Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by qubit, Oct 26, 2011.
Keep the info coming. I don't have on myself but I sure am learning. Good info ED.
There used to be a time when you needed to know what was on the board in order to be able to overclock. The most notorious example I can think of is the Intel XBX1...changes in VRM design and different PLLs used in revisions meant certain boards were better for extreme clocking than others. But today's products take alot of the mystery out of it, so that isn't so much of a concern any more. X79 adds options in buckets that can be confusing.
I haven't been reading raja's guides yet..he does put out some good ones. I don't think I'll get another chip, and I'm hoping that I won't have the time for doing anything extreme with X79 yet. Once IvyBridge launches and I get a chip I can blow up some older 1155 stuff though. Not like 1155 is all that fun, anyway. Set multi, volts, go.
As for now i have tested several X79 mobos and i can say only one thing
God bless you Asrock!
Bugger. No AsRock love for me yet.
Got more info on that then?
bump to find this later
Sure, during testing for... uhh... some website i cannot really mention
i have tested serveral X79 motherboards and i found the asrock extreme4 to be the best overclocker by a fair amount over boards like the UD5 and the GD65
squizing 4.7Ghz with the stock watercooling kit was an easy mission
I do not have any expirience with asus motherboards but i can only imagine they are as good as the asrock if not better
UD5 - i couldnot get 4.4Ghz whatsoever
GD65 - 4.6 was possible, 4.7 was kinda hard
intel DX79 - meh, shity bios. 4.5Ghz was reachable
I've got my cpu up to 4.8Ghz on my R4E but temps are to high underload because i only have the 2 fan pushing air though my H100 so i just run 4.25Ghz which is fine for what i use it for.
Well dont compere the Asrock extreme4 to a mobo that costs thrice as much
If the maximum clock u can squeeze is 100mhz of a differance, then F me ill buy the asrock any day.
ASRock X79 Extreme4 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s ...
We'll have to have a chat some time. My "foray" into SB-E has been very similar, it seems, but no AsRock products here.
I only have expirience with the EXTREME4, not with EXTREME9 (aka "Overclock king") motherboard, but sure. If only erocker's ts server would be up and running...
erocker canned that some time ago. There's a BF3 TS.
And yeah, I realize it's not the topdog AsRock board, so it's odd, to me. I mean, the best I can tell, it's VRM cooling that's key, but your info says maybe it's soemthing else.
I have run into similar with 2 boards only hitting 4.4 GHz, the third does 4.6 GHz.
Of course, I'm aircooling though...are you using water? Might explain things.
THe only other thing is the two slow boards have a heatpipe joining the SB and the VRM cooler...the fast board does not.
For your UD5, if you haven't tried, use 1000kHz VRM. If you did, and we are at the same limits, I'd say perhaps a BIOS update is needed there. I'll be working on the review later this week, but that's kinda my conclusion on that situation.
hmm u say 1000kHz for the VRMs. thing is that i achived these results only by a quick settings of the Vcore, no fine-tuning of things like VRM frequency and PLL voltages.
The cooling i use is Asetek's 3960X water-cooling kit (similar to antec's 620 Khuler)
i wont lie, the VRMs of the mobo went high-temp and i wanted to eliminate any limitation by heat so i have placed a fan over it (testbench). I also tried bulldozer's watercooling (Asetek's 920)
U gotta see the glowing FX logo on a X79 mobo, quite funny.
LuL, yeah I got my FX cooler on my G1.Sniper2. Made the FX logo green to match. I never thought to put it on my 2011..how'd you mount it?
And yeah, UD5, it really needed the VRM frequency change. Nothing else...Mind you loadline on that board is pretty screwy too, so if you keep that in mind, it makes dealing with the board easier.
i just used 2011's mounting ring for the block, nothing else.
Ill try the UD5's VRM frequency change, im really crossing my fingers this will work
it will make the UD5 the best cantidate for making it into being the testbench's mobo for
other product reviews (like some very interesting graphics cards trollface.jpg)
Ah, you mentioning you have teh 3960X cooler didn't clue me in. I have no such ring yet...will have to get one.
We'll have to chat at some point...but for right now, I gots to run my son to school. Until then!
Tried the extreme overclocking tool from AI suite II (yeah, i know it's cheating).
Might re-seat my block as one core (0) was at 72 degress but the rest where between 55 and 65 degrees. Haven't ran this using any stress test but from what i hear the Asus utility is rock solid.
Scored this http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2379719
For my CPU, the ASUS utility sets votlage too high, and then temperature gets in the way. I so need a better cooler.
1.42~V is a line im not crossing. As i said, i was able to achive 4700Mhz using around 1.372V on the asrock
Thats incredible voltage for those clocks with all cores/threads.
As far as the limits you guys are seeing. It is cooling limited. I hit a HARD wall with a UD7 at 4.494Ghz with custom water loop (PA120.2 + MCR320). Temps didnt break 70C, which is fine, but I couldnt break that number on the UD7 until I went 'sort of' cold. I put it under a woefully undepowered SS and got to 5.2Ghz.
As far as the Asrock, I have the Extreme4-M and getting the Extreme4. That VRM heatsink gets HOT even on stock speeds so that thing needs some direct cooling to push high clocks.
Even a super-low RPM fan will make those heatsinks cool, no need to go fancy on those fans
True. But still, why should I have to do this at STOCK speeds? I mean that thing is HOT to the touch.. (mounted properly and getting great contact).
Well, I didn't ran into this problem at all, on stock speeds they were warm yes, but not hot to the touch (ambient around 22C)
Did you have IES enabled on the board by chance? If that is enabled, and the VRM use 'throttles' with load, they are cooler. However I leave it disabled so its using all 6 phases regardless.
Bleh to you guys and your AsRock boards.
I wanna play with that UD7, too. I really like the new BIOS from Gigabyte, but I suspect the tiny VRM cooler on the UD5 affected my clocks. Looks-wise, having that DFi-like feel is pure win, for me.
I also have the MSI X79A-GD65 8D, falls kinda between them. good mobo IMO
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