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Hey guys! I'm really stumped at choosing a really good socket 478 motherboard so wish u guys can help me out. I bought a Asus P4P800-SE motherboard just last summer and it broke... SO im looking for a new motherboard now. I really didn't want to upgrade to those new motherboards cuz i would have to change my cpu, video card to pci-express blah blah.

So, what motherboard should I get for socket 478? I have an Intel Pentium 4 3.0E Ghz processor, 1gb of Corsair 3200XL ram, AIW 9800pro vid card and i want to have IEEE1394. I'm not gonna be overclocking this motherboard right now, but in the future I might... just to keep up with the crowd ;) . Not really sure what the major differences are between I865 and I875 chipsets, but seeing as socket 478 is almost obselete now, I want the I875 chipset motherboards since it offers better performance.

What motherboard should I get?
 

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#2
Keiki said:
Hey guys! I'm really stumped at choosing a really good socket 478 motherboard so wish u guys can help me out. I bought a Asus P4P800-SE motherboard just last summer and it broke... SO im looking for a new motherboard now. I really didn't want to upgrade to those new motherboards cuz i would have to change my cpu, video card to pci-express blah blah.

So, what motherboard should I get for socket 478? I have an Intel Pentium 4 3.0E Ghz processor, 1gb of Corsair 3200XL ram, AIW 9800pro vid card and i want to have IEEE1394. I'm not gonna be overclocking this motherboard right now, but in the future I might... just to keep up with the crowd ;) . Not really sure what the major differences are between I865 and I875 chipsets, but seeing as socket 478 is almost obselete now, I want the I875 chipset motherboards since it offers better performance.

What motherboard should I get?
Keiki ... I would look at getting another ASUS .... P4C800-E... best i875 board IMHO with the ABIT IC-7G running a close second ... don't forget that DFI has an i875 board but is socket T (LGA775) which means a new CPU but still a good board ...
 

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What's the difference between P4P800 Deluxe and P4P800-E? They're both pretty much the same board right?
 

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What's the difference between P4P800 Deluxe and P4P800-E? They're both pretty much the same board right?
Close but the -E has a different Nic and hardrive controllers I believe, It's closer to the P4C800 than the plan P4P800 ... The -E is a newer rev and it's the board I'm using at this time ... w/ the CT-479 adapter and PM 750
 
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I have to P4P800-E Deluxe aswell, and I highly recommend it. Have heard lots of good things about the Abit IC-7's too.

-Dan
 

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Well, I wanna know what the main difference is between P4C800 and the P4C800-E. Performancewise I haven't seen a really large increase in reviews. If it's only minimal differences I would rather get the P4C800 and save myself a couple of extra bucks :) . Btw, I only have 1 200GB SATA harddrive and 2 IDE harddrives which are 120gb and 200gb. Does the P4C800-E have an increased performance over the P4C800 in SATA harddrives or is it only when I have 2 or more SATA harddrives installed?
 
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The P4C is a fair bit more money than the P4P. The main difference is the chipset. It has the 875 over the 865 of the P4P. And they other thing that the P4C has is PAT. But the P4P has it, but just in a different form. Besides that I think the rest is the same.

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The P4C is a fair bit more money than the P4P. The main difference is the chipset. It has the 875 over the 865 of the P4P. And they other thing that the P4C has is PAT. But the P4P has it, but just in a different form. Besides that I think the rest is the same.

-Dan
Whoa... thanks for mentioning the P4P800. I just checked on the internet for reviews and I found that the P4P800-E Deluxe actually offers more or less the same performance with the P4C800-E with "pat" or what the guys at asus calls it "hyperpath". It is actually MUCH cheaper as well. It also does most of the things I want it to. IEEE1394, PAT, etc. I guess Im gonna go with this board then since it offers so much more for less money.
 
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Im very happy with my IC7 its built for OC with tons of options in the BIOS, great performance and the PAT really lowers memory latency. I had an IS7 previously which uses the same PAT hacks as the ASUS one on the 865PE chipset, I find the IC7 much easier to work with.
 

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INSTG8R, I have looked at the Abit IC7 as well but I found comparisons between the P4P800-E and the Abit IC7 that put it off my list. If you look at this comparison

http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/asus-p4p800-e/index06.htm

the P4P800-E actually performs on par with the IC7 and in most cases, beating it. Also, the P4P800-E is cheaper than the I875 boards.
 

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i am using a p4p800-e deluxe with wifi... and i can say that this is a very good board and regarding PAT... u can actually enable it if u know how 2 do it... the only drawback is d max vdimm is 2.85V...

unless if u wanna o/c like hell... get dis board... or not... get a abit ic7 max3

actually it depends on ur budget
 
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i am using a p4p800-e deluxe with wifi...
same board here, so far i'm rock stable... should you still have a thicker budget, jump for a p4c800-e deluxe... p4c800's are legendary overclockers! :cool:
 
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the only drawback is d max vdimm is 2.85V...
You can use the OCZ DDR Booster on this board though. :D

-Dan
 

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same board here, so far i'm rock stable... should you still have a thicker budget, jump for a p4c800-e deluxe... p4c800's are legendary overclockers! :cool:
Hmm, not really planning to overclock all that much though (It will kill my hardware inside my case since my case only has 1 120mm outtake fan at the back and no fans can be installed from the side or at the front) and as it stands, the P4P800-E and the P4C800-E have around the same performance.

Another factor is that I need to be able to buy this card retail, but I cannot find the P4C800-E for sale but I did find the P4P800-E selling for $140 CDN.
 
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just bear in mind that it has been proven just lately that ASUS OC their boards a bit without telling you(hence the nice performance boosts)I would go for the 875 over the 865 I have both the PATs in ABit form (IC7 and IS7) the IC7 is much friendlier board as the 865PE boards require really tight RAM timings to make use of the PAT(at least in the Abits Case)
 
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Yes that is true with the P4P800-E Deluxe as well. You need close/have 2-2-2-5 timings to make full use of it. Heres a nice review on the P4P800-E Deluxe.

-Dan
 

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well while were on it can anyone point me in the direction of an exellent 453pkg mobo? :) thnx i would hope it supports sdram being all i have :(
 
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Yes that is true with the P4P800-E Deluxe as well. You need close/have 2-2-2-5 timings to make full use of it. Heres a nice review on the P4P800-E Deluxe.

-Dan
I have corsair twinmx 3200XL which has 2-2-2-5 timings, so ram really isn't a problem here :p
 
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Nope. :D You should have good luck with the PAT on this board then. Even though its not called PAT, but it is basically. :rolleyes:

-Dan
 

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i've been using an abit ic7 for ages .. excellent board ..
 

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tottaly sweet board sept it isnt 453 sigh i envy anyone w/ a higher pin pakg if i didnt loose my job :mad: ive have an a64 dual core sys or an fx-57 #@$%^#$
 

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Hmmm this may be going off topic a bit but, if I use the onboard audio opposed to my Soundblaster live 5.1 would I notice a performance decrease? Would using the onboard audio rather than using a sound card result in a performance decrease?
 
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It will a bit...not much, it probably wont sound as good. Benchmarks will take a but of a hit. I had a sound blaster 5.1 and a didn't install it straight away and never did put it cause the onboard was good enought. But the sound blaster has better support for games...

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gonna have to say the asus p4p/p4c series of boards. they are excellent quality products from my experiences, they oc well and are stable boards :) .

im currently on my second asus board, a p4p800e-deluxe, i previously owned a p4p800se but i upgraded for the extra sata/raid and for native firewire ;)