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I haven't undervolted mine because I don't have problems with temps. But it does 1980 core on its own..
A quick comparison of the 3060ti's I have/had
Palit dual OC: 200W stock, avg clocks 1850-1900@950-1000mv stock, 1900@875mv stock perf at 170W.
Msi gaming Z trio: 240W stock, avg clocks 1950-2000@1030-1100mv stock, 1900@900mv stock perf at 180W.
Asus dual oc: 205W stock, avg clocks 1900-2000@930-1030mv stock, 1980@900mv stock perf at 180W.
Asus tuf oc: 200W stock, avg clocks 1850-1900@950-1000mv stock, 2070@950mv 104% perf at 205W.

Scaling on the Palit and Asus dual was, Msi 45MHz higher at same voltages, Asus tuf 30MHz on top of that
1515@700mv 100W@75% perf due to vram downclock
1545@731mv 120W@86% perf (lowest voltage vram runs full speed)
1770@800mv 145W@93% perf
1920@900mv 180W@101% perf

At 1900 cards typically runs at 1000mv stock so there is 100-150mv higher than required.

If you don't care about temp/electricity cost stock is fine, but you can get 5-10% higher perf at same consumption or stock performance at 10-25% (most on 2x8 cards like Msi trio, Gigabyte gaming pro etc) lower consumption or 85-90% of perf at 40% lower consumption :) Worth exploring, find your sweetspot.
 

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Agreed that I would undervolt any card I bought now.

Undervolting is the new overclocking.
 

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Agreed that I would undervolt any card I bought now.

Undervolting is the new overclocking.
We played halo infinite and R6 siege at the LAN party i was at last weekend

My CPU is all core underclocked to 4.6
GPU underclocked to 1.6GHz

I was flatlining 165FPS the entire time, pushing 200-230 when i turned Vsync off out of curiosity
 
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Gulp, found a buyer for my 3060 ti which has been exquisite for the past few months I've had it. 3080 12Gb and 850w PSU incoming tomorrow. 4K smoothness a go go :rockout:Honestly, I've been playing practically everything at 4k DLSS just on my 3060 Ti and although yes it can go down to 30fps at times it's been a very smooth frametime experience and that was with ray tracing as well on Windows 11. Too excited......ha ha
 
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Sorry for double post but couldn't seem to edit my last post. Card is lovely, temps are around 65c with an undervolt @1950 constant. Mem junction tops out at 86c and hotspot is always 10c above GPU so around 75-76c all at 4k. Can't hear it either. 3600 holding it back only a tiny bit but couldn't resist so a nice 65w 5700x is incoming tomorrow :) Then I need to focus on building up food supplies, securing the house and preparing for WWIII. Real life Fallout is coming with 1000 times the detail.
 

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Sorry for double post but couldn't seem to edit my last post. Card is lovely, temps are around 65c with an undervolt @1950 constant. Mem junction tops out at 86c and hotspot is always 10c above GPU so around 75-76c all at 4k. Can't hear it either. 3600 holding it back only a tiny bit but couldn't resist so a nice 65w 5700x is incoming tomorrow :) Then I need to focus on building up food supplies, securing the house and preparing for WWIII. Real life Fallout is coming with 1000 times the detail.
Theres a time delay after which new posts dont auto merge, and you cant edit
It's so people get notified of the new content

from experience with that CPU upgrade, you'll find your max FPS skyrocketing - my brother for example with his 3080 and his 4.2GHz 3700x was stuck at 110-130FPS 1440p in modern games, put in his 5900x and was sitting at 200+FPS in the same titles
(All single threaded gains, we checked)

TL;DR: you wont see big changes at higher res, but you WILL see big changes at high refresh rates

Okay: my GPU has had a label on it saying 3090Ti to annoy people for months

Legit 3090Ti's are now out


What's next? 4090? 3091? 3090 Ti^2?
 
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In Cyberpunk with 3060ti and dlss 1080p ultra I rarely exceeded 100fps with my 3600, stable around 80-90fps, 5600X on the pther hand avgs around 120-130fps so quite a difference.
 
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A few things made me jump on the 5700x. 65w, cost - it was 50 quid less than the 5800x and also the fact that I only have a no frills B450 board (which runs wells however). I chop and change between 1080p and 4K and have a huge range of games (Over a 1000 installed). I've noticed that even in 4k the 3600 is sometimes missing that bottom end grunt as well (albeit on badly optimised games) so that boost will be lovely. I'll report back later today when I get the chip how it all goes.

In other news, turns out my 3080 can easily hit 2000 constant with a tiny bump to .956 and no change in temp. Tested it last night in Cyberpunk 2007, Control, Metro Exodus and God Of War for a few hours. It's a fantastic card, but the biggest surprise is on lesser known titles where it now allows me to have a 4k Vsync locked experience that previously would not have been possible on the 3060 Ti. Gonna play around with it more tonight and see how far it will go on the core with a memory overclock on top. All of this in a shitty case....may start a thread asking for opinions on some of the best airflow cases.
 
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A few things made me jump on the 5700x. 65w, cost - it was 50 quid less than the 5800x and also the fact that I only have a no frills B450 board (which runs wells however). I chop and change between 1080p and 4K and have a huge range of games (Over a 1000 installed). I've noticed that even in 4k the 3600 is sometimes missing that bottom end grunt as well (albeit on badly optimised games) so that boost will be lovely. I'll report back later today when I get the chip how it all goes.

In other news, turns out my 3080 can easily hit 2000 constant with a tiny bump to .956 and no change in temp. Tested it last night in Cyberpunk 2007, Control, Metro Exodus and God Of War for a few hours. It's a fantastic card, but the biggest surprise is on lesser known titles where it now allows me to have a 4k Vsync locked experience that previously would not have been possible on the 3060 Ti. Gonna play around with it more tonight and see how far it will go on the core with a memory overclock on top. All of this in a shitty case....may start a thread asking for opinions on some of the best airflow cases.
5700X seems good, perf is only 1-2% below 5800X in gaming, but runs much cooler with 76W PPT vs 142W on 5800X. I recommend you to tweak ram (10-20% better perf using dlss perf at 4k) and try curve optimizer (might boost allcore by 2-300MHz and will lower temp at single core).

If your monitor has adaptive sync, turn that on and set a fos cap at 57-58fps if Hz is 60 max, this will greatly improve input lag vs running v-sync at 60:

 
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Got my 5700x yesterday, as suspected, it has made the world of difference in the minimums of less optimised games and has now provided an extremely smooth ride with the 3080 at all resolutions. So, bearing in mind I'm on a fairly basic B450 board, only have 3200 RAM and a cooler that cost under 30 pounds. I managed to get a very stable 4.7Ghz all core overclock at 1.284v. It's a static overclock because of how limited the board is with the proper way of overclocking ryzen and how badly implemented the fan curve is in the bios. I've settled on a very chilly 4.5Ghz at 1.2v and will leave it there probably as I don't need anymore at 4K.

Nagging voice in my head says get a nice new board,case, rams and cooler but honestly that defeats the object of why I bought a Ryzen 3600 setup in the first place.....a drop in CPU upgrade when I wanted one without shelling out loads more money. It does what I want it to do so I guess I'm extremely happy, but still...:D
 

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Got my 5700x yesterday, as suspected, it has made the world of difference in the minimums of less optimised games and has now provided an extremely smooth ride with the 3080 at all resolutions. So, bearing in mind I'm on a fairly basic B450 board, only have 3200 RAM and a cooler that cost under 30 pounds. I managed to get a very stable 4.7Ghz all core overclock at 1.284v. It's a static overclock because of how limited the board is with the proper way of overclocking ryzen and how badly implemented the fan curve is in the bios. I've settled on a very chilly 4.5Ghz at 1.2v and will leave it there probably as I don't need anymore at 4K.

Nagging voice in my head says get a nice new board,case, rams and cooler but honestly that defeats the object of why I bought a Ryzen 3600 setup in the first place.....a drop in CPU upgrade when I wanted one without shelling out loads more money. It does what I want it to do so I guess I'm extremely happy, but still...:D
that 4.7GHz is still quite high, for zen 3
 
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because there is lot of trouble in this section....


so, i dont know how good is that new nvidia driver..... in here, is there any problem with that driver... should i install or not...... etc....
Unless it's solving specific issue that you're seeing in your system using your current driver or it has some performance improvements for new titles I see no reason in updating the driver.
 
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Got my 5700x yesterday, as suspected, it has made the world of difference in the minimums of less optimised games and has now provided an extremely smooth ride with the 3080 at all resolutions. So, bearing in mind I'm on a fairly basic B450 board, only have 3200 RAM and a cooler that cost under 30 pounds. I managed to get a very stable 4.7Ghz all core overclock at 1.284v. It's a static overclock because of how limited the board is with the proper way of overclocking ryzen and how badly implemented the fan curve is in the bios. I've settled on a very chilly 4.5Ghz at 1.2v and will leave it there probably as I don't need anymore at 4K.

Nagging voice in my head says get a nice new board,case, rams and cooler but honestly that defeats the object of why I bought a Ryzen 3600 setup in the first place.....a drop in CPU upgrade when I wanted one without shelling out loads more money. It does what I want it to do so I guess I'm extremely happy, but still...:D
Pbo+curve optimizer is more beneficial :) Also find out what ram die you have with thaiphoon burner and tweak/overclock it. Many 3200 kits can run 3800 with okay timings and boost performance by 10-20% easy!
 
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@Taraquin Yeh I know that's more beneficial but the motherboard is pretty average in terms of implementation, I'll wait until I get a better board. As far as ram goes I'll probably leave that as well. It's honestly doing everything I need it to do at the moment and I'm a happy gamer but again, I'll probably leave playing with it until I get a better board :)

Anyways, back to ampere in this thread......anyone picked up a 3090 Ti? :D
 
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@Taraquin Anyways, back to ampere in this thread......anyone picked up a 3090 Ti? :D
It's around $500 more in here compared to my 3080Ti when i got it during the peak price hike :D

as my money isnt infinite i have ZERO reason to get one :D
 
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It's around $500 more in here compared to my 3080Ti when i got it during the peak price hike :D

as my money isnt infinite i have ZERO reason to get one :D
Absolutely agree, if money was no object I would still probably wait for the 4 series :)
 

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because there is lot of trouble in this section....


so, i dont know how good is that new nvidia driver..... in here, is there any problem with that driver... should i install or not...... etc....
You'd be better asking over there, than asking here without context like you did
No issues here on my 3 systems with W11, and my 10/30 series cards.

I dont see the problem however, even if a driver causes issues you can simply just roll back.
 
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I grabbed a 3090 ti after a particularly profitable work week and a possible bout of bad judgement (that I refuse to undo...)

I will post photos when it arrives. It's the evga ftw3 variant.
 
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I grabbed a 3090 ti after a particularly profitable work week and a possible bout of bad judgement (that I refuse to undo...)

I will post photos when it arrives. It's the evga ftw3 variant.
Nice and Why not, life's too short :) I'd welcome a thread on your new card or some benches in this one. Enjoy it my friend.
 

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Oh i decided i had to outdo people like froggo:
Introducing the 3090 ShiTi edition, it's craptacular!
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outdo people like frogg
Impossible... nothing can outdo my crappy cable management. It's like Satan had a baby with Cthulu.

I make up for it with brute force airflow... and moving my rig as far from me as possible. Currently it's not even in the same room! Hdmi 2.1 was tricky!

Big blowers and brute force solve all problems, questing fingers included.
 
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