The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

boise49ers · Apr 26, 2011

Corduroy_Jr said:
boise i was not trying to offended u in any way just stating facts, aim for 3.6ghz tops just don't stress test the cpu and u should be find running games etc

OK , I don't do anything more then gaming and my system runs about 5 or 6 hours a day. I wasn't offended just frustrated. It has happened with so many things I have purchased that I get overwhelmed with bad news after awhile. Thanks ! I see some heat sinks aren't those the phases. Does it look like it has any extra protection ? Again I'm lost on VRM ? What is it and what do I touch to see if it is heating up to melt down ? Thanks for your Patients fella's !

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

boise49ers said:
Well I did pay $80 as opposed to the $50 on my last board.
So do you think I could push it to say 3.7 maybe ? Give the
finger test. I used to do that with girl friends all the time

i paid 40€ for my first board, 70€ my second... and 110€ for my third... and only the third, was the only board that i would remark as "good" and "worth the price"

if you ghetto cool the PWM with copper ramsinks and a very strong fan from the top,and from behind the cpu retention plate, you could get away with it... but that doesnt mean, that the board will live long with it

finger testing is not bad... but i prefer the real... ahem.. "Test"

EDIT:
the areas you need to look for are marked in this pic:

Corduroy_Jr · Apr 26, 2011

boise49ers said:
OK , I don't do anything more then gaming and my system runs about 5 or 6 hours a day. I wasn't offended just frustrated. It has happened with so many things I have purchased that I get overwhelmed with bad news after awhile. Thanks ! I see some heat sinks aren't those the phases. Does it look like it has any extra protection ? Again I'm lost on VRM ? What is it and what do I touch to see if it is heating up to melt down ? Thanks for your Patients fella's !
http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3635/3601.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/110425/C.../img.techpowerup.org/110425/Capture008227.jpg

4 chokes or ferrits to power the cpu and vrms, 1 for the mem controller, that's why its a 4+1 power design motherboard

Corduroy_Jr · Apr 26, 2011

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Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

Corduroy_Jr said:
http://img.techpowerup.org/110425/C.../img.techpowerup.org/110425/Capture008227.jpg

4 chokes or ferrits to power the cpu and vrms, 1 for the mem controller, that's why its a 4+1 power design motherboard

a choke is a noise filter... the parts that provide the power on the board, are the VRMs, which are also called MOSFETs

Chokes

and, for your information... the Mosfets to the bottom which you marked as "memory controller" are indeed for the Southbridge

The Memory Phase on this board is probably the 2 mosfets and the chokes to the right side of the VRM

Corduroy_Jr · Apr 26, 2011

sorry my bad welll said man, but yeah trust me bosie i had more then a hand full of 4+1 boards evne a few gigabyte ones then got smoking hot while stress testing a qaud core phenom II 920, to a 940 even my 955 quad

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

Corduroy_Jr said:
sorry my bad welll said man, but yeah trust me bosie i had more then a hand full of 4+1 boards evne a few gigabyte ones then got smoking hot while stress testing a qaud core phenom II 920, to a 940 even my 955 quad

i guess i can sign that,me myself even blew a cap off my old trusty biostar 790gx a2+, when trying for the 3.8 ghz on a 955

Corduroy_Jr · Apr 26, 2011

wow crazy like pushing things to the limit nice job, so who wants to get into a game of some bc2 action hehe

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

Corduroy_Jr said:
wow crazy like pushing things to the limit nice job, so who wants to get into a game of some bc2 action hehe

sorry,dont own it... :eek:

i would love to invite you to a round of MWLL tho

TheMailMan78 · Apr 26, 2011

I dont think him setting his board to 1.4 is going to fry any MOSFET.

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
I dont think him setting his board to 1.4 is going to fry any MOSFET.

So, then you will buy him a new board if something happens? Great!

Do as this Guy says, he will cover all your damages, Boise! :laugh:

TheMailMan78 · Apr 26, 2011

Velvet Wafer said:
So, then you will buy him a new board if something happens? Great!
Do as this Guy says, he will cover all your damages, Boise!

No but 1.4 vs 1.35 is a .5 jump. With turbo on his board will jump to 1.47. If he is OC then he has turbo off. In theory hes putting less stress on this board at 1.4v constant then leaving it at stock running single threaded applications which will make it jump to 1.47.

So the MOSFET can handle 1.47v but not 1.4?

But......in all honesty he only games on this thing. I don't see a reason to even OC a 1090T for that.

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
No but 1.4 vs 1.35 is a .5 jump. With turbo on his board will jump to 1.47. If he is OC then he has turbo off. In theroy hes putting less stress on this board at 1.4v constant then leaving it at stock running single threaded applications.

So the MOSFET can handle 1.47v but not 1.4?

theoretically it cant handle anything of this torture... more than 1.35 was the hell on my 790gx, probably more than 100c sometimes. if he continues this way, sure... some day something bad will happen... but thats the way of the overclocker, if he goes against good advise

i just told him, how he can enlenghten the time, he has good from the board

TheMailMan78 · Apr 26, 2011

Velvet Wafer said:
theoretically it cant handle anything of this torture... more than 1.35 was the hell on my 790gx, probably more than 100c sometimes. if he continues this way, sure... some day something bad will happen... but thats the way of the overclocker, if he goes against good advise
i just told him, how he can enlenghten the time, he has good from the board

If you were hitting 100c on stock voltage then you have bigger issues.

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
If you were hitting 100c on stock voltage then you have bigger issues.

that were VRM temps, Mailman... (burned my finger nicely)... but im mild with you today

... as one thousand suns, cant even compute one bit... well, i guess you know what i mean

TheMailMan78 · Apr 26, 2011

Velvet Wafer said:
that were VRM temps, Mailman... (burned my finger nicely)... but im mild with you today ... as one thousand suns, cant even compute one bit... well, i guess you know what i mean

Well you were not clear on that. Still you would hit 100c with stock volts? Again you sound like you had a bum board.

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

TheMailMan78 said:
Well you were not clear on that. Still you would hit 100c with stock volts? Again you sound like you had a bum board.

nah, come on! :laugh:

thats what all the talk was about since a good amount of posts
to elaborate further: yes, my board was not the best, in that it had no VRM cooling, paired with a 4+1 PWM, which was rated for 140w, similar to this board here.
i abandoned it long ago, and a few months after that, it died a Biostar Death... the mysterious Biostop.

boise49ers · Apr 26, 2011

Corduroy_Jr said:
wow crazy like pushing things to the limit nice job, so who wants to get into a game of some bc2 action hehe

I was on Heavy Metal for awhile. I think I'm just gonna leave it stock. If it need OC'ed for BF3 them I will probably get a new
ATX board that is also set up for CF. I'd really hate to screw this one up after just getting it a week ago.
It is playing everything I have Great right now including Metro on High at 1080p. Thanks for Letting me
waste all your time fella's :roll:

By the way if 1.4 voltage is bad why does mine run stock at 1.45 ?
Because it isn't OC'ed ?

Velvet Wafer · Apr 26, 2011

boise49ers said:
I was on Heavy Metal for awhile. I think I'm just gonna leave it stock. If it need OC'ed for BF3 them I will probably get a new
ATX board that is also set up for CF. I'd really hate to screw this one up after just getting it a week ago.
It is playing everything I have Great right now including Metro on High at 1080p. Thanks for Letting me
waste all your time fella's By the way if 1.4 voltage is bad why does mine run stock at 1.45 ?
Because it isn't OC'ed ?

i honestly can think of no reason, besides the board beeing bugged... stock voltage should be 1.35 if im not wrong

boise49ers · Apr 26, 2011

Velvet Wafer said:
i honestly can think of no reason, besides the board beeing bugged... stock voltage should be 1.35 if im not wrong

Ok so I should go in and knock it down to 1.4 at least ?

fullinfusion · Apr 26, 2011

boise49ers said:
Ok so I should go in and knock it down to 1.4 at least ?

you have something in your bios enabled to cause the voltage to be that high.

1.40v is ok for stock but try to find how low it can go before it poops out on ya.
1.35-1.40v is stock 1090T voltages...

I was playing with turbo setting yesterday and notices when turbo was disabled and cpu voltage was set to auto @ 3.2ghz, nb 3000mhz the cpu voltage was at idle around 1.23-1.25v

I enabled turbo mode for testing and left the rest of the turbo settings on auto and the volts were around 1.43-45ishV

boise49ers · Apr 26, 2011

fullinfusion said:
you have something in your bios enabled to cause the voltage to be that high.

1.40v is ok for stock but try to find how low it can go before it poops out on ya.
1.35-1.40v is stock 1090T voltages...

I was playing with turbo setting yesterday and notices when turbo was disabled and cpu voltage was set to auto @ 3.2ghz, nb 3000mhz the cpu voltage was at idle around 1.23-1.25v

I enabled turbo mode for testing and left the rest of the turbo settings on auto and the volts were around 1.43-45ishV

Sounds like that could be it. Thanks

TheMailMan78 · Apr 26, 2011

Velvet Wafer said:
i honestly can think of no reason, besides the board beeing bugged... stock voltage should be 1.35 if im not wrong

Hes right Boise. If all else fails just reset the bios. Some bios are funny that way. The only way I could truly reset an old MSI board I used to have was to yank the battery out.

de.das.dude · Apr 26, 2011

boise49ers said:
OK , I don't do anything more then gaming and my system runs about 5 or 6 hours a day. I wasn't offended just frustrated. It has happened with so many things I have purchased that I get overwhelmed with bad news after awhile. Thanks ! I see some heat sinks aren't those the phases. Does it look like it has any extra protection ? Again I'm lost on VRM ? What is it and what do I touch to see if it is heating up to melt down ? Thanks for your Patients fella's !
http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3635/3601.jpg

the caps/condensors lining the chokes beside the mosfets get hot too, but since these are solid ones, i dont worry. (but it does get hot, too hot to touch if u have thin skin)

fullinfusion · Apr 26, 2011

then do what I and many others do, place a fan towards the vregs and such to keepem cool.

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Audio Device(s)	C-Media CMI8738/C3DX
Power Supply	Corsair TX850
Mouse	Cyborg R.A.T. 7
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