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Long time no post , here are a few of my recent shots






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I am using Photoshop to stack. It does a really good job at aligning handheld stacks , when I use my automated rail I switch to using Zerene stacker. Handheld stacking is an art , you see through the viewfinder where your focus point is and ever so slightly rock back and forward through the range of the subject whilst grabbing slices for a stack.
Handheld stacking? You're a madman o_O "An art," he says. Oh, is that all? So what you're telling me is I just gotta feel it?

Naw, seriously though I cannot even comprehend the frustration factor on the way to being able to hand-hold focus stacked shots and actually have it come out. I only wish my hands were that steady. What a handy skill to have, though! Such a simple thing in practice, but not easy. I barely muster a 3-exposure HDR handheld.
 
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Lol, here it is though for real this time:

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Handheld stacking? You're a madman o_O "An art," he says. Oh, is that all? So what you're telling me is I just gotta feel it?

Naw, seriously though I cannot even comprehend the frustration factor on the way to being able to hand-hold focus stacked shots and actually have it come out. I only wish my hands were that steady. What a handy skill to have, though! Such a simple thing in practice, but not easy. I barely muster a 3-exposure HDR handheld.

My hands are far from steady!! The flash freezes the motion. I have practised a lot maybe that is the key haha


Here is another shot. I plan to do a whole series of these and maybe release a book at some stage.
 
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Hey this is cool , my work featured on Fro Knows Photo with very positive reaction. 38:46 is where its at.

 
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Hey this is cool , my work featured on Fro Knows Photo with very positive reaction. 38:46 is where its at.

I don't always like Fro, but he... does... "know photo." :oops:

Okay... sorry I will berate myself for that on my time. But for real that's a pretty high honor... he's hard to please. I could give him my personal bests and I'm sure he'd call them snapshots and point out all of the things terribly wrong before making them b&w and being like "Yeah, no. Sorry... still not feelin' it. This just is not very good. NOT a good shot. Try harder next time!" Taste aside he does know his stuff, but my god is he brutal sometimes! You dodged a bullet when he gushed over it! But you definitely deserved it for that photo... it's one of the better ones I've seen on his critique runs. Cheers for that, dude.


Meanwhile I'm still floundering along with my Canon M5. I've quickly come to love this camera. I've also realized I can never go back to DSLR's. The AF capabilities and ease of use are just too good. I look through the viewfinder unless I absolutely can't and there's no guesswork on the exposure, WB, or metering. I leave it on continuous focus and just slide the focus point around with my thumb, eye to the EVF at all times, where I can see everything I'm doing with the dials. The AF is so quick and accurate, I mostly rely on the continuous and it just works.

Makes everything so easy... like, without thought. A major theme I see in most of the photos I don't share is that my composition is off... and then I think back on all of the futzing I had to do to get everything else right. I pretty much only stick everything on a tripod in a controlled environment. That is to say I do understand how everything works. But putting the rubber to the road when it's do or die is a bitch. Now, you could argue that some things only come with skill. Pro and icons mastered focus-recompose and learned to see the exposure against what the viewfinder showed, but why do that if you don't have to? What is the real benefit? To me, it's like, I know I could nail those things down in time, but I'd never like having to jump through extra hoops. It means I have to stop and focus on something other than the art in the subject. There's another problem. Abstract the concept of skill in operating the camera to the manual focus days. People like to bring up how the most beloved photographers ever only had manual focus and they made it work, so you don't need fancy features. Sure, they did! But if you look closely, they missed focus! A LOT! The more your gear can handle for you without getting in the way of whatever result you ultimately want, the better. There's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make you less of a photographer. And it will always make your photos better, whether you're already good or not.

That actually really bothers me. When people say gear doesn't matter I want to slap them silly. Of course it fucking matters! It matters a whole lot! Better tools means more work done in less time with a better chance at a quality result, in anything, really. The best camera is the one you have with you. But if the camera you have with you sucks, you're still gonna have a lot of bad times. That saying is another way of saying "Welp, its better than nothing!" Any camera is better than no camera, of course. But what does that even mean? How much better is it?

So I am all for anything that makes it easier for me to more efficiently and consistently get better pictures. Mirrorless is superior in a few key ways. One day, I'm betting they will render certain DSLR-centric operating techniques obsolete, just like AF eventually all but replaced MF. I'm okay with never having to guess my exposure, move the limited number of AF points with slow/imprecise freaking buttons/pads, pull away from the scene to navigate cumbersome menus, or focus-recompose ever again, if possible! What's that you say? I can? AND it fits in a 50% smaller bag? And it's a better value for the features?! Seriously, though. If I didn't have the T3I from way back when, I never would have bought a DSLR, let alone lenses for one.

Best of all worlds the way I'm rolling now. I've got the half-shutter on AE lock, so I can meter anywhere I want before swinging over to my focus point. And then I can use the back button to lock-in with one-shot focus when absolutely necessary. Basically, it's like regular back button, but sort of reversed in a hold-toggle config. Quick and practical, if god forbid I ever want to focus-recompose. Right below that is a button assigned to toggle servo-mode to the back button for when I want to catch something moving with the camera still or I'm following something moving consistently. Near that is a toggle that cycles through subject/face tracking, "adaptive" tracking, and regular AF. The tracking is insane, btw. Maybe not as fast as Sony's latest, but extremely smart and accurate... very hard to throw off, even when subjects leave and re-enter the frame. Killer for stills of moving subjects.

And if I want to be really precise on a tripod, I can press the center focus button below back-button and flick the blank dial to switch over to full-time, small-box, single focus w/o continuous. Repeat the action and it goes back to how I have it set. So it's all right there, no matter what my focusing needs are. Brilliant. Couple really good AF with easy controls and you've got me. It's something I've never had before and now I'm wondering how I ever got by without it. Completely changes how I shoot in the best ways. I can get shots I would never think to let alone try to get. Now, I get them easily.

I'm eventually going to ditch the t3i and my ef-s lenses. The only one I'll keep is the nifty-fifty, as it's a great ~85mm equivalent for portraits - at f/2 you get awesome background separation with a slight soft-focus effect... without sacrificing color, contrast, or real sharpness. No EF-M substitute for that. The 24mm is nice, but it's always either too wide or not wide enough. I picked up the 32mm ef-m f/1.4 to replace it. It was pricey but man, was it worth it! I'll never touch that 24mm again. The IQ and AF performance are amazingly good and the build is so solid. It's really the perfect all-purpose - a quality, fast lens with a moderate 51mm equivalent focal length. Makes the whole kit for me, tbh. It's a legit combo.

I'm going in on the M lenses. Everyone seems to think it'll be shelved, but I see M and R lenses being for different markets. They are the replacements for ef and ef-s... so on the M side you'll have your Rebel-tier cameras and on the R side will be your Mark-whatever and D cameras. Why anybody thinks they would get away from that formula is beyond me. As the biggest player, Canon has understandably been on the fence, but they're starting to get it - and with the success of the M5 and the M50 they'd be fools to shatter those buyers' confidence. When they're fully up to par, they're going to have to canniblize their DSLR's for their M and R series cameras.

Only a matter of time. And then we should see some more nice bodies and lenses. Sucks to lose cross-adaptation but just because R can accommodate crop sensors doesn't mean you'd necessarily want the M-glass on em. Not any more than you'd really want a hulking R lens on a tiny M-native body. I dunno how much range they'll add... the M-lenses are clearly meant to be simpler, much more compact lenses, while the R's are bulkier, more pro-oriented affairs. But I'm sure they'll keep improving them.

What they have now really isn't bad. The only bad thing you can say is that they're generally slow, which I think people kind of over-emphasize. Everything else about them is sorta class-leading for their bracket. You can't ask for better lenses for the money. In this range it is a compromise between light-gathering, physical complexity/size, and sharpness/contrast/aberration control. You pretty much can never have all three. They sacrificed some light-gathering to bring forth some compact lenses with excellent sharpness/contrast and unusually good distortion/aberration characteristics. The 32mm is a kick-ass lens... like, a pretty mean piece of glass with an exotic design (14-element, concave front element and nearly-if-not-completely-flat rear - all for a basic prime lens!) It's actually kind of heavy for it's size... even though it's made of plastic, serious glass inside. Great build with a chunky metal mount and big, butter smooth STM focus ring. Small filter size. Then you've got the 22mm pancake for travel/casual use. The 11-22mm wide-angle, which isn't the fastest but has way better sharpness than the faster 10-18mm ef-s I have now. I hate that 10-18... it's never very sharp. The 11-22 is also like half the size. I want it. I also really need a telephoto for nature/landscape use, and they've got me covered on the 55-200mm... also on the slow side but still with good image quality, plenty enough reach, and again much smaller than the 55-250 ef-s. Not a sports lens but great as a general tele.

Between all of that, I'm looking at a pretty satisfying setup. The M5 is not quite up to really fast action or true low-light, neither of which I'm interested in. So most of lenses being slow, I couldn't care less so long they have good IQ (which looking at samples they actually produce truly GREAT renderings,) provide a workable focal-length range, are light/compact, and reasonably priced. 11-22, 32, and 55-200 all pack into a pretty tiny bag and give me the ability to take whatever pictures I want. And Canon is finally stepping up a little bit with their newest mirrorless cameras. The M5 is just a rock-solid, general-purpose camera with a great usability factor. Arguably their most versatile body in a long time. And coming from a t3i, the images are really night and day. Just so much cleaner and more workable. The sharpness is better and the noise is more controllable. The contrast and color are a world apart.

It's a dream to use and I'm so happy to be working towards a setup that I can really get down with. Can't wait to be fully kitted-out with it. I got a small Domke bag that will accommodate the whole setup with vital accessories... solid, looks good without standing out, so easy to carry. Paired it with their 1" swivel strap. Now all I need is a couple more EF-M lenses to drop inside and I feel like I'll have something I like carrying around with me a whole lot more.

And then it's pretty much that or bust until I go FF, after which it will become my secondary. Probably will not be going R for that. When it comes to serious FF mirrorless Sony is so much more on the ball. I honestly can't see Canon ever fully catching up. That's the other thing. I don't feel bad getting locked-in to M because no matter what I do, when I make a big upgrade, I'm going to have to buy new lenses regardless. Which to me isn't even a big deal. They're different classes of cameras with different goals in mind, and the ideal lenses will not work for both. Sometimes there is cross over with mounts and such, but a mount is one thing... optics and fit are another. It's unrealistic to expect a FF lens to work at its best on a crop and it never works the other way around. Personally if I'm going to have multiple bodies, I don't care if they share lenses. I'd rather just have the lenses that pair best with each of them, respectively. And oftentimes they are mutually exclusive by nature of the physics involved.

Honestly I've been like a kid with a toy, just always fooling around with it. I'll share a few that I took using my old lenses and the adapter. I have a few with the native 32mm that I still have to go through.

...it won't let me share more than one image on this post. Says it's too long! That's a first, even for me! I'll do em all in one later, I guess. :rolleyes:
 
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I don't always like Fro, but he... does... "know photo." :oops:

Okay... sorry I will berate myself for that on my time. But for real that's a pretty high honor... he's hard to please. I could give him my personal bests and I'm sure he'd call them snapshots and point out all of the things terribly wrong before making them b&w and being like "Yeah, no. Sorry... still not feelin' it. This just is not very good. NOT a good shot. Try harder next time!" Taste aside he does know his stuff, but my god is he brutal sometimes! You dodged a bullet when he gushed over it! But you definitely deserved it for that photo... it's one of the better ones I've seen on his critique runs. Cheers for that, dude.


Meanwhile I'm still floundering along with my Canon M5. I've quickly come to love this camera. I've also realized I can never go back to DSLR's. The AF capabilities and ease of use are just too good. I look through the viewfinder unless I absolutely can't and there's no guesswork on the exposure, WB, or metering. I leave it on continuous focus and just slide the focus point around with my thumb, eye to the EVF at all times, where I can see everything I'm doing with the dials. The AF is so quick and accurate, I mostly rely on the continuous and it just works.

Makes everything so easy... like, without thought. A major theme I see in most of the photos I don't share is that my composition is off... and then I think back on all of the futzing I had to do to get everything else right. I pretty much only stick everything on a tripod in a controlled environment. That is to say I do understand how everything works. But putting the rubber to the road when it's do or die is a bitch. Now, you could argue that some things only come with skill. Pro and icons mastered focus-recompose and learned to see the exposure against what the viewfinder showed, but why do that if you don't have to? What is the real benefit? To me, it's like, I know I could nail those things down in time, but I'd never like having to jump through extra hoops. It means I have to stop and focus on something other than the art in the subject. There's another problem. Abstract the concept of skill in operating the camera to the manual focus days. People like to bring up how the most beloved photographers ever only had manual focus and they made it work, so you don't need fancy features. Sure, they did! But if you look closely, they missed focus! A LOT! The more your gear can handle for you without getting in the way of whatever result you ultimately want, the better. There's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make you less of a photographer. And it will always make your photos better, whether you're already good or not.

That actually really bothers me. When people say gear doesn't matter I want to slap them silly. Of course it fucking matters! It matters a whole lot! Better tools means more work done in less time with a better chance at a quality result, in anything, really. The best camera is the one you have with you. But if the camera you have with you sucks, you're still gonna have a lot of bad times. That saying is another way of saying "Welp, its better than nothing!" Any camera is better than no camera, of course. But what does that even mean? How much better is it?

So I am all for anything that makes it easier for me to more efficiently and consistently get better pictures. Mirrorless is superior in a few key ways. One day, I'm betting they will render certain DSLR-centric operating techniques obsolete, just like AF eventually all but replaced MF. I'm okay with never having to guess my exposure, move the limited number of AF points with slow/imprecise freaking buttons/pads, pull away from the scene to navigate cumbersome menus, or focus-recompose ever again, if possible! What's that you say? I can? AND it fits in a 50% smaller bag? And it's a better value for the features?! Seriously, though. If I didn't have the T3I from way back when, I never would have bought a DSLR, let alone lenses for one.

Best of all worlds the way I'm rolling now. I've got the half-shutter on AE lock, so I can meter anywhere I want before swinging over to my focus point. And then I can use the back button to lock-in with one-shot focus when absolutely necessary. Basically, it's like regular back button, but sort of reversed in a hold-toggle config. Quick and practical, if god forbid I ever want to focus-recompose. Right below that is a button assigned to toggle servo-mode to the back button for when I want to catch something moving with the camera still or I'm following something moving consistently. Near that is a toggle that cycles through subject/face tracking, "adaptive" tracking, and regular AF. The tracking is insane, btw. Maybe not as fast as Sony's latest, but extremely smart and accurate... very hard to throw off, even when subjects leave and re-enter the frame. Killer for stills of moving subjects.

And if I want to be really precise on a tripod, I can press the center focus button below back-button and flick the blank dial to switch over to full-time, small-box, single focus w/o continuous. Repeat the action and it goes back to how I have it set. So it's all right there, no matter what my focusing needs are. Brilliant. Couple really good AF with easy controls and you've got me. It's something I've never had before and now I'm wondering how I ever got by without it. Completely changes how I shoot in the best ways. I can get shots I would never think to let alone try to get. Now, I get them easily.

I'm eventually going to ditch the t3i and my ef-s lenses. The only one I'll keep is the nifty-fifty, as it's a great ~85mm equivalent for portraits - at f/2 you get awesome background separation with a slight soft-focus effect... without sacrificing color, contrast, or real sharpness. No EF-M substitute for that. The 24mm is nice, but it's always either too wide or not wide enough. I picked up the 32mm ef-m f/1.4 to replace it. It was pricey but man, was it worth it! I'll never touch that 24mm again. The IQ and AF performance are amazingly good and the build is so solid. It's really the perfect all-purpose - a quality, fast lens with a moderate 51mm equivalent focal length. Makes the whole kit for me, tbh. It's a legit combo.

I'm going in on the M lenses. Everyone seems to think it'll be shelved, but I see M and R lenses being for different markets. They are the replacements for ef and ef-s... so on the M side you'll have your Rebel-tier cameras and on the R side will be your Mark-whatever and D cameras. Why anybody thinks they would get away from that formula is beyond me. As the biggest player, Canon has understandably been on the fence, but they're starting to get it - and with the success of the M5 and the M50 they'd be fools to shatter those buyers' confidence. When they're fully up to par, they're going to have to canniblize their DSLR's for their M and R series cameras.

Only a matter of time. And then we should see some more nice bodies and lenses. Sucks to lose cross-adaptation but just because R can accommodate crop sensors doesn't mean you'd necessarily want the M-glass on em. Not any more than you'd really want a hulking R lens on a tiny M-native body. I dunno how much range they'll add... the M-lenses are clearly meant to be simpler, much more compact lenses, while the R's are bulkier, more pro-oriented affairs. But I'm sure they'll keep improving them.

What they have now really isn't bad. The only bad thing you can say is that they're generally slow, which I think people kind of over-emphasize. Everything else about them is sorta class-leading for their bracket. You can't ask for better lenses for the money. In this range it is a compromise between light-gathering, physical complexity/size, and sharpness/contrast/aberration control. You pretty much can never have all three. They sacrificed some light-gathering to bring forth some compact lenses with excellent sharpness/contrast and unusually good distortion/aberration characteristics. The 32mm is a kick-ass lens... like, a pretty mean piece of glass with an exotic design (14-element, concave front element and nearly-if-not-completely-flat rear - all for a basic prime lens!) It's actually kind of heavy for it's size... even though it's made of plastic, serious glass inside. Great build with a chunky metal mount and big, butter smooth STM focus ring. Small filter size. Then you've got the 22mm pancake for travel/casual use. The 11-22mm wide-angle, which isn't the fastest but has way better sharpness than the faster 10-18mm ef-s I have now. I hate that 10-18... it's never very sharp. The 11-22 is also like half the size. I want it. I also really need a telephoto for nature/landscape use, and they've got me covered on the 55-200mm... also on the slow side but still with good image quality, plenty enough reach, and again much smaller than the 55-250 ef-s. Not a sports lens but great as a general tele.

Between all of that, I'm looking at a pretty satisfying setup. The M5 is not quite up to really fast action or true low-light, neither of which I'm interested in. So most of lenses being slow, I couldn't care less so long they have good IQ (which looking at samples they actually produce truly GREAT renderings,) provide a workable focal-length range, are light/compact, and reasonably priced. 11-22, 32, and 55-200 all pack into a pretty tiny bag and give me the ability to take whatever pictures I want. And Canon is finally stepping up a little bit with their newest mirrorless cameras. The M5 is just a rock-solid, general-purpose camera with a great usability factor. Arguably their most versatile body in a long time. And coming from a t3i, the images are really night and day. Just so much cleaner and more workable. The sharpness is better and the noise is more controllable. The contrast and color are a world apart.

It's a dream to use and I'm so happy to be working towards a setup that I can really get down with. Can't wait to be fully kitted-out with it. I got a small Domke bag that will accommodate the whole setup with vital accessories... solid, looks good without standing out, so easy to carry. Paired it with their 1" swivel strap. Now all I need is a couple more EF-M lenses to drop inside and I feel like I'll have something I like carrying around with me a whole lot more.

And then it's pretty much that or bust until I go FF, after which it will become my secondary. Probably will not be going R for that. When it comes to serious FF mirrorless Sony is so much more on the ball. I honestly can't see Canon ever fully catching up. That's the other thing. I don't feel bad getting locked-in to M because no matter what I do, when I make a big upgrade, I'm going to have to buy new lenses regardless. Which to me isn't even a big deal. They're different classes of cameras with different goals in mind, and the ideal lenses will not work for both. Sometimes there is cross over with mounts and such, but a mount is one thing... optics and fit are another. It's unrealistic to expect a FF lens to work at its best on a crop and it never works the other way around. Personally if I'm going to have multiple bodies, I don't care if they share lenses. I'd rather just have the lenses that pair best with each of them, respectively. And oftentimes they are mutually exclusive by nature of the physics involved.

Honestly I've been like a kid with a toy, just always fooling around with it. I'll share a few that I took using my old lenses and the adapter. I have a few with the native 32mm that I still have to go through.

...it won't let me share more than one image on this post. Says it's too long! That's a first, even for me! I'll do em all in one later, I guess. :rolleyes:
Wow mate what a post! A friend of mine has that camera and he uses it for travel and loves it. He also has a 1dx mkii.
 
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Wow mate what a post! A friend of mine has that camera and he uses it for travel and loves it. He also has a 1dx mkii.
Ahaha, yeah, I do that sometimes. Imagine if I was getting paid by the length of my posts, I'd be rich!

It's really nice as a travel camera. Small, but highly functional. As a camera for someone starting off with mirrorless it's not a bad bet either, which is where I'm at with it. I'd love to compliment it with a 1DX MKII though :p But I probably never will. That's alotta camera for alotta cash. And by the time I get there with the money to spend and just... skill to capitalize, I'm betting there will be several mirrorless options on that level. I can imagine buying gear on that level is... stressful lol.
 
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Ahaha, yeah, I do that sometimes. Imagine if I was getting paid by the length of my posts, I'd be rich!

It's really nice as a travel camera. Small, but highly functional. As a camera for someone starting off with mirrorless it's not a bad bet either, which is where I'm at with it. I'd love to compliment it with a 1DX MKII though :p But I probably never will. That's alotta camera for alotta cash. And by the time I get there with the money to spend and just... skill to capitalize, I'm betting there will be several mirrorless options on that level. I can imagine buying gear on that level is... stressful lol.

Yeah mirrorless is going to be king in a few more years. I will still be playing with DSLR :p I will get a new tshirt "DSLR is not dead!"





 
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I think vets can hire you, instead of dental x-rays, your shots are much better!!

Pissed off the Spidey with the light mounted on a tripod stand, after sometime she started to pack and leave:roll:

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I think vets can hire you, instead of dental x-rays, your shots are much better!!

Pissed off the Spidey with the light mounted on a tripod stand, after sometime she started to pack and leave:roll:

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Ooo... nice, clean close-ups. I'd like to be getting more shots like that. Something so satisfying about em.

Is that your on camera flash? Most of my close ups have been on a tripod so I avoided... but if built in flash can do that I might have to try. Might spare me a ring light.

Never mind... looked but didn't read lol

Expect to acquire a new to me Canon I 1100D EOS for a reasonable £dosh it will be in addition to my 400D EOS
Enjoy it! Funnily enough I might've cut you a deal on a t3i but I decided to keep it, even though I've got myself a nice mirrorless with a good range of glass... I just can't bring myself to ditch that camera. Still get a lot done with those older Canons!

EDIT: Welp... I guess I'll vomit couple of photos from the backlog. I've been holding off because I just haven't taken any good pictures lately. Maybe rambling and actually sharing some photos will help me regather my motivation. It's been rough on that front these days. Getting ready for the new school year means a lot of physical work and sweating in my workday. And then it doesn't really settle down until the first month of school is almost over. Between that and things with my old roommate coming to a head, I have been cherishing the meager moments of peace in my own home. So happy to have both of those things behind me. Now if only my home wasn't still being torn apart :p

Some of the very first I took with the M5...

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Something I really like about this pose and angle. She's rearing up to jump! I tried to frame it to suggest that there's something of interest up past that right corner with the weighting being down in the other corner... to try and get across that she is in motion and moving in that direction without needing to show everything. I figured it's more interesting if you don't see what she's looking at or where she's going to... I felt like adding the windowsill in the shot would've been a distraction from the most appealing part of the image. I wanted to show off her stripes and beautiful jade eyes while she just did what she does. In abstract, it's "Beautifully patterned, jade-eyed cat jumps up." rather than "tabby cat jumping on white windowsill." You know? Not sure if I even came close, but I'm nonetheless trying to train myself to take things like that more seriously. Let the photo show what's happening and what's of interest without being a slut about it. As I go on seeing more of what works for me, I'm leaning very heavily towards stronger separation with a few simple highlights. I naturally try to simplify the image as much as possible.

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She's watching cat TV. Don't mind the 12g romex. In the middle of an impromptu remodel and the wire isn't even connected to the sub-panel. A copper line in the foundation has been leaking for a long time... so they ripped out a lot of the walls in the kitchen dining area... all of the tile in the house, the cabinets. It all has to be replaced. All over a pipe that only feeds a f-ing HOSE BIB. Doesn't make for the best backdrop. My life is such a mess right now <_< Thank god for BOKEH!

After taking these, I got inspired to go out for an afternoon shoot. I should've stayed right there and tried to capture the full story of all of the things she does by those two windows. Going out was a total bust. I think when the walls and floors are done I might do that.

Still only had my EF-S lenses at the time. I can see the massive IQ jump from the T3i to the M5 there, but I also started to see where those EF-S lenses' weaknesses are. When you put them up against the best M lenses they really seem cheap... in build, too. It's like a toy vs the real thing. I used the 24mm pancake EF-S for these... it's really soft wide-open. Stopped down a little the sharpness is much better in the middle and the color rendition is pretty good, but I dunno... it doesn't ever have that fineness to it and the bokeh looks kinda wrong to me. Is it stupid to say it looks fake? The general IQ limitations really show at larger resolutions. Scaled down they look great, but they start showing more flaws at the higher web resolutions. Good on a page, just okay for single viewing. You all won't see it as much due to pretty aggressive sharpening, color, and contrast adjustments. You can get beautiful images, but it always takes a lot of 'cleaning-up.'


That was my first taste of the DPAF/touch autofocus. I wasn't even using subject tracking. Just followed her face around with my thumb as she jumped up and down and pranced about... and let continuous focus do its thing. Just pressing the shutter whenever I felt like it. I couldn't believe that 9/10 shots were actually in perfect focus. It really blew my mind. I have my doubts about really fast-moving subjects, but to be able to just move the focus point around as you compose at will and have the subject in focus no matter where you put it in the frame is a wondrous thing for setting up more typical handheld stills. It's like magic. Just pretend you're sliding the subject around in the frame as you move the camera. It's so intuitive. You keep your eye to the viewfinder and just move through the shots. It really feels good... I felt completely immersed... in the act of taking cat pictures. But still!

I will say I really appreciated having some real DR to work with shooting against a window. Even at relatively high ISO, these shots left me a lot to work with... though I didn't need to do too much. The overall detail and light/color rendition was great... like spot on. The metering on this camera is just right. The AWB leans warm, but often that's desirable for me, and when it isn't, I shoot RAW anyway. The in-focus parts didn't even need NR. It only shows on the blurry parts. I pretty much never got away with that at ISO 1600 on the T3i. Now I'm thinking 3200 and 6400 are probably very usable. It'll be nice to have another 2 full stops of sensitivity to put to use with still more DR than I ever had before.

While I'm saying this very plainly, that's actually a pretty big deal for me. I feel like I've been banging my head against a wall, not having much of any pull. Like, even if I nail the exposure, I still want to be able to bring out in editing the aspects of the image the camera can't show on its own. It was the main reason I wanted to upgrade, and assumed I would be moving away from Canon for that in an APS-C to get there, as much as I love the way Canon cameras handle and operate. Then came the M5 with amazing ease-of-use and 80D quality sensor. Now I think people really exaggerate the superiority of other brands' APS-C sensors over Canons. The 24mp ones at least are about as good as any other currently out there and the AF is respectable and unique as well. Sony focuses better... and many other APS-C and m4/3 sensors edge out a little bit with ISO performance and DR... but the difference isn't so much that it's actually a different bracket... like, I really doubt the images you'll take will be better enough with any other crop-sensor. They're still all crop-sensors. All modern crop-sensors hit the same walls at the same points. There's nothing about the other ones that's going to elevate the way you shoot or the quality of the pictures in any real way. Having the best crop sensor isn't saying much if we're talking about any of the high-MP ones today.

I feel like people who passionately make the case for such and such crop sensor over any other JUST on the merit of the dang sensor these days miiiight have FF envy. :p Even the 'lesser' one is very good! It's really the features they have that does or doesn't put more power in your hands. Past that it's down to the one that's most set-up for how you want to operate it. Quality of life stuff. With the best crop-sensor you're getting, perceivably, the same IQ as the lesser one. You don't get better pictures. Just a better experience.

The standard EF mount 50mm f/1.8 (the metal mount version,) has way better everything for less money... probably takes cleaner images than any EF-S, and quite a few others out there. The CA can be strong, though. Like sure, you get f/1.8 with very pleasant bokeh, but at times it really handles the lateral CA poorly wide-open. You can still get it pretty easily even at moderate apertures. But I will say that even stopped down less than a full stop, it has amazing resolving power. f/2.2 or even f/2 aren't bad. And it always seems to have more satisfying contrast. How can any Canon-user not have one for portraits and close-ups?
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I hate the EF-S 10-18. It's fine for basic video or vlogging, but as a stills lens I don't find it impressive at all. It has weird sharpness issues. Like, it's decently sharp and in proper focus with nice, defined edges in the area of focus, but right out of camera at low ISO's it looks like it's has heavy NR and sharpening done. And the edge sharpness has never been good, no matter what I do. And then the colors and contrast seem flat. I pretty much never use it. And when I do, I usually resort to B/W. Maybe I have a bad one cuz people seem to really like this lens. Part of this might be that I'm reeally bad at shooting wide-angle, but then I never want to partially because when I do I have to contend with the fact that they'll be they'll always be pretty lackluster compared to my other lenses.
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The EF-M 32mm f/1.4, I sadly haven't gotten to use much yet, though just firing off random test shots, I can already tell it's a much better lens than your typical EF-S affair. Not quite L, but closer to that performance than not. Like, not even comparable to some of the other nice, normal-length primes out there. Well worth the $500. Makes for a pretty handsome-looking setup, too IMO... though my closeups still need so much work lol. To be fair, it's gotten much harder for me to stand there with my T3i when through it, I'm just looking at a majorly better camera setup, that I in fact own, and wishing I was using that instead. Couldn't even be bothered to check WB, let alone focus. :p
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But anyway, that 32mm... I can't wait to take more pictures with it. Every picture I take, even stupid ones like these are so much more pleasing with this combo. It's got so much more pop to it. And the colors I bring out in post with it do not exist with images from the T3i and/or chintsy EF-S lenses. Man, it's such a nice change to not have to always be limiting myself and jumping through hoops to squeeze out better IQ. the f/1.4 bokeh is also delicious. Thank god Canon actually gave the M line a really nice high-quality prime at a versatile focal length. It's got me enjoying colors and textures a lot more. Maybe too much so...
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I've never seen the color and texture of these elephant ears so well before.. the color pattern actually got picked up! I had such a hard time grabbing that with my old setup. Now those streaks just pop like crazy.
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On this day, there was AMAZING light outside. I wanted to be out there so bad, but it was after a downpour and the humidity made it impossible. I knew the window would be too short for me to acclimate the camera. So I drowned my sorrows by trying to do something artsy... which in this case meant metering on the sky while taking pictures of things like an aggressively pruned datura plant, or my dusty blinds...

But that's how it goes this time of year. I bring you a typical summer afternoon in beautiful coastal south florida... as seen when ruined by anxiety-inducingly tilted power lines.
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I've also got the EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-f/6.3 in hand now. I'm really excited to get to work with that one. Got it used for $180. For a kit lens, it's not cheap quality at all... especially compared to the venerable EF-S 55-250. Super well-built plastic lens. It actually even has a glass front element. And the image quality is very good. It doesn't feel like much of a compromise on the sensor's potential. You probably won't find an EF or EF-S kit lens with nearly the perceived resolution or image quality, even the faster ones. Thanks to DPAF, it actually focuses as well as any other lens on the camera (which is responsive, accurate, and consistent,) even at 200mm when it hits 6.3 for its widest aperture. It just needs reasonable light, as the new M sensor's DPAF doesn't have the best AF light sensitivity and the combination of tighter aperture and longer lens doesn't help. I was still grabbing focus without it flipping to contrast-detect focusing in a room lit only by a 350 lumen lightbulb. So it's still gonna work fine in most situations. True low-light, no way - all bets are off. The IS works really well, though being so small in general the whole setup is significantly easier to keep steady. I swear I can pretty consistently take 200mm shots at 1/20 and not have shake. I wouldn't rely on that or anything lol, but the point is I could do it if I really focused on it, more often than not.

How cool is that? A good medium tele with IS that's only about 6 inches long and maybe 2 inches wide? At that point, everything else is pretty much a bonus. I can forgive how slow it is.

It's been interesting to see the kind of glass Canon puts out with such a short flange distance. The ones I've tried so far have basically been tiny APS-C lenses that generally outperform thier older, bigger APS-C lenses in everything but minimum aperture. They're also much denser in the hand, even the plastic-mounts. I like that for stability. It puts the bulk of the weight right around where the tripod mount is, so it just kind of rests in the hand. I doubt that extra weight is some new kind of STM motor, as EF-S motors with STM and IS element groups still weigh nothing. So that's just glass! People diss the M lenses for being limited, which I get... depending on what you shoot and how, you might not have your lens, but they really do cover a good range between just 3 of them... everything from 11mm-200mm, and the actual quality of those lenses would still be very good if they were DSLR lenses. They're pretty unique and show a lot of promise. Be interesting if they ever update em. Never know... they're pushing forward with an M6 mkII supposedly.

Then when they do make a fast lens for these bodies, it far surpasses the bigger APS-C lenses made for their DSLR's. The 32mm especially is probably on par with many of their more expensive DSLR lenses. Not like, hands-down best territory, but definitely one of the best available for Canon in that focal length. I don't feel like that's a huuuge stretch.

If all I had was that and the M5 and that chunky little lens, I'd think I made off pretty well for $1000! You're just not going to find a camera and lens with so much all-around capability for that money. You can have a better camera for a little more money, but a comparably good lens would probably put you at ~$2000 with the camera easily.
 
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That 32mm 1.4 does good with close up shots. What's the minimal focus distance on it?
 
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That 32mm 1.4 does good with close up shots. What's the minimal focus distance on it?
0.23m/0.76ft... so about ).25x magnification. So decidedly not exactly a macro lens, but not bad at all... very usable for general close-ups. And then you've got f/1.4, which by the time you get down to a foot away, is razor-thin DOF. And it is still as sharp as it ever is wide-open. I'm betting if I stood far enough from something flat enough to have the whole thing in critical focus, it would be sharp from edge to edge. Nice contrast and color rendition really give the details and textures in close-ups more oomph, too. It just works well for them for many reasons, even though it's not really a lens to buy only for close-ups.

I just like how much what little is in focus pops against that creamy and smooth cats-eye bokeh. It's a fun lens with a ton of shooting options. You do pay a lot (well... for an EF-M lens,) but it holds up well against other options in that price range. It's a gem as far as non-L Canon lenses go. All-around, I don't know of a lens quite like it for their DSLR's going for less.
 
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3X mag on the Canon MP E65mm f.2.8 Shot at 1/200th ISO 2000 F8 Flash set to 1/64 and custom made macro diffuser.

 

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Really glad I saw this thread on the front page. This amounts to sacrilege, but I've never really explored these forums too much. And I've seen there's a whole lot of incredible information and dedicated photography enthusiasts on here.

Anyway, I've started my photography journey last December. Read some reviews, and jumped on a Canon EOS M-100, with which I've been very happy for the time being.

In terms of glass, I'm now rocking:
EF-M 22mm f/2
EF-S 55-250mm f/4.5 is ii
EF 50 mm f/1.8

and my personal favorite by far, a manual focus 7Artisans 35mm f/1.2. This is an incredible piece of kit, and I would recommend any EF-M toting photographers to at least try it out. Incredible value for money, and incredible, vintage-like images. Very easy to nail down the focus as well.

I just wanted to post this to kinda commit to being a part of this thread. I'll make sure to post some of my latest shots later today, along with settings.

Kudos to all of you, and nice snaps!
 
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