I like your use of the letter p The 470 is the Twin Frozr II one, thing weighs a ton!! I haven't had a chance to fit it yet, just doing the thread-checking and PM-replying first!! Kids are watching CBeebies at the mo and they'll batter me if I turn it off so I'll have to wait for a bit. Aah, glad to hear the RAM's good, I never had a chance to play with it poor performance upon my part (I can play with p's too ) Kieran, has your mate had a chance to play with that OCZ RAM yet? I'm interested in what that set will hit aswell.