The TPU UK Clubhouse

[kurosagi01]

1 month of "full lockdown" again man he is really only thinking about the economy than anything.

 

[lynx29]

1 month of "full lockdown" again man he is really only thinking about the economy than anything.

1 month seems a bit excessive. I think maybe 16 days would have been better, and the vaccine rollout is happening lightning fast... so 16 days, and possibly all nursing homes/care centers are done within 3 weeks.

I do find it interesting how the right wing of the world is getting crap for lockdowns, when if it were the left wing doing these lockdowns, the right wings would be screaming at top of their lungs to win votes in the future rounds. Funny how the tables do turn sometimes

 

[kurosagi01]

1 month seems a bit excessive. I think maybe 16 days would have been better, and the vaccine rollout is happening lightning fast... so 16 days, and possibly all nursing homes/care centers are done within 3 weeks.

I do find it interesting how the right wing of the world is getting crap for lockdowns, when if it were the left wing doing these lockdowns, the right wings would be screaming at top of their lungs to win votes in the future rounds. Funny how the tables do turn sometimes

1 month just seem pointless to me lol,it didn't work in November why would it be any different from November to this one with exception of vaccine rolling out.
Realistically if people are that fussy about the elderly and education, they should be vaccinating the elderly, NHS/GP workers, teachers and students which "might" cut the number down by decent chunk.
Both wings will get yelled at by everyone, we are all selfish cretins after all, i'm just waiting for something like Godzilla or something event to happen now.

 

[lynx29]

1 month just seem pointless to me lol,it didn't work in November why would it be any different from November to this one with exception of vaccine rolling out.
Realistically if people are that fussy about the elderly and education, they should be vaccinating the elderly, NHS/GP workers, teachers and students which "might" cut the number down by decent chunk.
Both wings will get yelled at by everyone, we are all selfish cretins after all, i'm just waiting for something like Godzilla or something event to happen now.

a lockdown makes sense to me right now, the vaccine is here, they just need a little breathing room as they start giving it frontline workers and elderly. as I said though 4 weeks seems a bit excessive, 2 should have done the trick to stop the curve from rising higher/give time to get more old people vaccinated.

 

[kurosagi01]

a lockdown makes sense to me right now, the vaccine is here, they just need a little breathing room as they start giving it frontline workers and elderly. as I said though 4 weeks seems a bit excessive, 2 should have done the trick to stop the curve from rising higher/give time to get more old people vaccinated.

Yet we have same group of elderlies going out to sit and chat at coffee shop as-well.
I honestly think the curve will continue to rise after the lockdown still because it still takes a couple days for the "vaccine" to fully kick in the system, they are only tackling the elderly and frontline workers but like I said some of the big offenders are children now.
They can badger on that kids are "safe" but they could easily be carriers and infect others without realising, the fact they say kids don't need to wear face mask in school as well just makes the risk of spreading higher. Which is why i'm saying they should be targeting the education sector as well.
Going to a big open retail park like central Milton Keyne during December in attempt to try get Christmas gift for friends, seeing some kids walking around with no face mask on and just sneeze without covering their face and coughing now disgust me.
Honestly I hope the world will slowly adopt the mentality like in Asia where people wear face mask if they have a cold/cough if they have to go outdoors into the public when this pandemic is more under "control".

 

[lynx29]

Honestly I hope the world will slowly adopt the mentality like in Asia where people wear face mask if they have a cold/cough if they have to go outdoors into the public when this pandemic is more under "control".

most won't sadly.

and the elderly they are worried about are in nursing care homes/not allowed to leave those care homes until they get vaccine. 90% of all deaths or something like that is in nursing elderly homes... within a month almost all of them will be vaccinated as they are getting it before even other old people living on their own. stopping the curve in its tracks right now gives them some time to finish this vaccine to the most at risk population.

again i disagree with 1 month length. 2 weeks would have been enough, main thing is to stop the rising curve in conjunction with vaccine rollout.

i don't agree with anymore lockdowns after this though, vaccine should be in everyone by end of may in England

 

[the54thvoid]

Two weeks isn't enough. You catch it on day -1, go into lockdown with asymptomatic Covid, pass it on to family, one or two members. After 2 weeks, one or more may still be positive. After 4 weeks, that likelihood is near zero.

 

[lynx29]

Two weeks isn't enough. You catch it on day -1, go into lockdown with asymptomatic Covid, pass it on to family, one or two members. After 2 weeks, one or more may still be positive. After 4 weeks, that likelihood is near zero.

still slows the curve though, it really would depend on the vaccine numbers, like what the actual target date is for all elderly to have been vaccinated. taking a month for second shot on top of first not even being given yet... i suppose 1 month is needed when i think about it that way

 

[dorsetknob]

Just wondering how you get on with Face mask's in countrys like Italy where you cannot enter places like Banks with your face covered
ie no going into banks ect while wearing motercycle crash Helmets.

 

[kurosagi01]

Just wondering how you get on with Face mask's in countrys like Italy where you cannot enter places like Banks with your face covered
ie no going into banks ect while wearing motercycle crash Helmets.

Maybe they will change the law.

 

[Caring1]

Edit: he may wanna stop 1.5 million students going back to Uni in the next week too!

International students should be sent home also as they won't be studying, and most likely still working to cover living costs, therefore out and about spreading Covid further.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Just wondering how you get on with Face mask's in countrys like Italy where you cannot enter places like Banks with your face covered
ie no going into banks ect while wearing motercycle crash Helmets.

A lot of the time in Italy. The banks are 'owned' by Mafias. So if you were to rob one. Don Corleone and his boys will be coming for you to make you an offer you cant refuse to get the money back.

 

[Tatty_One]

Slowing this curve is not enough, if you manage to halve the infection rate during a shortish lockdown then with this new variant it will double again within 2-3 weeks of coming out of lockdown. As far as I am aware this new lockdown is in place for at least 6 weeks, Boris said until school half term which means that they would have broken up for half term on Friday 19th Feb.

We are at the mercy of vaccine supply and personally I am not overly optimistic regarding the hopes that all 70+ year olds, front line workers and all those with significant underlying conditions will get vaccinated by the end of Feb (let alone allowing for 3-4 weeks for immunity response) and that's 13 million+ people, even at a 6 week lockdown some of our most vulnerable will still be so.

 

[kurosagi01]

According to JRM fishes have nationality.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1349707738583093248

 

[the54thvoid]

It's not politics because it's too ridiculous to be real. It's not real, right? That's a Chris Morris character, surely.

- (I know it's real).

 

[Tatty_One]

It's not politics because it's too ridiculous to be real. It's not real, right? That's a Chris Morris character, surely.

- (I know it's real).

TBH, JRM has always been cuckoo, there is a very good reason why his pal Boris has not given him a ministerial department, he would break it in his first week.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

TBH, JRM has always been cuckoo, there is a very good reason why his pal Boris has not given him a ministerial department, he would break it in his first week.

And yet he still earns a wage there, sad.

Guys a cretin and an idiot.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

TBH, JRM has always been cuckoo, there is a very good reason why his pal Boris has not given him a ministerial department, he would break it in his first week.

Yet people like Chris Grayling are constantly rewarded with a promotion despite their failures

 

[Tatty_One]

Yet people like Chris Grayling was constantly rewarded with a promotion despite their failures

I corrected that for you, Grayling was so bad he couldn't even get into the Boris cabinet. Just to stress, my 2 comments are not political, merely an observation of any individuals absolute lack of competence, it's a real cross party thing these days...……….. #I'm out

 

[phill]

And there I was thinking 2021 might be a better year than 2020.... It looks like it's not worse, just more fricking coo koo!!

 

[mullered07]

Wow... I never thought that when I started this it would still be going strong 13 years later, mucho respect to all the UK people who have kept it ticking over, I have had about a 7 year internet hiatus due to personal reasons but it's nice to see that things are still ticking over just as when I left

 

[kurosagi01]

Great to see you back sir, hope things are going better for you now and you have done any upgrades to your current system along the way.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Wow... I never thought that when I started this it would still be going strong 13 years later, mucho respect to all the UK people who have kept it ticking over, I have had about a 7 year internet hiatus due to personal reasons but it's nice to see that things are still ticking over just as when I left

thats alright. you just owe everyone a few pints for keeping the lights on.

 

[qubit]

Wow... I never thought that when I started this it would still be going strong 13 years later, mucho respect to all the UK people who have kept it ticking over, I have had about a 7 year internet hiatus due to personal reasons but it's nice to see that things are still ticking over just as when I left

7 years without internet?

Apologies, my CPU is currently experiencing an overload.

Great to see ya back.

 

[kurosagi01]

Ironic how time has flown by, potentially China is now in position to celebrate CNY again during their pandemic lockdown and now they are "fine" and everywhere else is in a pandemic lockdown.
It is amusing seeing the irony of GMB arguing with members of parliament.