This is getting out of Control...

[theFOoL]

PHONES without Bezels? Ha!

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[Vayra86]

Duh.

this summarizes the tech industry for 95%. The vast majority is a total waste of time and innovative talent and the amount of sheep echoing retarded marketing is extreme.

This is exactly what motivates me to keep uncovering and pointing out all the bullshit I see. Awareness

Even mobile for all their innovation is still just a mini PC with a modem. Lets not act like its all special because really its not, no matter how hard you scream Premium and Unique

That is also why I simply cannot understand the rationale of buying 1000 dollar and up phones that turn obsolete of outdated in 2-3 years. Mass consumerism at its absolute worst.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Duh.

this summarizes the tech industry for 95%. The vast majority is a total waste of time and innovative talent and the amount of sheep echoing retarded marketing is extreme.

This is exactly what motivates me to keep uncovering and pointing out all the bullshit I see. Awareness

Even mobile for all their innovation is still just a mini PC with a modem. Lets not act like its all special because really its not, no matter how hard you scream Premium and Unique

That is also why I simply cannot understand the rationale of buying 1000 dollar and up phones that turn obsolete of outdated in 2-3 years. Mass consumerism at its absolute worst.

when I see a 2080Ti sli rig that costs 10x what mine does at least I know what it does better

I see a phone that costs 5x as much as my redmi 7 and I have no idea.

 

[Frick]

when I see a 2080Ti sli rig that costs 10x what mine does at least I know what it does better

I see a phone that costs 5x as much as my redmi 7 and I have no idea.

At least in the olden days of Some Years Ago AD the big name phones generally had better cameras, which for some is important. I've no idea if true now though, but to some degre I suspect it is.

 

[hat]

yeah, I don't understand the hype about phones, either. I mean, I get it if you're in high school... always having the latest iPhone is a status symbol... but once you become an adult I just don't get it. There's not much someone can do with a $1000 phone that I can't with my... $60? phone that I've had for over a year now... well, besides suffer from issues that come with being at the cutting edge.

I've gone through a few phones, all for specific reasons...

Started with Nexus 4 on Straight Talk. I'd probably still have it if I didn't stupidly jump into water with it.
Nexus 4 died, so replaced it with an LG Optimus Dynamic. Now that phone was genuinely bad, I could understand anyone upgrading from it.
Replaced the LG Optimus Dynamic with a ZTE Force 4G. The dust at my old job kinda destroyed it. Left Straight Talk for TextNow with this phone, because it was cheaper.
Replaced the ZTE Phone with a Motorola Moto G when I got a less dusty job. Had it for a good while, dropped it, destroyed screen.
Replaced destroyed Moto G with an LG Volt 4G.
Replaced LG Volt 4G with a Samsung Galaxy S4, mostly because I switched from TextNow to FreedomPop with this phone. It was a curse in disguise... FreedomPop service, while free, relied on mobile data for calling (this was bad) and 500 texts/500mb per month didn't go very far. The phone itself was also bad. It was plagued with battery issues.
Replaced crappy S4 with current Samsung J7 Sky Pro. No issues, keeping it until it blows up. This also marks the transition from Freedompop to Tracfone. Not going back, Freedompop relied on mobile data for everything and you only got 500MB/mo for free. Now I pay $15/mo but it's worth not having to deal with Freedompop. I get 500 call minutes (which I barely ever use), 500 texts, and 500mb data with the $15 plan. Sometimes texts run out, so I buy an extra 1000 for $10 every once in a while.

 

[Voluman]

Soo, whats new about it?
Everyone knows (?) thats the deal nowadays, every company want you to buy their sh*t (a bit vague simplicity, but point taken i hope) and more frequently possibly. Maybe there are people in the world who actually need the 'new', feature, power, etc, but everyone all time? No way.
You can still vote with your wallet, but it seems marketers on the winning side...

 

[repman244]

They have to sell something "new". Resolution is at it's maximum with no benefits if you increase it, battery is the best li-ion can offer, and I don't see major performance difference anymore.
So the only thing left is to incrementally downsize the bezels and sell it as something revolutionary. For me there is no major progress in mobile industry, I still use my phone for calls and texts and for internet/maps - which you can do on a 5-6 year old smartphone as well.

 

[hat]

Well, as long as I don't buy a new phone all the time, my wallet wins that battle... yeah? Unfortunately all these smartphones constantly being made seems like a waste, though...

 

[dgianstefani]

I think a lot of people here don't appreciate phones, and that's translating into what you choose to understand.

Ok, you can't tell the difference between your $150 budget redmi and a $1k S10+/Iphone 11 Pro, but most people can, and it's because they aren't choosing to be ignorant.

High end phones these days are more powerful than your average office PC, or a $1k build from a couple years ago, and they achieve this while being powered by a small battery for entire work days.

Couple that with camera setups which rival low end DSLRs, screens which when held closer to the face than your typical TV or laptop outperform those screens in every area, storage options in the 1TB/500GB range, audio quality better than any mp3 player and most inbuilt laptop DACs, and connectivity that's convenient, fast and pretty secure gives you a device that is master of none but pretty damn excellent at everything.

Sure, my phone isn't replacing my laptop, but I don't need it to. My PC is there when I need it, and my phone is on me for everything else.

The waste is primarily from the budget sector as always, my Dad is rocking my old S5 from 5 years ago, my Mum is using my S7, both with replaced batteries. Quality products are built to last, and smartphones aren't really any different. It's a circular economy with this tech, and that's pretty obvious if you care to look.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Ok, you can't tell the difference between your $150 budget redmi and a $1k S10+/Iphone 11 Pro, but most people can, and it's because they aren't choosing to be ignorant.

I don't think they can.

High end phones these days are more powerful than your average office PC

yes,but they're still less functional,a phone will never be a pc

 

[dgianstefani]

Even for stuff like cycling computers, my waterproof S10+ ceramic can be mounted on my handlebars and used for live GPS maps, speed, HR, glancing at messages, taking calls on my buds etc.

The point is it's one (potentially) expensive device that replaces 10's of other (potentially) slightly less expensive devices.

I don't see how that is wasteful or overpriced.

Don't be so sure lmao. Full Linux is running natively on smartphones these days when placed into dock mode.

I don't think they can.

yes,but they're still less functional,a phone will never be a pc

 

[cucker tarlson]

Even for stuff like cycling computers, my waterproof S10+ ceramic can be mounted on my handlebars and used for live GPS maps, speed, HR, glancing at messages, taking calls on my buds etc.

any modern phone can do that
the problem is ridiculous price premium for same functionality

what can you do with that s10+ that a phone half price can't ?

 

[dgianstefani]

It's not the same functionality though.

Is a 2080ti the same functionality as a 1050ti? Just because they both process graphics just fine?

 

[cucker tarlson]

It's not the same functionality though.

what can you do with that s10+ that a phone half price can't ?
expensive phones are for showing off.

audio ? please,who uses wired headphones with their phone anymore

 

[dgianstefani]

Yeah it's true, i can watch movies on a budget redmi just like I can on my 65" OLED, there's no difference because I can watch movies on both right.

The concept of user experience and quality of content/creation, plus speed/battery/longevity, software quality.

I mean, why buy a 2k office laptop when you can just buy a chromebook? They both process word documents right?

But keep arguing your false equivalency just to prove some point?

 

[cucker tarlson]

Yeah it's true, i can watch movies on a budget redmi just like I can on my 65" OLED, there's no difference because I can watch movies on both right.

The concept of user experience and quality of content/creation, plus speed/battery/longevity, software quality.

I mean, why buy a 2k office laptop when you can just buy a chromebook? They both process word documents right?

But keep arguing your false equivalency just to prove some point?

I think there's a lot more to be gained from working on improving physical attributes of a phone for functionality rather than specs.
I guess you can have a better camera on more expensive phone.But for functional purposes - they're the same.

what do you do first when you need a workstation pc - transform your working space into a workstation.now do that with a normal phone but one with a faster cpu.

 

[hat]

Comparing a phone to a 65" TV... doesn't answer the question...

You compare a 1050 to a 2080. I give you that. Sure, your s10 can perform better in some demanding applications than my crappy phone can. So, if you're big into mobile gaming, fine... but I haven't heard of any other demanding apps for phones...

 

[dgianstefani]

K guys, enjoy being lost in the past because you refuse to understand progress and potential.

I'm not going to write a dissertation on all the ways to utilise portable computing power just because you like being spoonfed.

 

[cucker tarlson]

K guys, enjoy being lost in the past because you refuse to understand progress and potential.

I'm not going to write a dissertation on all the ways to utilise portable computing power just because you like being spoonfed.

how is not having the latest phone anything like being stuck in the past ?
dude,you're tripping balls about that s10+ of yours.

that said,I would really like a 120hz display on mine.I guess that could at least sort of justify the price.

 

[dgianstefani]

Since when was this about having the latest phone? I used mine as an example to refute points about wastage.

Stop projecting.

 

[AsRock]

yeah, I don't understand the hype about phones, either. I mean, I get it if you're in high school... always having the latest iPhone is a status symbol... but once you become an adult I just don't get it. There's not much someone can do with a $1000 phone that I can't with my... $60? phone that I've had for over a year now... well, besides suffer from issues that come with being at the cutting edge.

I've gone through a few phones, all for specific reasons...

Started with Nexus 4 on Straight Talk. I'd probably still have it if I didn't stupidly jump into water with it.
Nexus 4 died, so replaced it with an LG Optimus Dynamic. Now that phone was genuinely bad, I could understand anyone upgrading from it.
Replaced the LG Optimus Dynamic with a ZTE Force 4G. The dust at my old job kinda destroyed it. Left Straight Talk for TextNow with this phone, because it was cheaper.
Replaced the ZTE Phone with a Motorola Moto G when I got a less dusty job. Had it for a good while, dropped it, destroyed screen.
Replaced destroyed Moto G with an LG Volt 4G.
Replaced LG Volt 4G with a Samsung Galaxy S4, mostly because I switched from TextNow to FreedomPop with this phone. It was a curse in disguise... FreedomPop service, while free, relied on mobile data for calling (this was bad) and 500 texts/500mb per month didn't go very far. The phone itself was also bad. It was plagued with battery issues.
Replaced crappy S4 with current Samsung J7 Sky Pro. No issues, keeping it until it blows up. This also marks the transition from Freedompop to Tracfone. Not going back, Freedompop relied on mobile data for everything and you only got 500MB/mo for free. Now I pay $15/mo but it's worth not having to deal with Freedompop. I get 500 call minutes (which I barely ever use), 500 texts, and 500mb data with the $15 plan. Sometimes texts run out, so I buy an extra 1000 for $10 every once in a while.

I've gone though a few too, actually only 2 in 15 years haha.

Don't like them or trust them.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I've gone though a few too, actually only 2 in 15 years haha.

Don't like'n or do i trust them.

I was quite blown away when I bough a phone last year,this thing can pretty much do casual internet as fast as my 2015 ultrabook.Reading word and pdf - no problem.Split screen - no problem.

I just don't know how much further we can improve it without changing the physical shape of a phone.Dual/foldable phone is a must before I upgrade this one.There's just no returns for cramming faster components into it when you don't game.

 

[R0H1T]

That's hilarious people going after $1000 phones & defending $1299.99 cards

Pretty sure in a blind test, without stressing the GPU all that much, you can't tell the difference between a 1650 Super & 2080Ti either!

 

[cucker tarlson]

That's hilarious people going after $1000 phones & defending $1299.99 cards

not defending $1200 cards,if you could read and comprehend that would be great.
just saying there are some easily recognizeable returns
only thing that a mobile phone is better for than a purpose specific device is mobile phoning

mobile gaming-switch is lightyears ahead
pictures - a normal digital camera
mobile working - ultrabook/tablet

 

[R0H1T]

And if you could present your point better that'd be great as well. You do know that $1000 phones have more memory, better camera, more storage, faster LTE/Wifi, better screen & faster processor, better build quality et al? So remind us why you can't differentiate between an S10 & redmi whatever you have?

And btw I prefer premium specs at great prices, some $230 for SD845 like this here ~

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