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Swiftech Launches the Apogee Drive II CPU Water-Block with Integrated Pump

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Fair enough. Comparing Swiftech with Koolance is like comparing an Audi with a Yugo, but to each his own.



Considering the 35X is the most powerful mainstream consumer grade pump you can buy - you would have to go with an exorbitantly expensive Eheim or comparable to get better performance - you can put as many rads and blocks with it as you wish. I have 600mm worth of rad with three blocks on mine with tons of power to boot.
Yes, I agree, I have two Laing DDC500 on parallel and the head pressure they yield is scary.

Anyway not to be a Koolance fanboy, years ago I would never touch any of their products but today they are almost comparable to Swiftech, their quality has really step up.
 

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Anyway not to be a Koolance fanboy, years ago I would never touch any of their products but today they are almost comparable to Swiftech, their quality has really step up.
I agree.


However, both this block/pump combo, and the ApogeeHD block and rad set, are soemthing else entirely fro mwhat koolance offers IMHO. You very nearly get easy high-end water setups, that are nearly as easy to assemble as the AIO coolers from Corsair, Antec, and the like, while offering functionality no other offers.

I posted about this unit before the news item hit...I've been paying close attention to Swifttech as of late, ebcuase they sure do have some good stuff this year!(Nevermind there's not much else new when it comes to watercooling right now:laugh:).
 
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Yeah, the only new thing about watercooling that has touched us lately is the introduction of Monsoon free center compression fittings and they are damn sexy, thanks again Dave for pointing me to em.

And this pump+highend block combo is a very awesome and welcome piece to the watercooling scene, do you imagine how this will integrate into microATX builds?
People didn't know where to put the res+pump combo because there isn't so much space in those cases, now you can get a clean small build with this.
 

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do you imagine how this will integrate into microATX builds?
;) Now you're thinking. I've kinda been on the ball with watercooling stuff as of late...been a whiel since I bothered with anything more than Corsair AIO units, and if I'm gonna invest the kid of $$$ that a proper setup involves, I want to make sure to be getting the right kit.
 

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Fair enough. Comparing Swiftech with Koolance is like comparing an Audi with a Yugo, but to each his own.



Considering the 35X is the most powerful mainstream consumer grade pump you can buy - you would have to go with an exorbitantly expensive Eheim or comparable to get better performance - you can put as many rads and blocks with it as you wish. I have 600mm worth of rad with three blocks on mine with tons of power to boot.
Not anymore. Koolance runs with the big dogs now. Just look at reviews for their full coverage GPU blocks, CPU360, and DDC/MCP accessories.
 
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Not anymore. Koolance runs with the big dogs now. Just look at reviews for their full coverage GPU blocks, CPU360, and DDC/MCP accessories.
Point well taken. I don't think, however, that he was referring to any of their revamped parts. For the $200 he mentioned, I pictured the old Koolance top mounted aluminum rad/shroud with integral crappy pump and crappy block, hence my comment.

In case you all were planning on hanging me out the window by my feet:
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Wile E, radrok & Dave: Ok.
 

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Point well taken. I don't think, however, that he was referring to any of their revamped parts. For the $200 he mentioned, I pictured the old Koolance top mounted aluminum rad/shroud with integral crappy pump and crappy block, hence my comment.

In case you all were planning on hanging me out the window by my feet:
lol

And yeah, their old parts were definitely shit.
 

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the problem it is with the block pomp, more precise with that 2 connectors in form of letter J
 
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I'm a noob in water cooling, so the only other part that I will need for this to run is a radiator? And I'll need to pay for it separately? Also, what's the benefit of having the pump on the block vs. the radiator?
 

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function69 it is simple the space that pomp can take in your case (or outside). the water pressure at sort distance of the pomp is bigger. the pressure will decrees in relation with the length and diameter of the water circuit.

the difference is not a big one at this little pomp.

the bad parts:

-the pomp generate vibrations
-the pomp can get hot
-the pomp connectors are tricky

in this system the connectors of the waterblock ar in L shape. this is the real problem because the connectors down get directly attached to the watterblock. (there are no filet). if you see the pictures there are a sets of screws that kepp the connectors pressed to the waterblock. this is not a good ideea.
 
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I'm a noob in water cooling, so the only other part that I will need for this to run is a radiator? And I'll need to pay for it separately? Also, what's the benefit of having the pump on the block vs. the radiator?
This combines two parts of a loop, the cpu block and pump. You'd still need a radiator, tubing, and either a res or T-line, either of which are fine.

function69 in this system the connectors of the waterblock ar in L shape. this is the real problem because the connectors down get directly attached to the watterblock. (there are no filet). if you see the pictures there are a sets of screws that kepp the connectors pressed to the waterblock. this is not a good ideea.
All quality blocks are held together with screws and bolts, its the low quality ones you can't take apart.
 

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sinzia

see the screws?http://www.swiftech.org/images/products/APD2/ADJUSTABLE.jpg



this is the big problem, that mode keep the connector attached to the waterblock is the problem.

anyone that use water cooling in pc, dont want to stay with an eye on the pomp to see if leaks or not
Its a dual position fitting that's held in with screws. I don't see much of an issue with that, considering EK uses something quite similar for the FC-Bridge SLi/Crossfire manifold.

This is one situation where the user needs to have a bit of common sense and all should be ok.
 
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Now to have one on the cpu and mod one to the gpu connect them and you got a sweet wc loop.
 
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Now to have one on the cpu and mod one to the gpu connect them and you got a sweet wc loop.
That's a 35x pump on that, it's already good enough to push several GPU blocks, but it would be pretty cool to see them in a "boost pump" kind of setup.
 
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Then you can haves them both at low rpms. To make it a quite wc loop.
 
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Then you can haves them both at low rpms. To make it a quite wc loop.
Man I think you don't realize how much powerful is the 35x :D