The everything Crysis thread...

[Lionheart]

If you want to play Crysis maxed out, and still be playable, you're going to need more than a single GPU.

The highest benchmark for Crysis set as high as it can go, is 3-way GTX 285 SLI. Water-cooled and superclocked. Crysis is programmed to be better optimized for Nvidia graphics cards. If you can play Crysis on all "very high" specs, with 8x AA, and resolutions beyond 1920x1080, you need 3 GTX 285's and a Core i7 @ 4.5 GHz.

Enjoy these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa091r-O9YM - 4way SLI GTX 285

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKQVqcHRos4 - 4way Crossfire HD5870

 

[Monkey_Business]

Enjoy these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa091r-O9YM - 4way SLI GTX 285

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKQVqcHRos4 - 4way Crossfire HD5870

How are you supposed to power something like that?

 

[Lionheart]

How are you supposed to power something like that?

Portable nuclear powerplant

 

[erocker]

You must work for crytek! I hope erocker bans your arse!

That would be silly. Plus, I did post without providing any proof of how poorly made the game is. Phxprovost is correct. Though I don't see any argument how this is a beautifully coded game. It doesn't matter, the point I was trying to make and it is only my opinion (one person out of 6+ billion people) that Crysis sucks. Or perhaps, Crysis was a bit over ambitious, even by today's standards. Even if I'm wrong (which as a human being I most certainly am from time to time), it doesn't matter nor is detrimental to my or any other members quality of life. Maybe he was cranky? I get cranky sometimes and tell people to STFU too. Sometimes I need to be told to STFU once in a while. Anyways, my point isn't so much about how the game was made, just that it isn't a very good game to play If people want to get upset over a game, it's on them. It indeed does take all kinds.

 

[TIGR]

Those jumping on the bandwagon of accusing Crysis of being poorly optimized ought to read posts by ctrain in this topic.

I've had no problem playing Crysis, right from the start, both updated and non-updated, on many rigs, and I've run some unusual setups that seem bound to bring out bugs if there are any. Many people have run into bugs with Crysis—and many have run into bugs with other games. It happens.

As for the OP's question, don't know. See Monkey's reply above.

 

[digibucc]

lets see proof of your claims..ohh wait you have none yup crysis and the cryengine are poorly coded. More useless rambling from people who have no idea what they are talking about...but it takes all kinds right?

it takes all kinds? that doesn't even make any sense! if you are really that bent on believing Crysis to be some masterfully coded piece of art than nothing will convince you otherwise...

as though we have even the slightest concern about convincing you...

it's rubbish. pretty, but poorly coded. there is no excuse for such low performance on such high end machines. no excuse what so ever! let's see your proof otherwise?

it never rains but it pours.... (see what i did there?)

 

[Reefer86]

i dont know people insist on playing this game after all these years, it really aint that great any ways storyline wise.

 

[TIGR]

i dont know people insist on playing this game after all these years, it really aint that great any ways storyline wise.

Not that I consider it a work of art or "the best game ever," but I still enjoy Crysis. People play all sorts of games that have been around for years. I still play Delta Force BHD, released in 2003. In fact, it's one of my favorite games. I prefer CoD4 to MW2. I prefer Need for Speed Most Wanted to any of the newer titles. Saying "it aint that great any ways" is simply your subjective opinion.

Crysis gets a lot of hate, largely because it's a good bandwagon to jump on. It's like hating Britney Spears—just plain the popular thing to do.

 

[digibucc]

Crysis gets a lot of hate, largely because it's a good bandwagon to jump on. It's like hating Britney Spears—just plain the popular thing to do.

that is absolutely ridiculous. if saying that in some way makes the argument go away in your mind it's even worse.

Crysis is a game that has been hyped beyond reality without any real critical analysis. it is one of the most popular games ever so how could not liking it be considered popular? it is impossible to even present a well thought out negative critique of the game without having countless fanboys jump down your throat for it!

they disregard the very real faults it has and point to how pretty it is, or how hard it is to run. as though those make up for a shoddy storyline, mangled gameplay, and poorly coded software!

it is in no way popular to hate Crysis. i just do it because i can't stand seeing it lauded as some work of modern art, when it's far from it. same goes for bioshock.

 

[JATownes]

How does Crysis run on "very high" settings on 1024x768 resolution with the fastest GPU(s) money can currently buy?

I've never been crazy about resolution, and it doesn't make games look leaps and bounds better. 1024x768 vs 1920x1200 is not the difference between night and day like most people claim it is. It can mean the difference between an enjoyable gaming experience, and a completely unplayable framerate.

Anti-aliasing is also another performance hog to a GPU.

Off-topic, but how would a single HD 5870 run Crysis on all "very high" specs with no AA and 1024x768 resolution?

Just out of curiousity...Who games at 1024x768 anymore? At that low of a resolution, that 2.66 Ghz processor could be causing some issues too, as gaming at that low of a resolution makes the game more CPU dependent than GPU dependent. Buy a new monitor, crank up to 1680x1050 or 1920x1080 and try again. Crysis does suck...but low resolution sucks more IMO.

 

[TIGR]

that is absolutely ridiculous. if saying that in some way makes the argument go away in your mind it's even worse.

Crysis is a game that has been hyped beyond reality without any real critical analysis. it is one of the most popular games ever so how could not liking it be considered popular? it is impossible to even present a well thought out negative critique of the game without having countless fanboys jump down your throat for it!

they disregard the very real faults it has and point to how pretty it is, or how hard it is to run. as though those make up for a shoddy storyline, mangled gameplay, and poorly coded software!

it is in no way popular to hate Crysis. i just do it because i can't stand seeing it lauded as some work of modern art, when it's far from it. same goes for bioshock.

Did you just call me a Crysis fanboy after I specifically said "Not that I consider it a work of art or 'the best game ever,'...." The nicest comment I made about it was that I "like" it. It's far from my favorite game. Did you look at the link I posted previously, referring those hating on Crysis to posts by ctrain for an interesting perspective?

Did Crysis sell big? Obviously. So yes, it at least was popular. Is it popular to hate on Crysis? In this poll, 49.1% of people felt it was overrated, while 11.4% felt it was underrated. Googling "Crysis sucks" gets over 3.5 million search results. I have not seen a forum topic about Crysis come up in the past twelve months where there wasn't more than one person who accused Crysis of being outright crap or at least badly coded. In this topic alone, I see approximately twice as many posts calling Crysis crap as there are posts saying it's good. There was even a recommendation that someone who liked it be banned for stating his opinion.

But I'll leave it at that. I don't really care about Crysis. Didn't expect someone to get so upset about my post.

 

[digibucc]

Did you just call me a Crysis fanboy after I specifically said "Not that I consider it a work of art or 'the best game ever,'...." The nicest comment I made about it was that I "like" it. It's far from my favorite game.

no i definitely didn't. I had issue with just "it's popular to hate crysis" - and didn't assume any further on your part.

I just took the opportunity to launch into my crysis diatribe...

 

[TIGR]

I just took the opportunity to launch into my crysis diatribe...

And that's my only point—it has become a diatribe, a drone, a bandwagon for many, and I see good posts from people explaining why it is as performance-demanding as it is on the one side, and a lot of claims that it is "badly optimized" or coded from the other, with nothing to support those claims. So I consider it popular to hate on Crysis and am not sure it's warranted. It may well be, but I'd like to see some intelligent debate on it, rather than the regurgitation of the same "poorly coded" claim I've seen hundreds of times before without references or evidence.

 

[erocker]

And that's my only point—it has become a diatribe, a drone, a bandwagon for many, and I see good posts from people explaining why it is as performance-demanding as it is on the one side, and a lot of claims that it is "badly optimized" or coded from the other, with nothing to support those claims. So I consider it popular to hate on Crysis and am not sure it's warranted. It may be, but I'd like to see some intelligent debate on it, rather than the regurgitation of the same "poorly coded" claim I've seen hundreds of times without references or evidence.

"Badly optimized" regardless of implementation is still badly optimized. I don't think anyone is questioning the implementation and techniques used to make the game, it's just a matter of it not running well with current hardware at the time. Call it ahead of it's time or whatever, some call it optimization. I really don't see what the problem is. If I wanted to get into learning how to code a game, I wouldn't bother to waste my time holding a Crysis discussion on it, I'd go out and make games. If you would like intelligent debate on it, why not enlighten us on the subject instead of basically doing what the people opposed to your argument are doing. So far, it's "It's not optimized" / "It is optimized" back and forth back and forth.

Examples:

Here is a race track and anyone can race on it. The race track is full of large potholes and only monster trucks can race on it in reality. Poorly optimized racetrack

Here is a drinking straw that anyone can use. It is 1 foot wide so only the largest of mouths can really use it. Poorly optimized drinking straw.

I'm starting to think that a really offensive word should just replace the word "optimized" so people won't get upset.

Anyways, there are current GPU's that will play Crysis maxed out.

 

[TIGR]

If you would like intelligent debate on it, why not enlighten us on the subject instead of basically doing what the people opposed to your argument are doing. So far, it's "It's not optimized" / "It is optimized" back and forth back and forth.

Did you look at the link I posted previously? Care to address ctrain's posts? I haven't said "it is well optimized," and wanting to see intelligent debate on it doesn't mean I know the correct answer to the question being debated—that's the point. At any rate, the ball is in the court of those claiming that the game is badly optimized. If you want to make that claim, be ready to back it up.

The term "optimized" is being seen to mean two different things here. I am thinking of it in terms of the code's efficiency at generating a visually impressive game per computing power required. You seem to be defining optimization as how well the game fits the hardware available on the game's release date. So maybe it's a simple misunderstanding.

But I have to back up and stop debating this as it is not the discussion the OP asked for. He asked when hardware will be available to play a game at a certain level of quality, and right from the first reply, people jumped in disregarding him and flooding the topic with opinions about Crysis being "a horribly coded POS," "crap," etc. It's hard to get answers to your question when people are convinced that getting their opinions in is more important than addressing the topic, so I shall quit contributing to it (sorry Monkey!). You guys can have the last word. But it would be more respectful to the OP to start a new topic for this debate.

 

[erocker]

The term "optimized" is being seen to mean two different things here. I am thinking of it in terms of the code's efficiency at generating a visually impressive game per computing power required. You seem to be defining optimization as how well the game fits the hardware available on the game's release date. So maybe it's a simple misunderstanding.

There it is.

I pretty much summed it up in my previous post. You don't want "horribly coded POS" so I gave you more to the best of my knowledge. That's where I'm going to let it stand as anything else would just be repeating myself. Talking about a 3 year old game doesn't really interest me anyways. Also like I said in my previous post, there are cards that will max the game out now. So I don't really see anything more that needs to be addressed here.

 

[ShRoOmAlIsTiC]

Did you just call me a Crysis fanboy after I specifically said "Not that I consider it a work of art or 'the best game ever,'...." The nicest comment I made about it was that I "like" it. It's far from my favorite game. Did you look at the link I posted previously, referring those hating on Crysis to posts by ctrain for an interesting perspective? ....

Your a Crysis Fanboy ADMIT IT!!

no i definitely didn't. I had issue with just "it's popular to hate crysis" - and didn't assume any further on your part.

I just took the opportunity to launch into my crysis diatribe...

You only hate it cause its Popular to hate it! ADMIT IT!!!


YOUR CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!

 

[Phxprovost]

it takes all kinds? that doesn't even make any sense! if you are really that bent on believing Crysis to be some masterfully coded piece of art than nothing will convince you otherwise...

as though we have even the slightest concern about convincing you...

it's rubbish. pretty, but poorly coded. there is no excuse for such low performance on such high end machines. no excuse what so ever! let's see your proof otherwise?

it never rains but it pours.... (see what i did there?)

it cant run on my pc so it must be poorly coded is the same bullshit i have been hearing for years now and it really just pisses me of when i hear it. No i personally don't like the game but no i don't think its "poorly coded". Want to see a poorly coded game? Ever hear of fallout 3? Don't get me wrong i love this game and honestly think its the best game to come out in the past ~5 years but the things i have personally experienced while playing through this game have yet to be surpassed by any game ive ever played. I have witnessed trader npcs spawn in rivers and just tread water while mirlurks try to attack them, death claws bounce thousands of feet into the air and come back down just to ricochet back up forever, dead bodies get stuck in doors and walls and proceed to seizure forever, npc's fall through floors while im in dialogue with them and i can watch them fall forever, enemy creatures run at me sideways half stuck in the ground, enemies fall through floors and get stuck in walls, enemies completely just disappearing while in fights, enemies completely disappearing once dead making me miss out on good loot, Centaurs doing what i could only describe as loosing all skeletal structure forming up into a giant spiky ball and flying around an area bouncing off of anything it hits, static objects like the cars in paradise falls start to seizure and then somehow bounce off of what they are sitting on and go rolling across the ground and then theres the cases of my character getting stuck in just about anything and everything thats not flat ground....

my point its theres a difference between being poorly coded and poorly optimized. fallout 3 is poorly coded while crysis is poorly optimized, learn the difference.

 

[digibucc]

holy wall of text i will not read...

just from the first sentence though - i never said i couldn't play it. I can. the fact that that is even a question points to how ridiculously UNOPTIMIZED the game is. which is a direct product of the poor quality coding that makes it.

 

[erocker]

my point its theres a difference between being poorly coded and poorly optimized. fallout 3 is poorly coded while crysis is poorly optimized, learn the difference.

Now I know... and knowing is half the battle.

 

[Phxprovost]

Now I know... and knowing is half the battle.

 

[erocker]

Give it a rest. Seriously, I'm not here to be at the ass end of your nuances. You state the difference between coding and optimization and I agree with you with my obvious lack of knowledge. Thanks so much. You win or whatever.

 

[Phxprovost]

Give it a rest. Seriously, I'm not here to be at the ass end of your nuances. You state the difference between coding and optimization and I agree with you with my obvious lack of knowledge. Thanks so much. You win or whatever.

i think your taking this to seriously, i was simply amused by your post cause it sounded like a psa

 

[ShRoOmAlIsTiC]

its actually the old gi joe quote, at the end of each ep they would do a little skit with a kid playing near something wrong and explain to them why its wrong.

Kids would say "Now I know!"
One of the Joes would say "And knowing is half the battle!"

 

[nt300]

We should stop at 1080p or at least make 1920 x 1080p & less the standard when making pc game. Most LCD monitors and HDTV cant do more than 1080p anyway unless you got a good CRT cube monitor for the PC. Then they can make game much better.

To max out Crysis with great FPS, I would say HD 6800 or Nvidia Fermi 2 in Crossfire/SLI