@tatty- I've killed a Striker II board, and have had a gigabyte and 780i both DOA. I am just glad the Max is still running... A bad OC that took weeks to clear its cmos... lol @POS- I didn't kill anything! lol.. dead board and a bad oc on the max... Everything up and running.. just have to find my 65bit key again... windows keeps telling me I need to reactivate it.. lol @Wile E- You and Damulta are crazy! I've killed 3 of the 4 video cards I've owned... well I owned 5... but the 8400 is a back-up... @Laurijan- That is a sweet Pi score. Glad to see you finally got what you knew you could get!