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New human species found in Philippines
There's a new addition to the family tree: an extinct species of human that's been found in the Philippines.
It's known as Homo luzonensis, after the site of its discovery on the country's largest island Luzon.
Its physical features are a mixture of those found in very ancient human ancestors and in more recent people.
That could mean primitive human relatives left Africa and made it all the way to South-East Asia, something not previously thought possible.
The find shows that human evolution in the region may have been a highly complicated affair, with three or more human species in the region at around the time our ancestors arrive
The new specimens from Callao Cave, in the north of Luzon, are described in the journal Nature. They have been dated to between 67,000 years and 50,000 years ago.
They consist of thirteen remains - teeth, hand and foot bones, as well as part of a femur - that belong to at least three adult and juvenile individuals. They have been recovered in excavations at the cave since 2007.
Homo luzonensis has some physical similarities to recent humans, but in other features hark back to the australopithecines, upright-walking ape-like creatures that lived in Africa between two and four million years ago, as well as very early members of the genus Homo.
The finger and toe bones are curved, suggesting climbing was still an important activity for this species. This also seems to have been the case for some australopithecines
 
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New human species found in Philippines
That could mean primitive human relatives left Africa and made it all the way to South-East Asia, something not previously thought possible.
Or it could mean aliens dropped them off, or that they originated in Asia and didn't migrate. :rolleyes:
 
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Or it could mean aliens dropped them off, or that they originated in Asia and didn't migrate. :rolleyes:
If you reject mainstream science and our pretty well studied lineage sure, I guess...
 
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Lol, mainstream science is like a flock of sheep, all following each other, don't dissent or they'll call you a heretic or witch.
 
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Lol, mainstream science is like a flock of sheep, all following each other, don't dissent or they'll call you a heretic or witch.
Not really (as science is one of the few fields not only providing documentation on how but why it is good to think for yourself) but I can tell you've already made up your mind, good luck with that.
 
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but I can tell you've already made up your mind, good luck with that.
If anything, I am very open minded and not convinced mankind originated solely in Africa, if it was possible there, why not elsewhere.
Until irrefutable proof is presented showing lineage and migration, I am open to mankind developing across the globe in differing birthplaces.
 
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If anything, I am very open minded and not convinced mankind originated solely in Africa, if it was possible there, why not elsewhere.
Because geographic isolation is what creates unique species. Human fossil records point our isolation event from whatever common anscestor to Africa. There is simply no way it could have happened elsewhere short of alien DNA engineering / drop offs because the anscestors would not be around to create us in their isolated region.

What you are theorizing is not impossible. However it is improbable on the same level as bigfoot, nessie, etc.

In short,

I am open to mankind developing across the globe in differing birthplaces.
Unless you don't believe in the very fundementals of evolution, or believe in aliens, this simply cannot be.
 
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Because geographic isolation is what creates unique species.
Unless you don't believe in the very fundementals of evolution, or believe in aliens, this simply cannot be.
As you already said, "geographic isolation is what creates unique species", this is evolution.
Species that have a common ancestor and have migrated, and adapted to their environment.
It doesn't explain new species that have no commonality to other known species and originate where they are found.
 
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It doesn't explain new species that have no commonality to other known species and originate where they are found.
No it doesn't. On the other hand, we haven't dug up even 1% of the fossil record and it's astounding what we have already sorted out.
 
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Evolution is a falsehood. Modern man only dates back about 4000 years to the very start of civilization

Every single "Lucy" has been debunked. Evolution was created in part by the forces of darkness and has hoodwinked many an intelligent man.
 
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The thing is that all those "ancestors" are looking a lot like each other, but a LOT different than humans. There is still missing that magical missing link.
Personally, I am agnostic, but also a critical thinker. I can't accept science at face value, not more that I can't accept religion at face value. There are "believers" in both camps.
I need to be convinced, and evolution has big holes in it.

Some of those holes were explained by Lyod Pye, just IMO, he really exaggerated justifying solely it by alien intervention, but the questions are very valid. There is no single human bone in the pre-historic fossil history. We need like a dozen "missing links" in between to work per evolutionary time scale... So actually, we couldn't evolve from pre-humans.
Towards the end you get his 48 versus 46 chromosomes take.

Watch the whole 2 hour video below before you argue anymore for evolution of humans:

 
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there has been a known foreign species for a long time, it is called "the AMD fanboy"
 
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Until irrefutable proof is presented showing lineage and migration,
besides the proof of DNA science, archeology, history...buy hey you are entitled to your opinion just not your own facts
 
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Lol, mainstream science is like a flock of sheep, all following each other, don't dissent or they'll call you a heretic or witch.
As a scientist who currently bucks the trend of the mainstream, I take exception to that statement...
 
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LoL it turned into a creationism clash :D
 
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LoL it turned into a creationism clash :D
Thing is, a basic unsolvable problem exists. And it exists in two parts;
1. Religion can not prove God exists.
2. Science can not prove God doesn't exist.

This kind of debate will continue endlessly.
 
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Thing is, a basic unsolvable problem exists. And it exists in two parts;
1. Religion can not prove God exists.
2. Science can not prove God doesn't exist.

This kind of debate will continue endlessly.
Thank you Mr Nutshell.
 
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Thank you Mr Nutshell.
You're welcome, always willing to help! :laugh: :roll:

That article has no citations. Additionally, I've done some research on "Lucy" and the skull in question was proportionally large enough for a modern human brain. However, I will agree that while "Lucy" gave a great deal of insight as to the development of humanity, "she" is not the missing link she is suggested to be.
 
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"Beliefs" and science do not mix.
If you do not understand that go back and learn some more.

This stuff is a theory, and as such all
evidence points to something and that something has been put to the test and as of yet cannot be disproven.

Religion is a belief that can easily be put down by science.
Religion is a "claim".
You cannot simply make a claim without evidence and then say it to be true just because it cannot be proven false.
 
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Not sure how we went to proving God's existance here, but it has very little to do with the topic.
 
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Disappointed....Thought they found a new type of human alive.....

Sounds like pure speculation.
Pretty much like everything else that someone "discovers"
 
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