The official Q9300,Q9450, Q9550 thread

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Thats a Q9550 not a Q9450

That explains why then.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

i think the 45nm chip clock for cock will slightly outperform the 65nm chip.. and it has to run cooler with less voltage and less leakage..

trog

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Well, I took the plunge. I bought the Xeon X3350 2.66GHz with 12MB L2 cache. Will be here early next week.

What clock for clock speeds would you guys like to see in comparison with my Q6600 B3? In fact dont asnwer that here. I will make a separate thread for that and link to it here.

Operation Yorkfield Is Underway

 

[Thompson5439]

So far not impressed with this Q9450 on a MSI 750i motherboard. Any changes to FSB show up in the BIOS but not in windows. Then any CPU stress and system freezes, that is even changing FSB by 5 mhz. I have tried various voltages for cpu and NB. I have tested all BIOS versions from 1.0 -2.0, power supply is good because it run a X6800 overclocked with no problems on this motherboard.:shadedshu

 

[trt740]

Thanks for posting keep us updated

 

[Viperz]

If anyone can help me find the 9450 (either OEM or retail; OEM preferred since I wont be using stock cooling anyway), I will buy it and when I get it, will throw it in my DFI x38 board and see how high she'll go.

http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/product.php?productid=18044&cat=419&page=1

Currently on limited stock for $379 ~ retail box with 3yr wty.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

http://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/product.php?productid=18044&cat=419&page=1

Currently on limited stock for $379 ~ retail box with 3yr wty.

Got an X3350 from Amazon for about $20 less. Will be here tomorrow.

Thanks though.

 

[Duffman]

damn, the x3350 is up to $420 on Amazon

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Out of stock now.

 

[Thompson5439]

Well, I have made some progrss. overclocking my Q9450.
I was not aware of the FSB hole issue but that was what I ran into.
I found that if I leave my memory in linked that all my over clocks work. Currently I am up to 352 FSB which is 3.0 GHz and stable. I hope to get a stable 3.2 after a few days. That will put my memory back at 800, I believe.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Mine will be here shortly.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

It has an 8x multi. What i find weird is that in my BIOS, if I mess with an option below it (can think of it off hand) the multi changes to 8.5x. But whenever i move up or down it changes back to 8x again.

 

[Mussels]

sounds like you need a bios update to fully support the half multis.

 

[asb2106]

whats the multi on the q9550? Im looking for a 9x or higher multi on a new 45nm quad. Id like to avoid going EE if I could, also, is there a xeon part with a 9 multi??

 

[trt740]

whats the multi on the q9550? Im looking for a 9x or higher multi on a new 45nm quad. Id like to avoid going EE if I could, also, is there a xeon part with a 9 multi??

it's a 8.5 multipler

 

[asb2106]

it's a 8.5 multipler

Ok, so the q9650(non extreme) when it comes out will be the 9x part then??

 

[trt740]

Ok, so the q9650(non extreme) when it comes out will be the 9x part then??

not sure it will come out anytime soon the Qx9650 new stepping will.

 

[asb2106]

not sure it will come out anytime soon the Qx9650 new stepping will.

Ok, well ? then, I have a q6600, I like it, it works good. I get a stable 3.8 out of it. Would I benefit from a new 45nm quad?

I want to get a higher multi to give me some better clocks. But going with a 8 or 8.5 multi I dont see my OCs getting much higher. and getting a 8.5 multi is almost 600 bucks. the 9450 isnt much better either.....

I think I might just have to get a EE to really see a big difference

 

[Mussels]

Ok, well ? then, I have a q6600, I like it, it works good. I get a stable 3.8 out of it. Would I benefit from a new 45nm quad?

I want to get a higher multi to give me some better clocks. But going with a 8 or 8.5 multi I dont see my OCs getting much higher. and getting a 8.5 multi is almost 600 bucks. the 9450 isnt much better either.....

I think I might just have to get a EE to really see a big difference

i'm in the same boat, i'm going to wait a generation for yorkfield. i'm video card limited at the moment even with a GTX i nmost games, so theres no point getting a faster CPU for gaming - and as the more intensive games come out and use more cores, it shouldnt hold me back either.

 

[edro]

I have a q6600, I like it, it works good. I get a stable 3.8 out of it. Would I benefit from a new 45nm quad?

Although this isn't a Q6600 v. Q9xxx thread please allow me to comment on this point.

I've been reading many of the Q6600 v. Q9xxx threads and I've come to a personal conclusion. That is "to each his own." May I elaborate just a little?

The Q6600 will, I think, go down in history as one of the best cost per cycle of quad cores (or whatever measurement). It is a real killer, a great OC-er for a quad, an all round great processor and, except for the extreme processors, none of the q9450 or q9550 or q9300 are gonna beat it for jobs like OC-folding, or even for gaming although many of the dual cores are considered even better for gaming. (I disagree. Most games are more limited by the GPU, not the CPU, but I digress.)

But the q9[45]50 will both have their place in the pre-nehalem historical record.

Some people, (such as myself), have different priorities. Mine include quiet, low heat, low power, and then quad speed. The q9450 (still on backorder at BLT) will be the piece de resistance of my compters. It will literally be by my bedside 24x7. (I'm disabled so I'm not able to get out of bed easily. This new tower build will replace my ailing 5 year old notebook P4. New flat panel, wireless keyboard and mouse, and I'll be all set..once I get the q9450 shipped!)

If I already owned a q6600 I would NOT spring for an upgrade to a q9300, q9450, or q9550. That's just IMO.

For a new build and with my set of priorities, then the q9450 (or 9550) will be the right and best thing. For me. IMO. To each his own.

Please overlook any lack of netiquette on my part. I'm still relatively new to these forums and trying to keep up with everything I've got (whatever brain cells that are left).

Thanks,
Edro

 

[edro]

i'm video card limited at the moment

Ah, Mussels, I don't type very fast.. Yep. If I were a gamer I probably would go dual core, make it run fast, and get a dual GPU card. If I were folding then I'd go for the q6600. But if I want quiet/low power/low heat and video editing/encoding then the q9x50 would be what I want if I'm buying now and can't wait for yorkie.

Edro

 

[Mussels]

Ah, Mussels, I don't type very fast.. Yep. If I were a gamer I probably would go dual core, make it run fast, and get a dual GPU card. If I were folding then I'd go for the q6600. But if I want quiet/low power/low heat and video editing/encoding then the q9x50 would be what I want if I'm buying now and can't wait for yorkie.

Edro

my idea was this: a Q6600 at 3.6GHz is the same as any other core 2 chip at 3.6GHz. Yes the 45's will have a slight lead, but its not that much (my fast ram can help make up for that)

So until a 3.6GHz dual is no longer enough i'm fine - and hopefully apps will be more quad core capable, so i'll have the other two cores to last me even longer. I plan to wait on either yorkfield or nehalem.

Buying new is one thing, but hey - dont forget my Q6600 is silent at these clocks my samsung HDD's are the loudest thing in my PC, and they're some of the quietest drives on the market.

 

[asb2106]

Although this isn't a Q6600 v. Q9xxx thread please allow me to comment on this point.

I've been reading many of the Q6600 v. Q9xxx threads and I've come to a personal conclusion. That is "to each his own." May I elaborate just a little?

The Q6600 will, I think, go down in history as one of the best cost per cycle of quad cores (or whatever measurement). It is a real killer, a great OC-er for a quad, an all round great processor and, except for the extreme processors, none of the q9450 or q9550 or q9300 are gonna beat it for jobs like OC-folding, or even for gaming although many of the dual cores are considered even better for gaming. (I disagree. Most games are more limited by the GPU, not the CPU, but I digress.)

But the q9[45]50 will both have their place in the pre-nehalem historical record.

Some people, (such as myself), have different priorities. Mine include quiet, low heat, low power, and then quad speed. The q9450 (still on backorder at BLT) will be the piece de resistance of my compters. It will literally be by my bedside 24x7. (I'm disabled so I'm not able to get out of bed easily. This new tower build will replace my ailing 5 year old notebook P4. New flat panel, wireless keyboard and mouse, and I'll be all set..once I get the q9450 shipped!)

If I already owned a q6600 I would spring for an upgrade to a q9300, q9450, or q9550. That's just IMO.

For a new build and with my set of priorities, then the q9450 (or 9550) will be the right and best thing. For me. IMO. To each his own.

Please overlook any lack of netiquette on my part. I'm still relatively new to these forums and trying to keep up with everything I've got (whatever brain cells that are left).

Thanks,
Edro

Edro, I thank you for your input, I do agree with completely.

Now so you know, I run SETI 24/7 and I game as often as I can. I go for silence, but i do that with water cooling, and low RPM fans with a fan controller. My computer is virtually silent with the setup I have, and then the core temps are about 60. Thats at 3.7. For benching and what not I bump up to 3.85, temps around 65 on cores.

I also have a crossfire 3870 setup for video. Both are water cooled also. I think I am gonna stick with the q6600 for a little while longer

Sorry to all if this is the wrong thread for these comments

 

[edro]

but hey - dont forget my Q6600 is silent at these clocks my samsung HDD's are the loudest thing in my PC, and they're some of the quietest drives on the market.

Hmmm. I just got (4) of the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750gb drives for my build (to be in a RAID 5 for my data) based on the reviews that they were quiet. Maybe I need to put them somewhere else in a disk farm setup somewhere else and use them via gigabit ethernet so I don't have to hear them.

But back to the q9x50.

I am so very tired of waiting for my new q9450 processor.

BLT just sent me an email in which they say, "You are doing the best thing possible by keeping your order in place, which secures your place in line." They are great to deal with and it isn't their fault, I don't think, that Intel can't keep up with orders.

They also said, "Currently, all ETA's from the manufacturer are past due, however we have requested an update and will provide you with the manufacturer's response when available." But that might just be a canned notification on the delayed shipment. It WAS due to be shipped 3/31.

(I'm looking for a smilie of "pulling hair out" but the little fellas don't seem to have any hair.)

<- found an appropriate one..

I pre-ordered from BLT before they raised their price. So my pre-order price is less than the MicroCenter price AND if I order from MicroCenter then I'll have to pay tax on top of it all.



Edro

 

[Mussels]

the 500's are silent, i have only got my first 750 today so i havent heard it - mine are also in a vibration damepning case in a P150... so yeah, silent

While these new chips may run colder, you need a higher FSB which means more heat/cooling on the mobo and ram side of things... its quite a balancing act.