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Could you be a little more eloquent MM?
Like maybe tell us what you don't agree with in the article?
 

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i wish I got to see that sony paycheck. that would be a nice amount of 0's...and probably followed by a .99 lol I had too.
 
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Could you be a little more eloquent MM?
Like maybe tell us what you don't agree with in the article?
Its just the same old argument with a new wrapping. Hackers break the law. For whatever reason they do it is irrelevant. Its all just sugar coated stealing plain and simple. Bullshit.
 
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I've read most of it, and the part that the hackers made games better, its difficult to accept all of it, but i do think they are one of the most important parts of the web, doing good and bad things.
 
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This is the same old argument. As old as Nvidia vs. ATI and Intel vs. AMD. The horse is dead, dug up, resurrected, beat to death, buried, dug up...........
 
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Its just the same old argument with a new wrapping. Hackers break the law. For whatever reason they do it is irrelevant. Its all just sugar coated stealing plain and simple. Bullshit.
yeah, disagreed.

pirates and destructive hackers break the law, and 99% of it is bad. but there is at least something to be recognized in the argument of overpriced digital goods, though their methods are simply wrong.

however, they are a small percentage of "hackers" to throw them all in the same category because the same word is attributed to them is also simply wrong. not all hackers are out for destruction or free shit - and many if not most cause no harm at all.
 

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I always say if your good at something don't do it for free. The hackers obviously gain something from this like a nice cushy job whearas they should be punished since it's against the law.
 
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This is the same old argument. As old as Nvidia vs. ATI and Intel vs. AMD. The horse is dead, dug up, resurrected, beat to death, buried, dug up...........
Necromancy is addictive, man . . .

. . . and, yeah, this argument has been covered from more angles than most are willing to look at it.

The effed up part, IMHO, is how some people/companies keep trying to justify their actions, like they're actually doing good, or promoting legit software or some BS or another.

ATM, I'm staying off of my soap box regarding this subject - it's getting a little worn out from how many times I've climbed up on it.
 
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yeah, disagreed.

pirates and destructive hackers break the law, and 99% of it is bad. but there is at least something to be recognized in the argument of overpriced digital goods, though their methods are simply wrong.

however, they are a small percentage of "hackers" to throw them all in the same category because the same word is attributed to them is also simply wrong. not all hackers are out for destruction or free shit - and many if not most cause no harm at all.
They break the law. What is "good" in your eyes is still illegal. If you do something against the law for good you do NOT do it for notoriety which is exactly what Hackers do.

"Hey look what I can do!!! Ain't I a hero?!" No your a hoodlum now GTFO.
 

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They break the law. What is "good" in your eyes is illegal. If you do something against the law for good you do NOT do it for notoriety which is exactly what Hackers do.

"Hey look what I can do!!! Ain't I a hero?!" No your a hoodlum.
I'm going to play devils advocate and say what about Rosa Parks who broke the law ? Or all the other blacks that did so.
 
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I'm going to play devils advocate and say what about Rosa Parks who broke the law ? Or all the other blacks that did so.
She never broke the law. It was a social taboo she broke.
 
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Just look at the Iphone were would that be without Jailbreaking im pretty certain alot of ppl woudnt of bought or would have got another phone if that didnt come about. If anything they (Apple) should be thanking them for making a good phone great.
 

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You can tell that article is corporate propaganda bullshit dressed up as an opinion peice - just the title says it all. I wonder how much that writer was paid to spout this?
 
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I have to disagree, i have Aspergers Syndrome so i know what that is like and the guy who hacked into NASA or something a few years back from Scotland he has that too.

To him it can seem okay because he isn't stealing that's his mindset because he has AS in reality he broke into a system illegally, yeah so much for Americans being the best at everything the way he got in was through a terminal someone left logged in.

Homebrew programmers and hackers are 2 separate entities that the posted article seems to be making out to be the same thing.

TBH i have to agree ALL hackers do it for a bit of notoriety and a challenge but they all know fully well what they are doing and that they are breaking laws.

There are professional hacking competitions to challenge security designers and yeah a lot of hackers end up getting jobs with real companies.

AGAIN the homebrew scene and the hacking scene are 2 different things i shouldn't need to explain the difference.
 

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She never broke the law. It was a social taboo she broke.
That's why I added that second bit on because I realised she never broke the law. Well what about all the jews that "broke" nazi germany's laws ? Like I said I'm on your side just presenting a slight flaw.
 
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Just look at the Iphone were would that be without Jailbreaking im pretty certain alot of ppl woudnt of bought or would have got another phone if that didnt come about. If anything they (Apple) should be thanking them for making a good phone great.
And every person who does it breaks the law and will cry like a baby when Apple bricks it forcing you to buy a new one.

You can tell that article is corporate propaganda bullshit dressed up as an opinion peice - just the title says it all. I wonder how much that writer was paid to spout this?
WTF? It praised hackers.
 
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I have to disagree, i have Aspergers Syndrome so i know what that is like and the guy who hacked into NASA or something a few years back from Scotland he has that too.

To him it can seem okay because he isn't stealing that's his mindset because he has AS in reality he broke into a system illegally, yeah so much for Americans being the best at everything the way he got in was through a terminal someone left logged in.

Homebrew programmers and hackers are 2 separate entities that the posted article seems to be making out to be the same thing.

TBH i have to agree ALL hackers do it for a bit of notoriety and a challenge but they all know fully well what they are doing and that they are breaking laws.

There are professional hacking competitions to challenge security designers and yeah a lot of hackers end up getting jobs with real companies.

AGAIN the homebrew scene and the hacking scene are 2 different things i shouldn't need to explain the difference.
Who said Americans were the best at everything? Don't bring your inferiority complex into this please.

That's why I added that second bit on because I realised she never broke the law. Well what about all the jews that "broke" nazi germany's laws ? Like I said I'm on your side just presenting a slight flaw.
There is an exception to every rule or law. Hackers are not in danger of genocide.
 
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WTF? It praised hackers.
It did? It criticised them quite heavily but then made the point that some good still comes out of the practice, despite it being bad. That's not praise to me.
 

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Who said Americans were the best at everything? Don't bring your inferiority complex into this please.

There is an exception to every rule or law. Hackers are not in danger of genocide.
Just pointing out that because it's a law doesn't mean its sensible.
 
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Common sense is sometimes forgotten.
Common sense is a super power these days. There are plenty of wierd laws but I don't see why hackers need to cause free software and games to be released when they hack a console. Why can't they hack it and not show how to pirate stuff ?
 

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It did? It criticised them quite heavily but then made the point that some good still comes out of the practice, despite it being bad. That's not praise to me.
agreed the end sentence was pretty much the only thing that praised them. Everything else made them seem like basement dwelling criminal kids, which is diffirent than intelligent indavidual with far superior coding skills than you or I that could actually do great things for the tech industry if given a chance instead of getting thrown in jail.
 
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Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit with sp1
#25
And every person who does it breaks the law and will cry like a baby when Apple bricks it forcing you to buy a new one.
Then Apple will be the ones who suffer as ppl will leave them in droves just look at all the fuss with drm that pissed off heaps not a good idea to piss of the majority of your users.