TechpowerUp's Spring 2017 WCG Challenge (3/22 thru 3/30)- crunch/fold with TPU and WIN!!!

[ChristTheGreat]

just reinstalled BOINC to crunch, been a long time!

 

[Sasqui]

The WCG only utilizes cpu computation currently so nothing gpu related will be of assistance unfortunately. Iirc, the Olde core 2 cpus run fine but produce fairly lower PPD. Maybe wait for someone who has more experience with those CPUs to chime in. The g3258 can be oc'd, right? Should make a decent cruncher.

I noticed in WCG settings there is an option to use the GPU. Does it simply not do anything / is related to outated drivers/API?

 

[Antykain]

It's almost that time! Would love to get the 4x 6166 HE's up and going for the challenge, but still need to grab a PSU to power the beast. I'll have one eventually, just not in time for the Spring 2017 Challenge unfortunately.

Either way, I still have my 4790K and FX-8350 crunchin for the event.

 

[stinger608]

I noticed in WCG settings there is an option to use the GPU. Does it simply not do anything / is related to outated drivers/API?

I think it's there for possible future GPU supported projects. I'm pretty sure it's up to the developer of the project to allow GPU crunching.

To be honest, I don't understand why all projects doesn't support GPU crunching.

 

[Norton]

is it even worth using my g3258 or can you use gpu acceleration? i have access to several core 2 quad rigs would they work better?, if i can use gpu acceleration should i turn my oc off?

We have a Team member here using a Phenom II X2 555 for only 14 hrs/day at 60% load and she gets about 600 ppd. You should get 2-2.5x that with your Pentium, which is pretty good, so yes it is definitely worth it to have it crunch

Ok so basically my WUs wont validate? I will start it up once I am home and have a look then

If they are pending validation then you're ok. You have to wait for other folks to finish the same work unit before you get credit, which may take a few days.

A note on overclocking/instability/errors on work units- There were issues in the past with highly overclocked Phenom II's and Bulldozer chips iirc. These days I rarely see errors with work units nor hear to many complaints about failed work units so I'm thinking a lot of that has been worked out. That said, if you start hitting temperature issues while at full load you WILL have stability problems!

 

[Sasqui]

To be honest, I don't understand why all projects doesn't support GPU crunching.

If you're right about the individual developers writing the code for projects, that's probably the answer there. I can't pretend to know what APIs are used by Folding, particularly when it comes down to two players... AMD and NVidia.

 

[Norton]

Less 11 hours to challenge start! Get Ready for GO time!

At work atm so I will leave it up to you to post the inspiration gif's and meme's

 

[manofthem]

If you're right about the individual developers writing the code for projects, that's probably the answer there. I can't pretend to know what APIs are used by Folding, particularly when it comes down to two players... AMD and NVidia.

It does depend upon the project. The only project to have gpu-supported wu's was HCC which ended quite a while ago, I think back in May 2013.

As @stinger608 said, I wish more projects would utilize the gpus and bring back the days of 300k, 400k, 500k ppd, and maybe beyond that with the way gpus have increased in perfoemance (crazy to think @[Ion] is way above that on cpu alone )

 

[Sasqui]

bring back the days of 300k, 400k, 500k ppd

Wow... an overclocked 12 thread CPU only hits like 4-5k tops, right?

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Wow... an overclocked 12 thread CPU only hits like 4-5k tops, right?

No, a lot more than that! Dedicated Intel systems should be around 1,000 PPD per thread.

 

[Sasqui]

No, a lot more than that! Dedicated Intel systems should be around 1,000 PPD per thread.

4-5k = 4,000 to 5,000 PPD. How is that greater than 1,000 PPD?

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Per thread. A 12 threaded system should be doing 10-14K PPD
Look at the numbers for my 4.4GHz 2600K that's running on Linux: http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=host&proj=bwcg&hostid=3314029

 

[Papahyooie]

Per thread. A 12 threaded system should be doing 10-14K PPD
Look at the numbers for my 4.4GHz 2600K that's running on Linux: http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=host&proj=bwcg&hostid=3314029

How do you see single machine stats like that? I've been looking for a way to see that.

 

[Mindweaver]

Ok I'm turning up the heat! I just added my 5820k @4.5Ghz... It's time to kick the tires and light the fires!

 

[thebluebumblebee]

How do you see single machine stats like that? I've been looking for a way to see that.

There are two ways, sorta. If you go to the My Contribution page at WCG and select Device Statistics, it will show you your stats for your systems, in WCG points (BOINC x 7). If you want to see those on FDC, you have to check the little box for Show Hosts towards the bottom of the My Profile page under Settings at WCG. It will take some time for that information to populate FDC. To see that info on FDC, click on a user. If the user does not have that box checked, there will be a heading for hosts, but nothing under it. If you click on someone who does have Show Hosts checked, you will see a list of all of the hosts that contributor has ever used. You can then click on an individual system as I linked to above. For the fun of it, check out @[Ion]'s by clicking on Aperture_Science_Innovators.

 

[Papahyooie]

There are two ways, sorta. If you go to the My Contribution page at WCG and select Device Statistics, it will show you your stats for your systems, in WCG points (BOINC x 7). If you want to see those on FDC, you have to check the little box for Show Hosts towards the bottom of the My Profile page under Settings at WCG. It will take some time for that information to populate FDC. To see that info on FDC, click on a user. If the user does not have that box checked, there will be a heading for hosts, but nothing under it. If you click on someone who does have Show Hosts checked, you will see a list of all of the hosts that contributor has ever used. You can then click on an individual system as I linked to above. For the fun of it, check out @[Ion]'s by clicking on Aperture_Science_Innovators.

Ok cool. I'll try that. I apparently can't log in at the moment, because the forum is down. But I'll try it later. Thanks!

 

[Bow]

I am going to try an add a couple more machines here at work.

 

[Doc41]

In for the challenge but don't count me for the prizes

firing up an i5-750 and a C2Q 9550 full time for the challenge duration...my 4790k will participate whenever i'm asleep or afk

 

[Sasqui]

Per thread. A 12 threaded system should be doing 10-14K PPD
Look at the numbers for my 4.4GHz 2600K that's running on Linux: http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=host&proj=bwcg&hostid=3314029

I think you're talk apples and I'm talking cider. The "Credit" you see in my sig (the cider I'm talking about) is something on the order of 1/7 of the PPD (the apples) you're referring to.

i.e. - I think we're saying the same thing, just using different ways to articulate it.

Edit... yep!

There are two ways, sorta. If you go to the My Contribution page at WCG and select Device Statistics, it will show you your stats for your systems, in WCG points (BOINC x 7).

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I think we're saying the same thing, just using different ways to articulate it.

Dedicated Intel systems should be around 1,000 PPD per thread.

Those are BOINC points. My system that I linked to above does upwards of 70K WCG PPD

 

[Papahyooie]

For the fun of it, check out @[Ion]'s by clicking on Aperture_Science_Innovators.

Hoooooly cow.... O.O One of his machines does more PPD than my whole farm does for a month... I want one!

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=host&proj=bwcg&hostid=3812853

 

[Sasqui]

Hoooooly cow.... O.O One of his machines does more PPD than my whole farm does for a month... I want one!

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=host&proj=bwcg&hostid=3812853

"Number of CPU's: 88"

 

[Papahyooie]

"Number of CPU's: 88"

Yuuuup... Dual 22 core/44 thread Xeons... That's like the stuff of my dreams lol. Where do people even get these things? And what do they do for a living, because I want to work with them lol. That's two $7k chips, just the chips by themselves...

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I want one!

He has two! TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

 

[Sasqui]

He has two! TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

Ack! Either has a lot of $ and toys... or works for IT in a rather large (Mega) environment.