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the shees were nuts, even when i had the right counter, it didnt matter - he just knew how to do massive damage with them, and he reinforced them quicker than i could reinforce stalkers (and he'd send in just one lone viking and scan to take out my observers)
Yeah that, he wiped out 20 of my probes in mere seconds. I think he was microing each one individually. His average APM was something like 189 for the match.
 
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I'm silver in 4v4 now(been bouncing around between 15 and 30) and I think next season could make gold, but I doubt I'll get higher, I can do some efficient builds but can't compete w/ diamond micro-ing
 
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Anyone up for some 1v1s on NA? Kind of bored atm since RO2 is completely unplayable at this time.
 

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I'm silver in 4v4 now(been bouncing around between 15 and 30) and I think next season could make gold, but I doubt I'll get higher, I can do some efficient builds but can't compete w/ diamond micro-ing
you'll get there. me and JC made it to diamond, and we started off as the worst of the worst bronzies.
 

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Ugh, I just played the best match that I have probably ever played and lost because my teammate was a moron. Going against two zergs, me and my teammate were both terrran. My plan was to go MMM tank.

Started out pretty basic, two racks into factory. They rush in with a combined 58 zerglings, then back off, which gives me time to pump out some hellions to deal with the lings. At this point, we are 6 minutes in, I have three racks, factory, two orbital commands, 18 marines, 2 rauders, two siege tanks, and 6 hellions. My teammate had 2 rauders, 7 marines and a ghost.....

They baneling bust him, I save the day. They counter roach/hydra/infestor/muta, I save the day three more times. I used the MMM tank to perfection, completely wipe out both of their armies save for two energyless infestors and 17 mutas. Ask where his army is, he has none, this is 20 minutes in and he has a grand total of 12 marines, 6 rauders, and a ghost..... That is the most army he has had all game......

They finally win with a crap ton of ultralisks and banelings. It was the perfect match for me, I did everything right, averaged out 80 APM over a 30 minute game with my APM spiking at 340 in most battles, I controlled three expos, had a shit ton of the proper units, killed over 300 of their units and the best my teammate could muster was 12 marines, 6 raduers and a ghost.

I had that game won too, if he would have just had 30 marines at 20 minutes, we would have won the damned thing. Turns out he was silver with 400 wins. That is more wins than I have FFS!
 
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Ugh, I just played the best match that I have probably ever played and lost because my teammate was a moron. Going against two zergs, me and my teammate were both terrran. My plan was to go MMM tank.

Started out pretty basic, two racks into factory. They rush in with a combined 58 zerglings, then back off, which gives me time to pump out some hellions to deal with the lings. At this point, we are 6 minutes in, I have three racks, factory, two orbital commands, 18 marines, 2 rauders, two siege tanks, and 6 hellions. My teammate had 2 rauders, 7 marines and a ghost.....

They baneling bust him, I save the day. They counter roach/hydra/infestor/muta, I save the day three more times. I used the MMM tank to perfection, completely wipe out both of their armies save for two energyless infestors and 17 mutas. Ask where his army is, he has none, this is 20 minutes in and he has a grand total of 12 marines, 6 rauders, and a ghost..... That is the most army he has had all game......

They finally win with a crap ton of ultralisks and banelings. It was the perfect match for me, I did everything right, averaged out 80 APM over a 30 minute game with my APM spiking at 340 in most battles, I controlled three expos, had a shit ton of the proper units, killed over 300 of their units and the best my teammate could muster was 12 marines, 6 raduers and a ghost.

I had that game won too, if he would have just had 30 marines at 20 minutes, we would have won the damned thing. Turns out he was silver with 400 wins. That is more wins than I have FFS!

why in the world did he go ghost against zerg?
 

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why in the world did he go ghost against zerg?
Because ghosts are awesome! You can snipe banelings, mutas, infestors, and everything useful zerg has. Also, they nuke! MMMG vs Zergs got me to Masters, but I need tanks now vs Z. I still build them, but unless Zerg teches to T3 I wouldn't build them in huge quantities.
 
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You know I'm actually frustrated I ever bought this game. I've spent hundreds of hours pkaying and watching SC and now I don't play nearly all that much anymore. I miss the other friends I played with(not you guys) and don't see them ever online.
On the other hand I did just watch Funday Monday last night with Day9 and I it totally made up for everything.
 
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Because ghosts are awesome! You can snipe banelings, mutas, infestors, and everything useful zerg has. Also, they nuke! MMMG vs Zergs got me to Masters, but I need tanks now vs Z. I still build them, but unless Zerg teches to T3 I wouldn't build them in huge quantities.
I'm a zerg player, but I've never seen ghosts used correctly against me. Ghosts v toss is a must tho with that emp
 

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I'm a zerg player, but I've never seen ghosts used correctly against me. Ghosts v toss is a must tho with that emp
Its a very obscure and demanding strategy, and you need good micro to execute it without dying like a noob. Play more games and you will eventually meet them :)
 

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the only use ghosts have against zerg is nuking mineral lines. zergs dont have the best stealth detection.


ghosts are sheer madness against protoss however, being able to take the shields off an entire army can really swing things in your favour.
 
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Ghosts are extremely useful against Brood Lords (snipe).
 

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Ghosts are extremely useful against Brood Lords (snipe).
really? i just hammer them with vikings.


vikings have such a long range you can effectively snipe, and if you keep your marines behind them, you can counter any corruptors.
 

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Ghosts are extremely useful against Brood Lords (snipe).
really? i just hammer them with vikings.


vikings have such a long range you can effectively snipe, and if you keep your marines behind them, you can counter any corruptors.
Yeah, ghost vs brood lord is an awesome combo, ghosts vs infestors is also great.
 

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i guess i just dont know how to micro them very well. i should practice against an AI.
 
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Just won my 1st game in patch 1.4

The hellion change is big. It gave the zerg enough time to protect his drones. Which I guess is good for him. He opted to go ultra/ling/bling/broods vs my rine/tank/medivak

Not sure how much of a difference it would of made for him if he had infestors.
 

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That decreased build time on ultras is going to be a bitch to deal with. Allows you to get ultras out too quick IMO.
 
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That decreased build time on ultras is going to be a bitch to deal with. Allows you to get ultras out too quick IMO.
Rather deal with ultras than infestors.
 

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Rather deal with ultras than infestors.
Agreed. Infestors are the single most overpowered unit in the game. Fungal shouldn't do so much damage. If you want to leave the damage in place, then it shouldn't be able to kill the unit, like the defiler couldn't kill, it could take you down to 1HP, but not completely kill you.
 
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The worse part is you constantly need to have vision of his infestors when you throw ghosts into the mix. Because if he NP your ghosts, he can emp your units.
 

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Fungals nerfed! :D

If my opponent goes infestors I will almost always start viking production, sniping stray overlords and potential insurance vs broodlords are good.
 

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i played a 1v1 against a hard AI earlier to play with ghosts, and found it rather easy. either hard AI's are just shit compared to me, or ghosts are awesome in massed up groups.
 

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i played a 1v1 against a hard AI earlier to play with ghosts, and found it rather easy. either hard AI's are just shit compared to me, or ghosts are awesome in massed up groups.
Both, try very hard instead.