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Why not? Are people with unconscious biases acting against their own better knowledge? Are they consciously lying or misrepresenting the truth, even slightly? No. They are acting or speaking in accordance with what they believe is right and true. Thus, they are acting honestly. Honesty has a very tangential relation to factual accuracy, representational accuracy, or any other claim to truth.I think not.
Can't say I have. And yes, this is an extreme example. But that's the point: honesty can be defined entirely subjectively, and is a highly relational thing. Even what factors into honesty in any specific situation is extremely variable. Asking for honesty has zero effect on unconscious bias, on self-delusion, on misinformed beliefs, or other skewing factors. Thus it is ineffectual and irrelevant in this context.Cheats don't feel honest, or do they? I have never seen it used in this context. Have you read brave new world or something?
Also, I never said cheats necessarily feel honest. But it is absolutely possible for someone duplicitous in some way to feel honest because their actions are in accordance with some other goal or knowledge, despite the actions on a more local level (whether that is speech or something else) being dishonest. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive - that too is subjective.
What? That is an extremely selective and specific understanding of the term. If that's what you read into it that is obviously perfectly fine, but you're just underscoring my point: what "honest" mean is highly subjective. There is nothing at all in the term "honest" that necessarily includes humility or the lack of pride. Not whatsoever. You can very well connect the two, and believe there is a strong general connection (I don't necessarily disagree with that myself, but I dont' see that belief as anything resembling universal), but you can in no way make any claim for that being an innate and inextricable part of the term. And if you by default expect others to understand it in the same way, then you're setting yourself up for trouble. There is no necessary relation between honesty and humility or selflessness. Not whatsoever. Is someone wrongly accused in court, who then defends themselves, not honest? Is someone accurately and truthfully reporting a crime that there's a reward for information about not honest? Of course they are. The possibility for corruption and dishonesty is obviously there in both cases (we can't know or even assume that either behaviour is honest by default), but there is absolutely no direct, causal, 1:1 link between the two as you are claiming.No, honesty implies humility which is the opposite of pride which is a virtue, but corrupt. When you are honest, you are implying not your virtue, but selflessness of it.
I see you haven't played ultima.