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I'm not sure to understand your point sir StrayKAT. Metro Exodus will be an all new AAA game and not only a tech demo.

Oh, I thought it was just remaster of an old version.

Still though, I'll be more impressed if it was FF15 cutscene shit or something. Something that makes use of actual cinematic techniques, but in real time.

Why not? I guess you only play brand new games?

Is there any evidence that I do? I talk about all kinds of games here.
 

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Is there any evidence that I do? I talk about all kinds of games here.
Well your question: who even plays that? Since even the remastered versions are several years old, one could easily infer that you were speaking of their age and thus decrying their playworthiness.

The other possibility is their play quality, but since both are very popular and well done I decided it couldn’t be that.

You could always make what you mean clear the first time too. :p
 
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Well your question: who even plays that? Since even the remastered versions are several years old, one could easily infer that you were speaking of their age and thus decrying their playworthiness.

The other possibility is their play quality, but since both are very popular and well done I decided it couldn’t be that.

You could always make what you mean clear the first time too. :p

I know people play it.. it's just meant to be a bit sarcastic. I'm not impressed with it, as a demonstration.

If the main workflow for this technology is in the film industry - and they want to also market it somehow to gamers, then I'd like to see games that somewhat mimic the film industry. Something like Square stands out to me more on that front.
 

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I know people play it.. it's just meant to be a bit sarcastic. I'm not impressed with it, as a demonstration
Ok, you don’t like it, no problem. Probably best then to not foist your lack of approval for the game on what other people play.
 
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Ok, you don’t like it, no problem. Probably best then to not foist your lack of approval for the game on what other people play.

It's more that it's irrelevant, I think. Not necessarily good or bad.

Up until recently, FF had to rely on videos to display it's CGI (all the way into FF13). FF15 does rendering, but it's downgraded from CGI levels, of course. If a card like this can improve that, that's a good selling point. edit: Hmm.. apparently 15 relies on video in places as well.
 
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Metro games are those linear experiences that are so well done you can just pick em up once a year and still never get bored replaying them.

Regardless... that has nothing to do with ray tracing and everything with art design, and gameplay.
 
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Metro games are those linear experiences that are so well done you can just pick em up once a year and still never get bored replaying them.

Regardless... that has nothing to do with ray tracing and everything with art design, and gameplay.
I'm sure I heard exodus is more open world/outside than it is underground. Both the video footage we've seen and the name suggest that.
 
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I'm sure I heard exodus is more open world/outside than it is underground. Both the video footage we've seen and the name suggest that.

Yeah... fingers crossed they don't screw it up and make another Skyrim clone.
 

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Agreed, even GP102 is two years old now yet laughs at the competiton, at this point we need Nvidia to start competing with themselves.

AMD can stick Navi and their evil console monolopy up their arse.
It's not a monopoly when Sony and Microsoft signed those agreements, also the Nintendo switch runs nvidia so Ur monopoly statement is false
 
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It's not a monopoly when Sony and Microsoft signed those agreements

Question is, how does a monopoly work when you are the only one that can provide the products that the biggest customers in the industry want and you've never actually had real competitors to begin with.

Funny, fanboys don't even know what a monopoly is these days after Intel and Nvidia normalized such practices.
 

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Question is, how does a monopoly work when you are the only one that can provide the products that the biggest customers in the industry want and you've never actually had real competitors to begin with.

Funny, fanboys don't even know what a monopoly is these days after Intel and Nvidia normalized such practices.
really...lol. MS and Sony were free to develop and sign an agreement with whomever they chose, its not AMDs fault they were chosen. Nvidia should be held accountable for not offering what is needed. Also the fanboy comment is hilarious, just because i use an AMD chip atm does not mean im a fanboy lol

Question is, how does a monopoly work when you are the only one that can provide the products that the biggest customers in the industry want and you've never actually had real competitors to begin with.

so Nvidia is the Bigger company of the 2 but they arent able to "provide" the product needed? but hey whatever floats your boat
 
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really...lol. MS and Sony were free to develop and sign an agreement with whomever they chose, its not AMDs fault they were chosen. Nvidia should be held accountable for not offering what is needed. Also the fanboy comment is hilarious, just because i use an AMD chip atm does not mean im a fanboy lol

I was actually agreeing with you, calling out actual fanboys that don't know how a monopoly works.

so Nvidia is the Bigger company of the 2 but they arent able to "provide" the product needed? but hey whatever floats your boat

Being bigger doesn't mean you have the ability to cater to every industry out there, as was the case with consoles. Neither Intel or Nvidia could make the products that they wanted even with all that cash and market share that they have.
 

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I was actually agreeing with, calling out fanboys that don't know how a monopoly works.
my bad, im in a mood today, some douche on twitter was bitching about stuff thats not tech related so i wont go into it here :)

its an easy decison for MS and Sony to use a custom SoC designed by one company rather then having to pay nvidia and intel to co-make a chip as i dont think ARM is powerful enough to power consoles that have 4K and such with more powerful ones being developed already
 
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Looks worse than expected actually. The 1080 was at least 25% faster than the 980ti and the 1070 was about 5-7% faster than the Ti. So Turing is a much smaller jump in performance relative to previous lineups.

It's hard to judge the increase when you bounce outside the tiers.... this is due in part to nVidia's goal of setting up the price / performance ratio of each tier such that a top tier card is more attractive then twin cards from a lower tier.

The 1080 Ti was 73% faster than the 980 Ti
The 1080 was 69% faster than the 980, 37% faster than the 980 Ti
The 1070 was 63% faster then the 970, 14% faster than the 980 Ti

I don't think we can always count on the 2 tier advantage

I was expecting even numbers on the memory ... I'd expected to see ...

3 - 4 GB for cards targeted at 1080p
6 - 8 GB for cards targeted at 1440p
12 - 16 GB for cards targeted at 2160p


seen games dangerously approach that 8gb.

As far as I know, there's no utility as yet that measures actual in game usage, so we actually have no way determining this. As it has been descrbed in various articles, utilities measure memory allocation not usage. The best analogy here is when you buy a $700 GFX card on your Visa CC with a $5,000 limit, you have a liability of $700 and $4300 of credit available. However, when you subsequently apply for a car load, the number reported to the credit agencies is $5000. These utilities are pretty much doing the same thing.

When you install a game, it says "Oh... he has 8 GB of VRAM, so let's allocate 6 GB cause our game is awesome". This is what the utilities report, how much is "allocated" not used. This is evidenced by numerpous tests whereby cards with the same GPU but different VRAM amounts are swapped out and the one with less VRAM has less than the utility said was 'allocated" when the larger card was installed. In every test I have seen , outside poor console ports and other oddities, one of the following happened:

a) The cards ran within 1 or 2 fps of one another, with both cards having a small advantages / disadvantages on both sides. In one instance the game would not instal with the smaller VRAM version, so they installed the later version, tested it and then swapped back ... the cards performed identically.

b) The only instance they were able to see a significant difference was at resolutions and settings which made the game unplayable. Of what significance is it if a 3GB card delivers 13 fs and the 6 GB card delivers 31% more ? The game is unplayable at 13 or 17 fps.

Another instance is the 3GB and 6GB 1060s tested here on TPU. This test is somewhat swayed by the fact that they cards have different GPUs with the 6GB version having 10% more shaders. Now when we look at the performance summary, at 1080p, the 6GB card is 6% faster than the 3 GB card, presumably due to the extra shaders.... But logic dictates that if VRAM is an issue, we should see a significant widening of the performance when we move to 1440p, right ? it doesn't happen ... same 6%.
 
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btw some sources say we may see 2080Ti at launch too.
 

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btw some sources say we may see 2080Ti at launch too.

That pictures explain the odd solder pads shown on the previous leak. So we have the USB-C for VR and a very odd looking DP connector where the DVI port used to be.
 
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I read different sources saying the RTX should have 11GB ram like the GTX 1080 Ti.
 

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the 2080ti has got 11GB DDR6 if those links I posted above are correct

Looks like they go live for pre order after the presentation on Monday and go on sale on September the 1st.
 
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the 2080ti has got 11GB DDR6 if those links I posted above are correct
If you had read the thread you would have seen a chart posted already showing that.
 
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Audio Device(s) BOSE 2.0
Power Supply Seasonic 850watt
Mouse Logitech Master MX
Keyboard Corsair K70 Cherry MX Blue
VR HMD HTC Vive + Oculus Quest 2
Software Windows 10 P
I just need pricing now.
 
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