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The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever

Do you think that the "global warming" crisis is a massive scandal?

  • Yes

  • Leaning towards yes, but not really sure

  • Not sure

  • Leaning towards no, but not really sure

  • No

  • I live under a rock and have never heard of this "global warming"


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So if we can capture the methane and burn it as fuel...
More likely is we can engineer the gut microbiome of the live stocks to reduce the output of methane.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00248-018-1234-9

Altering the gut microbiome of a cow is a lot easier and humane than genetically editing a cow. Plus those gut microbes won't make to our dinner plate so it is also easier for the general public to accept. My current lab had some old collaborations that looked into establishing a healtheir microbial composition for livestock to achieve both lower methane output as well as higher diet-->protein conversion rate.

Microbes are truly amazing creatures. They are the main inhabitant of the deep surface biosphere. They are THE major reservoir of earth's biologically available Carbon pool. These microbes can soak up more GHG than any thing we human has ever come up with.


 
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https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/key-greenland-glacier-growing-again-after-shrinking-years-nasa-study-ncna987116

glacier is growing... scientists say they were surprised by new NASA data. LOL

global warming fake news bruh

@jboydgolfer enjoy
Didn't read it?
University of Washington ice scientist Ian Joughin, who wasn’t part of the study and predicted such a change seven years ago, said it would be a “grave mistake” to interpret the latest data as contradicting climate change science.

What’s happening, Joughin said, is “to a large extent, a temporary blip. Downturns do occur in the stock market, but overall the long term trajectory is up. This is really the same thing.”
Weather (including solar) impacts the short term but long term trends make climate. The oceans are holding more energy than they did previously and that influences climate in the direction of warming. On the other hands, the scale of the oceans cause them to be mediators rather than quickly reactive like weather.
 
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Also keep in mind that Chinese have very little individual freedoms and Xi Jinping (whom you praised) has been crushing what little they have gained under Hu Jintao and Jiang Zemin.
Yes, I agree with you for once Ford. However for the same reason I highly doubt strategic waste is going to pose much of an issue (to leadership).

Didn't read it?

Weather (including solar) impacts the short term but long term trends make climate. The oceans are holding more energy than they did previously and that influences climate in the direction of warming. On the other hands, the scale of the oceans cause them to be mediators rather than quickly reactive like weather.
Don't let science detract from rhetoric ford. That'd suck the will to post out of the uneducated masses.

It's Climate Change, not warming. ;)
I mean, it always has been to anyone with half a care into the issue.
 

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You're right. If Communist Party says there will be a strategic waste facility in a specific location, there will be a strategic waste facility there. It's not like Yucca mountain where you get enough protestors and lawsuits then the idea falls through.

My point was more that China's nuclear program hasn't been challenged yet. They haven't had a level 7 disaster like Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, nor Fukashima. If they have a disaster, the Communist Party may not be able to keep the NIMBY factor in check.
 
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I could care less either way to be honest, humans are a mistake of evolution from my observations.
 
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I could care less either way to be honest, humans are a mistake of evolution from my observations.
I don't agree. We are what nature's best offer thanks to billions years of evolution. We as a species need to keep growing and evolving.
 

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I could care less either way to be honest, humans are a mistake of evolution from my observations.
Homo floresiensis = Failure extinct
Homo neanderthalensis = Failure extinct
Homo heidelbergensis = Failure extinct
Homo ergaster = Failure extinct
Homo Simpsonis
= Failure extinct
Homo sapiens = Success ( under Review ) not extinct

So Far the failure's of the past have contributed to our current status of successful (under review) :)
 
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Homo floresiensis = Failure extinct
Homo neanderthalensis = Failure extinct
Homo heidelbergensis = Failure extinct
Homo ergaster = Failure extinct
Homo Simpsonis
= Failure extinct
Homo sapiens = Success ( under Review ) not extinct

So Far the failure's of the past have contributed to our current status of successful (under review) :)
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Homo floresiensis = Failure extinct
Homo neanderthalensis = Failure extinct
Homo heidelbergensis = Failure extinct
Homo ergaster = Failure extinct
Homo Simpsonis
= Failure extinct
Homo sapiens = Success ( under Review ) not extinct

So Far the failure's of the past have contributed to our current status of successful (under review) :)
still don't care, all depends on your understanding of time. all species go eventually. its a wonderful cycle. i mean technically we have only had civilisation for 10k years... that's like nothing.
 
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Homo floresiensis = Failure extinct
Homo neanderthalensis = Failure extinct
Homo heidelbergensis = Failure extinct
Homo ergaster = Failure extinct

Homo sapiens = Success ( under Review ) not extinct
Pretty sure the only reason other species of humans haven't survived is due to the proliferation of Homo Sapiens.
To cite a line or two from a movie: Mankind is - "A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."
That doesn't mean the other types you mentioned are failures, just that they were overrun by sheer numbers alone, and failed to survive .
 
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I don't agree. We are what nature's best offer thanks to billions years of evolution. We as a species need to keep growing and evolving.
We aren't even the most populous species. Nor the longest enduring... It's easy to be number one when you pick the gauge I know, but I'd say that's highly disputable. Personally (and in no way tied into my frog persona I assure you) I think we have a lot we can learn from other species, both in genetic tech and general intelligence.
 
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We aren't even the most populous species. Nor the longest enduring... It's easy to be number one when you pick the gauge I know, but I'd say that's highly disputable. Personally (and in no way tied into my frog persona I assure you) I think we have a lot we can learn from other species, both in genetic tech and general intelligence.
frogs rule all! :rockout:
 

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Pretty sure the only reason other species of humans haven't survived is due to the proliferation of Homo Sapiens.
When Sapiens and Neanderthals co-existed, both were nomadic.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-neanderthalensis
In fact, Neanderthals and modern humans may have had little direct interaction for tens of thousands of years until during one very cold period, modern humans spread across Europe. Their presence may have prevented Neanderthals from expanding back into areas they once favored and served as a catalyst for the Neanderthal’s impending extinction. Over just a few thousand years after modern humans moved into Europe, Neanderthal numbers dwindled to the point of extinction. All traces of Neanderthals disappeared by about 40,000 years ago. The most recently dated Neanderthal fossils come from western Europe, which was likely where the last population of this early human species existed.

Back on topic: Untangling Methane Sources
Based on data from five days’ worth of measurements in 2015, the team found oil and natural gas operations were responsible for most of the methane produced in the Denver-Julesburg Basin, with agricultural sources providing an important but minor source.

The study also uncovered some baffling observations that will require further exploration: for example, when methane concentrations are very low, the agricultural sources are relatively more significant.
 
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