Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Wile E, Oct 10, 2007.
LOL how much?
lol. Too much.
hmmmmm well it came off this morning while I was cooking break fest.
I'm running at 4.3Ghz stable so far 14 hours prime
ya this is a very old topic, i say let it die.
Well I was going to mess with him a little, but he knows that it has a cold bug hehe.
No use in doing to this chip IMO.
But it could be a good learner chip say for 40-50 bones........
Let it die? It could very well die it would be my first Intel IHS removal.
well, for Core 2 Users, many have tried removing the IHS to the fail of the Die Coming off with the sink, so its not worth trying to remove it, and you have to be really careful if you try to grind the sink off, but i say the reason it is there is to spread the heat out despite a bigger heatsink being installed (More Square area touches the Sink, the faster the Heat is dissipated.
No, the only reason they started using IHS's is to prevent people from crushing/cracking cores, which was a common problem before the IHS days. The IHS has absolutely no benefit to temps at all, period.
I thought the IHS was actually somewhat detrimental to core temps?
It is. That's why I said no benefit.
But I believe that with a Heatspreader such a thing is much less likely to happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOmMAasqto (wait for the AMD CPUs)
It should at least prevent total Meltdown even in absence of a good Throtteling system...
That's old/ ALl cpus are protected now.
It's when you go into bios and tell it not to do all the safety stuff and crank up the voltage really high.
Oh, I see... Thanks for the heads up.
But techincally it should at least stop the cpu from reaching the 300°C in such a short time; it should spread some of the heat away from the core, right? Maybe give the safety-mechanisms a bit more time to react.
Like if you have a intel motherboard and a intel chip it does that to stop a fry out it the fan dies in a business.
AMD started doing this a while back too.
It just lowers the voltage to a point where it will not fry and slow it down. From the way I understand it. It;s been a while from the last time I looked into it.
take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs6m_BgQc4c
now thats hot
also check this out
What is the point of removing the IHS from the CPU there is a other way to cool the CPU that I don`t know. Is it possible to put back the IHS. And can you put cooler directly on the die ?
from what i understand the point in removing it is you get lower temps. Yes you can put a cooler directly on the die. Thats how it was done in the P3 and Anthlon Xp days
Yes I know how they look like but I saw that I7 and the architecture of the die was visible. I thought that it is the same for Athlon64 x2. Because those old CPUs dies are not naked they are covered.
but wasn't the core I7 also damaged when the IHS was removed? If so it could have taken off the protective layer along with the IHS. I really am not sure if the X2 is the same way
Maybe they don't have the protective layer (or a thinner one), because they have the IHS; I suppose the protective layer brings some detrimental aspects in terms of heat dissipation aswell, so why go all the way and make things even worse, if it works without. Mobile versions of CPUs are still naked afaik (with a protection layer); at least the T7500 and T7100 I had/have in my Laptop were.
Is there still enough tension with the AM2 HS spring to keep good contact with the die once the IHS is removed?
No, you have to tweak it a little by bending it.
possibly use a shim from a SKT A to prevent any failures along with those foam pads they used on the CPUs.
I never had to use one. You just have to make sure you don't apply pressure at an angle.
minor tweaking to a clip or spring system can cause you to apply too much pressure yourself, thats how i killed a 3200 AXP CPU, bent the clip a little and then i wound up having to apply way too much pressure compared to the clip being default.
That's why you re-tweak, before trying to force it.
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