gb.Even if you counted it as a 473gb drive it still beats 860 evo in value soundly,by 15%.
Some say 660p is trash - it is if you plan to use it like 970 Pro.It's absolutely amazing value if you buy the 2tb version for a home/gaming rig and manage the free space wisely.For most of us read times will matter more than write speed anyway.The 2tb version will still allow for a 24gb cache buffer after it's over 75% full,which is enough for non-professional use.Hell,even the 1tb will still be able to use 12gb of slc cache.