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    Hey peeps - I've been offered a second hand U2UFO (silver) for £100. Is this a good deal?
     
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    Nice deal seeing as they cost $360
     
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    Thats a big mountain mods case!

    EDIT: Actually we might have nukes but maybe not for long as we cant afford to keep them and i doubt people will want to refund a deterrent in this economic climate especially when there is no conventional enemy these days. Things might also change if Scotland ever went independent, like England would then be stumped with all the costs and housing the submarines.

    Like i said before having the death sentence becomes mostly about revenge killings "paedophiles should be hanged because i have a daughter". I thought the judicial system was made to be impartial so it could be fair to both parties. You know people get convicted even if they didn't do it, what if you where wrongly accused? Would find that okay? Probably not. Like i said before its like having ones cake and trying to eat it.

    As for pow's not that i support this but i cant see how anyone can support the death penalty and not killing pow's. See a country gets invaded it has a right to defend itself from an aggressor, lets say the aggressor kills one of your buddies in the regiment? Maybe you want revenge for that? They killed your mate, hows killing pow's any different to putting a murder to the death sentence, if it happened in your home town or something and it wasn't an opposing army it was another one of your friends in the heat of passion? No to me all the type of killing are the same wrong including the government sanctioned stuff that's done in my name that i never consented to. Death penalty pros state cost and the harm the criminal has done, exactly like a pow hows it any different? They done harm they cost money to keep.

    I don't see how anyone can morally say they have the upper hand when it comes to supporting corporal punishment, its either about revenge killings or money. Also i don't believe governments should be based on Christian ideals especially when there are people who don't believe in God or are part of another religion.

    Maybe next we can discuss euthanasia or assisted suicide? Btw Im being sarcastic because these type of topics are best not discussed on a tech forum especially when people have ideals and will probably never change them which can lead to arguments and such.
     
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    It's perfect condition aswell. I should have said - I know it's a good deal, I'm just wondering how good a deal lol
    I'll have a look at some FS threads on other forums, see what they've gone for recently.
     
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    For some reason my mind was relating Tatty to 'noob tubes' in Call of duty..... (no idea why) I was gonna say something stupid like "tatty!! release the noobtubes!!"


    Random thought
     
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    Bloody hell, $350 on Hardforums this year. Anyone wanna buy a U2? :laugh:

    j/k, I'm keeping it :)
     
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    So I heard people talking about death penalty and stuff like that. I personally support death penalty, because it does gives a strong message to the public. If they got the wrong person? When you fail, try again as mom always say. Call me cruel and heartless etc, but I believe in absolute efficiency.
     
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    Certain types of people have been proven scientifically not to change or even be capable of change. Yet we keep them alive after causing harm draining the resources for the next generation. It has nothing to do with religion. Its just common sense.

    Its not about revenge. Its about thinning out the heard of bum stock so new stock can eat.
     
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    so youre happy to watch innocent people get hanged or sent to the electric chair due to overzealous (or just plain useless) cops?

    what if it was you who was innocent and being strapped into the electric chair? would you just shrug your shoulders and say to yourself that they wont make the mistake again or would you be kicking and screaming while they drag you to the chair and strap you in, proclaiming your innocents and that they have the wrong guy??

    because if thats the way you think then thats just wrong. because every one knows that the London MET police falls far from the tree when it comes to other police forces in dfferent countries. they dont always get their shit right. granted no police force has a 100% track record. but the UK seem to make a lot more errors then anywhere else Ive seen
     
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    Not happy, but you cannot have anything if you are not willing to trade something in return. The trade currently stands at: 1 innocent life every so often to stamp down crime. A price I am willing to pay, even if I am the sacrificial goat. I will gladly put my life on the line if it means that lots of other people can benefit from it. (Whether I have the balls to face it when that happens is another matter, courage takes time and experience to build). The Met fails, but that is another matter again. I believe in the principle, executing the plan (pun intended) not of my concern.
     
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    well if your happy to die for other peoples mistakes and Incompetence then more power to you!!

    I will not however. youre not a soldier. you have no obligation to anyone asside from yourself. you have a choice. it would be a sad waste of a life if you were to be publicly or privately executed because the cops had the wrong guy. Just like the de Menezes case (stockwell shooting)

    the police fucked up. killing an innocent man is an injustice and it would make the MET police even more Complacent because guilty or not. if youre a suspect in a serious crime. they will execute you anyway, and not only is that only wrong. it is the wrong picture to show to the rest of the world. and that makes the UK no better then any country run by a ruthless homicidal mass-murdering dictator that slaughters their own people and dumps them into mass unknown graves.

    Learn from their mistakes you say?? the MET police is a joke. Mi5 is also a joke. How many times have you heard on the news that Mi5 recieved tip offs from multiple sources but never acted on it?? so many times have i heard the same thing. If Mi5 or the police had acted. then the london bus bombing probably would have never happend.

    you may feel fine about 'sacrificing' yourself for somebodys incompetence. but im not going to take it sitting down if the finger was pointed at me.
     
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    I don't expect anyone to have the same ideals as me.

    However, if I am made the prime minister of UK, one of the first things I get rid of is Health and safety :D Death Penalty is another one, you must need to have absolute proof for that, eg caught stabbing someone. No wishy washy details like "oh by inference you are the killer". There must be absolute proof to for you to execute a person. Prisoners have to earn their own keep would be another one, I dont expect prisoners to sit in their cells for 20 hours a day "reflecting". What bullshit. Trimming down the public sector will be next, and with that I expect to fire myself by the end of my 5 year tenure.
     
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    believe it or not health and safety laws are no where near as severe as some people make them out to be, they only require companies to take 'reasonable steps' to prevent injury, so alot of these things companies say health and safety won't let them do is often just them looking for an excuse to not do it.

    if you were to make a death penalty i would keep it for repeat offenders, not first timers


    Going off-topic seeing as this topics now 2 days old, does anybody know how easy it is to go to japan?, cause i really want to go there, a lot!!! :cool:

    i also want to learn Japanese but i don't know where i could do that...

    AND THEY CANCELLED THE NEWS OF THE WORLD, THIS IS TURNING OUT TO BE A REALLY GOOD DAY!!!
     
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    Good riddance to the news of the world, though I was reading today it's the UK's #1 paper ,lol! And they just cancel it just like that! wow.

    Also +1 on the japan thing provided I could afford it. But I don't want to learn the language!
     
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    There's a good reason for that - the same reason they're gone! :laugh:
    Everyone buy this Sunday's edition and wrap it in clingfilm - the last one ever will be end up being worth a mint!!
     
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    I want to learn the langauge as It sounds nice, the people that speak it are awesome, and so i can watch anime in its original form

    unfortunatly I dont know where I could learn it so i'm stuck with English and german for now.

    I'm 99% sure this Sundays adult mail will be priced at like £5 or something like that.

    EDIT:*daily mail, stupid htc spelling correction
     
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    Im not fond of the Japanese as they have a really closed culture but i dont care anyway as its not like i will ever emigrate there, however i do like their products and work attitude.

    I LOVE THAT NEWS OF THE WORLD SHUT DOWN!!! I think Murdoch did it to protect the BskyB deal and his other news papers from investigation. One day i hope "The Sun" also shuts down which also happens to be owned by News International, its a liar of a newspaper and it prints a load of tat. Murdochs conglomerate supports the Tories, it did in the 80s too when it tried to break the unions but supported Tony Blair who was apparently in touch with them all the time, just a bit of history for you all.

    EDIT: Freedom i just have to say that im glad someone shares a similar view to me as to the previous topic.
    Just been playing Shenmue on my Dreamcast have to say it looks good for a dreamcast game!
     
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    well being Chinese... I have to say that i quite like the Japanese culture. the kids are better raised. more well behaved and the women respect their men a lot more then british women. (and japanese girls are more cute -- dont out drink the men and know how to cook a damn good chicken curry)

    and not only that. I like their music a lot better too!!

    the only thing though. If i wanted to go live there. Id have to give up my british passport. and since that gets me pretty much anywhere. its not gonna happen.
     
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    It's actually the biggest single edition selling newspaper on the planet.
     
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    I wouldn't have expected you to hear of it, our American buddies tend to look more inward than outward :p
     
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    I thought historically the Chinese and Japanese hated each other?
     
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    Tentacle porn and things like that has caused Freedom to defect. :p

    Jokes aside, yes Japan and China does not have the best of relationships, but as China puts it, As much as we don't like them (North Korea), they are still neighbours so we will have to help. Same goes to France and Britain. Not the best of friends, but Hitler (and co.) was reason enough to force them together.
     
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    Ahh! my GTX280 just hit the dust! gonna sell up mah shit and get a GTX570
     
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    Historically. Japanese people were originally from China.
    thats why japanese writing looks very similar to chinese.
     
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