Techspot: Nvidia asks retailers to limit sales to miners

[Eric3988]

Ideally, I think the GPU manufacturers should pump out tons of mining cards to increase the supply. Cut whatever corners they can to produce them as cheap and plentiful as possible. I know the mid to high end cards are highly valued but would the miners gravitate towards cards that are more energy efficient and plentiful instead of the former? Manufacturers are afraid of having unsold inventory, I understand that but now that it appears that mining is here to stay, why not mass produce cheap and efficient mining cards?

 

[Devon68]

Ideally, I think the GPU manufacturers should pump out tons of mining cards to increase the supply

While that would be great. Mining cards dont have any display output's so their re-sell value would be low.

 

[Arjai]

Mining is a lot more complex than a store app now. My advice is not to get into it if you don't have a fascination with the tech and/or desire to get a deep understanding of how crypto works.

I am in no way interested, nor have I any desires for crypto currency. I was merely presenting an ironic, see laughing emoticon, post. Perhaps, even, a moronic post!

As far as GPU's are concerned, even if there was a steady supply of them, what are the chances that any of them would drop below $500? Probably zero chance! That is what mining is doing, raising the prices that the retailer's can charge.

MSI, ASUS, etc. do not pay anything close to 500 dollars a board. The cheap plastic fans are a dime-a-dozen, despite the fancy fins and air pressure gobbeldy gook! GPU's are simply a $150 box of parts plus labor. But because somebody makes pretend money, instead of curing cancer, everybody wants 25 of them! So, retailer says, 'Gee, these things are hot!' 'I bet we could get a THOOOUSAND Dollars for one!'

And there we are, and here I am. I cannot justify spending $1000 on a GPU.

I won't. So, I play my indie games, when I can, and daydream about the day I will be able to sit back and play a game on my 39 inch Smart TV using a real GPU that didn't cost me a $1000!!

 

[R-T-B]

I am in no way interested, nor have I any desires for crypto currency.

Wasn't replying to you.

 

[GreiverBlade]

to me ... miner should be limited to "dedicated mining card" only ... (at whatever price the AIB/manufacturer deem correct) and "normal" GPU should have a mining limitation implemented (hard or soft) and well ... a price akin to the original (albeit fantasical) MSRP (well ... 379$ a 1070? even before the mining craze it was more like 560$ for me )

they don't play guitar on the MTV... they shouldn't be having "money for nothing" (not mentioning chicks for free, too ...) no pun inten.... eh? ... whatever...

 

[Devon68]

 

[lexluthermiester]

That works until you find friends and family, which every miner has.

EDIT: And buying from multiple places, yeah. That too.

True, but would introduce and element of inconvenience and hassle. Also if you limit the number of transactions per credit card per street address, this means they have to go get cash to give to everyone. I used to work retail, that has and still does work.

Not really. Pascal has been out for some time and it still hasn't been cracked. Not enough people care about modding GPU bios I guess...

That would be incorrect. Pascal FW's can be modded. It's just a pain to do so and not really needed because you can set nearly everything you'd want to through software.

What they really need to do is make mining focused cards that have no video outputs and have a slightly better price-point. Then introduce a function in the video drivers that limit or refuse to run mining code, forcing miners to use actual mining focused cards. This will allow the prices to stabilize and make gobb's of money on both sides of the equation.

 

[R-T-B]

True, but would introduce and element of inconvenience and hassle. Also if you limit the number of transactions per credit card per street address, this means they have to go get cash to give to everyone. I used to work retail, that has and still does work.

True, it can work if you go draconian enough. I just don't see this lukewarm gesture getting retailers to crack down enough, I guess.

Still better than nothing I suppose.

 

[remixedcat]

wow socialism at play here.... limiting gpu sales... people should do what they want with thier hardware. this is a communist totalitarian move. I know supply is rough but they need to make more products. if they feel it's too expensive, innovate at making a cheaper process or take advantage of Trump's tax cuts and locate all facilities here in the usa.

 

[R-T-B]

or take advantage of Trump's tax cuts and locate all facilities here in the usa.

We want prices to go down, not up. Even Foxconn looked at the USA vs Asia under Trump, and basically laughed in our face.

Also, when a private company limits you, that's not communism like, at all.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Even Foxconn looked at the USA vs Asia under Trump, and basically laughed in our face.

It still might happen.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Why dont they just make more of the fucking things...............i would.

 

[R-T-B]

It still might happen.

Newer news than the last one I read, interesting thanks.

Why dont they just make more of the fucking things...............i would.

MAKE MOAR GPUS?

 

[R0H1T]

There's one other way to make the GPU limit (2 or whatever) per user work, for instance Amazon India limits products per user/address/CC in certain cases, like lightning deals. Of course this implies that retailers are willing to forego their big fat margins, but someone like newegg would never do that!

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Why dont they just make more of the fucking things...............i would.

Because crypto could crash at any moment meaning they'd be stuck with a lot of inventory they can't move. Also, because NVIDIA wants to clear inventory to make way for the GTX 2### series anyway while still satisfying increasingly disgruntled gamers that are the core of their business.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Call me cynical but presumably GTX 2### will be even more mining efficient.

And sold as such.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Of course. Technology marches forward. But let's be honest, if this keeps up, miners will buyout any GTX 1### inventory too so it's not like anyone is getting stuck with cards now.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

GTX 970 second hand ebay UK a year ago was 130 quid, the cheapest one today is 175.

Mental.

 

[R-T-B]

but someone like newegg would never do that!

Newegg implemented this just recently (2 card limit), before the recent craze actually. I praised them for it in my crypto order on my article I wrote about mining.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I see a increased interest in consoles, can buy 4 consoles for the price of one Vega 64 from newegg.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

That's Newegg Marketplace though. Retailers, when they get inventory, usually sell around MSRP. Problem is, they're usually out of inventory. There's really no way to tell if people are even buying the cards at 150%+ inflated prices.

 

[Filip Georgievski]

Why limit sales?
Nvidia made mining cards for a reason, so people wont buy regular cards to mine, but that strategy failed.

Now why not release separate drivers for mining cards, and hard code regular drivers to recognise mining software and degrade performance to mining software like 90% so that people will have to buy mining card so that they can mine, and not buy regular cards?

Same for AMD. But i dont think AMD will be too happy about that since their sales are basicly to miners and very few to gamers.

 

[R0H1T]

Newegg implemented this just recently (2 card limit), before the recent craze actually. I praised them for it in my crypto order on my article I wrote about mining.

Are they enforcing it though, because in case of Amazon they can permanently ban you & a given address or set of addresses, should you try & circumvent their limits.

 

[R-T-B]

Are they enforcing it though, because in case of Amazon they can permanently ban you & a given address or set of addresses, should you try & circumvent their limits.

Well, I mean I didn't try to get around it for my article, but you literally can't add more than 2 GPUs to your cart of same type (at least from newegg direct).

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

I think this is a marketing move