Alright post below for which RTX3000 GPU you are buying and where.
Don't you mean "Another Amper Purchase Thread" ?
NVIDIA just announced the GeForce RTX 3090 ($1500), RTX 3080 ($700) and RTX 3070 ($500). Do you feel like Ampere is for you? If yes, which card are you most interested in? Or sticking with Turing? Or AMD?
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1. Always wait for the prices to fade while peeps who have to be the 1st on the block to have the new shiny thing push prices up. Vendrds can't sell products with empty warehpouse shelves... so push price up to make th emost of what they got. When supply catches up with demand procing will stabilize.
2. Always wait for the improved performance AIB cards. Vendors can't sell stock they can' get.
3. Always wait for later stepping with al PC componentry ... MSI Tapegate (1st shipments tape aghesive was too aggressive and early adopters broke their fans removing, EVGA 970 SC (1/3 of Heat sink missed GPU), Oops, no thermal pads on EVGA FTW / SC 10xx series cards cards
4. Always wait for stable drivers
5. Always wait for full spectrum of TPU reviews to see which brand / series has the best numbers. Will have to wait and see who has best OC, heat and Power numbers. It's been MSI in most instances w/ 1xxx and 2xxx series based upon TPU test results but have no loyalty to any manufacturer. This "hardware whore" always sets out to bring home the prom queen (aka best performnace card based upon TPUs "measurements" ... OC, sound and heat . Definitely won't be FE..... and not EVGA not only because of OC, noise and heat performanc elest few generations but the disastrous offerings with 9xx and 10xx series cards.
6. Always wait for competition to hit market ...not to wait to see if there's abetter card ... don't see a 100% generation improvement comoing from AMD, but another series of release day price cuts needed to address the lower performance my bring the 3xxx cads price down a bit, at least the mid tiers.
7. Will also wait to see which waterblocks and what PCBs are offered in paired offerings. Like the Seahawk EK combo as it was agreat block,, and it as even cheaper then buying separately ... but their paired the weaker PCBD with an EK block ,,,,woulda sold better with the Gaming X or Z PCBs methinkz.
EDIT: Well color me surprised and looks like I have to "unsay" a few comments from above.
Card | OC | Temp | Idle Noise | Gaming Noise | Power Limit | Price |
3080 FE | 250.1 | 80 | 0 | 36 | 320 | $ 700 |
MSi Gaming X Trio | 256.4 | 77 | 0 | 32 | 340 | $ 760 |
Asus TUF Gaming OC | 249.5 | 66 | 0 | 35 | 340 | $ 730 |
Zotac Trinity | 240.9 | 74 | 0 | 32 | 320 | $ 700 |
Palit Gaming Pro OC | 241.1 | 73 | 0 | 36 | 320 | $ 710 |
All in all, you just have to consider the FE a "player".
First have to make a comment about Asus' "Quite BIOS". Manufacturer's have to balance heat and power with their fan curves. More rpm means less temps, more noise. Having multiple BIOSs means you can look good in temps for on and look good for noise on the other. If we going to evaluate on the basis of the quiet BIOS, they we have to see the the performnace to go with it. Since "performance" is what it is all about ... those are the ones in the above table.
1. The FE beats all aftermarket cards in overclocking, that's a shocker.
2. The big standout here is the 66C temperature of the Asus card ... don't know anything about VRMs and memory, but they have to be commended here. All things being equal, I'd be inclined to grab the Asus. But they are not. Noise impacts me tho and I'd be inclined to switch to the Quiet BIOS ... but w/o knowing the noise and performance numbers for that BIOS, they have to be discounted.
3. Forgetting for a moment that I'd be overclocking, I would still rather have the 3 dbA lower noise than than lower temps. Noise impacts me, temps don't, with limits of course. For GPUs / CPus, as long as I'm not gonna break over 80C, it's not something I think much about.
4. So for the 1st time ever , I'm gonna say the FE card is truly an option worth considering. First of all... it's 2 slots .... which will be a big thing form folks who need that 3rd slot. Second, only 1 AIB card beats it in overclocking.
5. Yet again, MSI wins the overclocking title ... Not that, based upon recent generations...77C is in any way scary .... it does stand out next to Asus 66C. With the quiet BIOS the Asus wind with a 71C / 31 dBA combo. Would like to know if Quiet BIOS affects OC performance. Asus also allows you to adjust the power limit to 375, matching the power rating of the power delivery system (2 x 150 cables + 75 slot power). I do find it a bit unsettling that the card is capable of pulling 404 watts witha power delivery system only rated for 350 ... shades of the 6 pin AMD 480 where it resulted in pulling scary power levels from the PCIE slot
6. Personally, I'd go for the MSI ... I'm gonna put a water block on it anyway which will have temp < 40C and noise well below audible levels. MSI for some weird reason limited the power adjustment to 350, lower than the FEs 350. So why have that 3rd power connector ? Will we see an update increasing this ? The power delivery system can handle 525 watts, why artificially limit it to 350 ... especially
when we consider that under Furmark, it's pulling 425 watts.
Every user has different needs and different limitations ... I see valid arguments for choosing the FE, Asus or MSI cards depending up user's needs, preferences and budget. I do not like that the cards are capable of drawing wattage that exceeds rated limit of the power delivery systems ... but it's baffling why MSI took on th expense of adding a 3rd power connector, but their limit the power slider adjustment to under 375 while they are the only ones who didn't have to. Cut that baby loose ... maybe they saving for a Gaming Z or other model line ? For the 1st time ver, I'm of a mind that the FE is not a bad choice. The Palit and Zotac drop temps a bit, but that has no no real impact and just aren't bringing anything to the table. The Zotac drops noise levels but the FE is 4% faster.
