The I can't stop talking about MW2 thread.

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

Let's face it. This has nothing to do with lazy devs.
The console market is huge compared to the PC market. Anyone with good business sense is going to cater to the market that brings them in the most revenue.

You can fuss all you want, and trash the people who like console games, but the truth is that in order to stay a viable company you have to follow the money.

Also, MailMan's comment is no more odd than usual.

I dont have anything against consoles, their games, their controllers, or their users. I just like to talk trash about anything related to IW and their blatant attempt to alienate PC gamers. They can't control piracy so they play scorched earth to the PC market that did enjoy their products.

 

[Binge]

The only reason the console market is larger than the PC market is MARKETING. Advertising is just something you don't see for gaming PCs, and people who make PCs don't want to make a cost effective solution for gaming and then market the games. Microsoft funnels truckloads of $$$ into advertising on cartoon network and other cable channels for kids. Kids cry because the big 3D sphere with an X in it told them to buy the latest and greatest and parents GLADLY oblige.

 

[Sir_Real]

Loads of people still play games on the PC. This has everything to do with them taking away a VAST amount of PC support to make a quick buck on the backs of console gamers. The fact that they are too lazy to even put the effort in to make the PC game better, which it would be if they tried, is just a trend in developers currently and most probably into the foreseeable future. Mailman constantly states this bit until he is blue in the face and no one listens

PC market is "shrinking" because developers are being too lazy to make the games for them.

Ok but even if the pc version did have dedi servers & had lived up to the hype, what would that pushed the pc version sales upto? 5 or 6% maybe !

I agree pc gaming is shrinking & its going to get worse. As much as ATI & Nvidia try & push there new hardware the lack of pc game sales is going to be a real prob. PC gamin is to expensive & to much hassel for most.

 

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

The only reason the console market is larger than the PC market is MARKETING. Advertising is just something you don't see for gaming PCs, and people who make PCs don't want to make a cost effective solution for gaming and then market the games. Microsoft funnels truckloads of $$$ into advertising on cartoon network and other cable channels for kids. Kids cry because the big 3D sphere with an X in it told them to buy the latest and greatest and parents GLADLY oblige.

Good point but I dont think marketing alone makes the total difference. Consoles are just easier to live with without the need to upgrade, patch, or modify. Plug and Play in the truest sense of the term and it will always win over the masses.

 

[WhiteLotus]

Ok but even if the pc version did have dedi servers & had lived up to the hype, what would that pushed the pc version sales upto? 5 or 6% maybe !

I agree pc gaming is shrinking & its going to get worse. As much as ATI & Nvidia try & push there new hardware the lack of pc game sales is going to be a real prob. PC gamin is to expensive & to much hassel for most.

Not really no - it just so happens to be that most PC gamers like to brag about how many frames per second they can get - by that i mean they "like" to fork out a silly amount of money on the latest cards to play the latest games.

PC gaming is "shrinking", games just aren't what they used to be. In this case people spending a silly amount of money to play for 5-6 hours and then go online to have some fun. Give me Oblivion (or any game that was made for the PC to enjoy a vast time on single player) from yesteryear and i'm happy.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Ok but even if the pc version did have dedi servers & had lived up to the hype, what would that pushed the pc version sales upto? 5 or 6% maybe !

I agree pc gaming is shrinking & its going to get worse. As much as ATI & Nvidia try & push there new hardware the lack of pc game sales is going to be a real prob. PC gamin is to expensive & to much hassel for most.

I laugh every time I hear "The PC market is shrinking! Run for the hills!". Just ONCE I would like them to include digital downloads in the sales returns. I'm willing to bet my rig the PC market is just as big if not bigger than all the consoles combined in buying power IF they included this info. I mean I own 66+ games via digital download and not one of them have ever been counted in any damn report.

 

[WhiteLotus]

I laugh every time I hear "The PC market is shrinking! Run for the hills!". Just ONCE I would like them to include digital downloads in the sales returns. I'm willing to bet my rig the PC market is just as big if not bigger than all the consoles combined in buying power IF they included this info. I mean I own 66+ games via digital download and not one of them have ever been counted in any damn report.

This is also true, Steam has boosted gaming a lot.

By "shrinking" i do mean that the games that are being brought out for the PC market are just ported console games. I want a PC game dammit!

 

[Easy Rhino]

i agree with MilkyWay, it seems like us PC folks did actually stick with the boycott. imagine if activision did actually support dedicated servers and mods for the PC, i bet they would have made another $35 million in sales.

 

[Binge]

i agree with MilkyWay, it seems like us PC folks did actually stick with the boycott. imagine if activision did actually support dedicated servers and mods for the PC, i bet they would have had made another $35 million in sales.

+1

 

[Sir_Real]

I laugh every time I hear "The PC market is shrinking! Run for the hills!". Just ONCE I would like them to include digital downloads in the sales returns. I'm willing to bet my rig the PC market is just as big if not bigger than all the consoles combined in buying power IF they included this info. I mean I own 66+ games via digital download and not one of them have ever been counted in any damn report.

Thats crap man ! The pc games market is tiny compared to the consoles.

 

[exodusprime1337]

to be completely honest, i play mmo's more often then any other game, i picked up mw2 having never even read about the no dedicated servers crap, was surprised that they're weren't any, and just logged in and played. I think everyone is a bit overcritical about no dedicated servers. I know in WaW and mw myself snipe and jmcslob would play from time to time on the same server, but other than that, i just used the server that worked.

I honestly find mw2 to be an incredible game, and i think that support of the game gets better results than boycotting it. To the dev teams and higherups at IW this just means they make no money off pc sales and might very well drop it all together in the next series.

Honesltly no dedicated servers aside, the game is quite fun to play on the pc.

 

[WhiteLotus]

i agree with MilkyWay, it seems like us PC folks did actually stick with the boycott. imagine if activision did actually support dedicated servers and mods for the PC, i bet they would have made another $35 million in sales.

How many people did sign up to that petition?

 

[Binge]

to be completely honest, i play mmo's more often then any other game, i picked up mw2 having never even read about the no dedicated servers crap, was surprised that they're weren't any, and just logged in and played. I think everyone is a bit overcritical about no dedicated servers. I know in WaW and mw myself snipe and jmcslob would play from time to time on the same server, but other than that, i just used the server that worked.

I honestly find mw2 to be an incredible game, and i think that support of the game gets better results than boycotting it. To the dev teams and higherups at IW this just means they make no money off pc sales and might very well drop it all together in the next series.

Honesltly no dedicated servers aside, the game is quite fun to play on the pc.

I JUST had an aneurysm.

 

[Easy Rhino]

i wonder if there will be any blowback from activision's treatment of pc gamers. if this is their strategy from now on it looks like we are going to have to organize some sort of boycott. pc gamers in general are far more serious about gaming than console douchebags and we spend more money on our rigs to play the games as they were intended by the developer, not some watered down graphics with clumsy gamepad controls where the game gives you double the ammo to make up for your piss poor aim

 

[WhiteLotus]

where the game gives you double the ammo to make up for your piss poor aim

This true? :shadedshu

 

[Binge]

It is most definitely true. Watch competition videos for COD4 console vs PC, and you'll notice 2x ammo being used at least for every kill.

 

[Easy Rhino]

This true? :shadedshu

yea man, just fire up any console fps and look

 

[shevanel]

i doubt there will be another iw game for pc..

but there will always be someone who is willing to make games for pc...

ive never been a big fan of any of the cod series, so i won't miss them.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Thats crap man ! The pc games market is tiny compared to the consoles.

You're so lost.

 

[exodusprime1337]

I JUST had an aneurysm.

i'm very sorry about your aneurysm

 

[niko084]

The SP is currently rocking my socks thank you very much

$$ / sock rocking, worth it?

The biggest FPS FAIL since well... I don't know of a worse planned game.

 

[Kreij]

Even though 220K+ people signed the petition, MW2 still outsold MW in the first week (on the PC platform).

Activision CEO Mike Griffiths later said that it was watching the surfacing negative comments carefully but added "we're not overly concerned about it."

They are making money like mad on this one. I don't think they are too worried about the petitioners.

 

[TheMailMan78]

 

[Kreij]

Thanks MM, I LOL'd on that one.

 

[niko084]

I don't think we need to have PC - Console arguments..

They are very different creatures currently.
Personally I'll take my pc over any console any day of the week, some people look at it the other way.

Look at the marketing edge of consoles, pc for games, they are not all over the tv, you don't see live tv ads for alienware, and they certainly don't cost $1500+.

Where a computer is there is a chance for a hack, it's equally possible for the console, problem being nobody has gone through the trouble to do it because it's well probably a lot harder.

Either case, I'm not buying this game, not even if they fix it. Simply because I'm going to make sure I am one of the ones that tell them off for not listening to the customers wants in the first place, if more people did it, they would do one of two things, go out of business or create a better product.

Mailmans got it right!