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Hello! I bought hp omen notebook last month, and since then i am trying to get a perfect undervolt settings.
My specs are: Nvidia geforce 1070 max-q 8 gb and intel i7-8750h. My cpu can reach up to 97 ℃, and that's why i am having some troubles in some games.
So, i will attach some screenshots, maybe you will be able to help me. I am new to this kind of things, so please, don't blame me for stupid questions^^. Thanks in advance!
 

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those kind of temps are normal in a gaming laptop so is throttling..

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what happens when plugged in, fan on performance, power scheme performance?
edit: there is a cooling policy in advanced power profile, try it
 

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The heatsink and fan that your HP Omen is using is not adequate to dissipate the heat being generated by your CPU and GPU. Many users improve cooling by replacing the thermal paste but this might void your warranty or you could damage your laptop if you are not careful.

For gaming, I would reduce the FIVR Turbo Ratio Limits. This will slow down your CPU and reduce heat. Start by setting them all to 36. The goal is to prevent thermal throttling. You do not want your CPU hitting 97°C when gaming or performance will not be smooth.

Here are some Cinebench R20 examples from other users running the same 8750H. Same CPU, better cooling.
 
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additional you can also buy a laptop cooling pad helps dissipate heat
 

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additional you can also buy a laptop cooling pad helps dissipate heat
Already bought it:)

The heatsink and fan that your HP Omen is using is not adequate to dissipate the heat being generated by your CPU and GPU. Many users improve cooling by replacing the thermal paste but this might void your warranty or you could damage your laptop if you are not careful.

For gaming, I would reduce the FIVR Turbo Ratio Limits. This will slow down your CPU and reduce heat. Start by setting them all to 36. The goal is to prevent thermal throttling. You do not want your CPU hitting 97°C when gaming or performance will not be smooth.

Here are some Cinebench R20 examples from other users running the same 8750H. Same CPU, better cooling.
Thanks for the big reply. I will try it, but I don’t want to low so much power to processor, but we’ll see what will happen. Thanks!

what happens when plugged in, fan on performance, power scheme performance?
edit: there is a cooling policy in advanced power profile, try it
I am trying this one. It says: “comfort”. Maybe it will help me to cool the system
 

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no, this one reduces performance and like cool n quiet. try the performance choice on the right;
also enable cooling policy in windows power scheme advanced settings, that will enable more fan cooling before throttling ,to maintain performance.
 

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no, this one reduces performance and like cool n quiet. try the performance choice on the right;
also enable cooling policy in windows power scheme advanced settings, that will enable more fan cooling before throttling ,to maintain performance.
In windows power scheme it’s stays on “active”. And I will try performance option:)
 
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I have a similar configuration. HP omen with i7-9750h and 1660ti... Yes, the processor gets hot up to 97C. The only way to get it under control is with both, undervolting and setting TPL to 30-35 W while gaming and then change it to 45-50W while doing other things. I didn't find any other way. Undervolting GPU also can help. Also, profiles in omen command center can help cool things when you set it to comfort. On default fan is very slow...
 
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The heatsink and fan that your HP Omen is using is not adequate to dissipate the heat being generated by your CPU and GPU. Many users improve cooling by replacing the thermal paste but this might void your warranty or you could damage your laptop if you are not careful.

For gaming, I would reduce the FIVR Turbo Ratio Limits. This will slow down your CPU and reduce heat. Start by setting them all to 36. The goal is to prevent thermal throttling. You do not want your CPU hitting 97°C when gaming or performance will not be smooth.

Here are some Cinebench R20 examples from other users running the same 8750H. Same CPU, better cooling.
He can open his laptop and put thermal paste without voiding the warranty if the laptop has any left. In the US, we are able to do self repair on laptops, I beleive the FTC, federal trade commission, sent out letters to computer companies about self repair policies last year.

Hello! I bought hp omen notebook last month, and since then i am trying to get a perfect undervolt settings.
My specs are: Nvidia geforce 1070 max-q 8 gb and intel i7-8750h. My cpu can reach up to 97 ℃, and that's why i am having some troubles in some games.
So, i will attach some screenshots, maybe you will be able to help me. I am new to this kind of things, so please, don't blame me for stupid questions^^. Thanks in advance!
I once had a laptop with that processor, a msi ge73. During gaming the processor would only get upto 80C at most. When running BOINC at the processor at 100% the processor would get upto 91C but it would throttle to around 3.2ghz.
If the processor gets to 97c while gaming, I think you would have to repaste it with fresh thermal compound or check for dust in the small heat sinks of the laptop.
If it gets that high while only on gaming, and still gets that high while heat sinks are clean and maybe fresh thermal paste, then the laptop's cooling fans and heat sink really suck. It's a bad cooling design on HP's part.
Or check is the laptop's fan profile on set on a lower setting. That might be one of the causes for such high temps whiling gaming.
 
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think how big a desktop cpu cooler is and gpu cooler and try and imagine putting similar power in a laptop.. okay even half the desktop power in a modern thin laptop and it should be pretty obvious why 100C and throttling comes into play..

they are designed to power throttle.. 97 C isnt hot its normal..

trog
 

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Intel recommends that if manufacturers are going to use a CPU with a 45 Watt TDP rating, the included cooling solution should be able to handle this level of heat dissipation without having to rely on thermal throttling. The cooling solution HP is using on this laptop model is inadequate. This is not the first temperature related complaint about this model. Forcing owners to under volt their laptops and perform other tricks just so they can use their CPU at its Intel rated speed is a sign of a manufacturer that has lost its way.

Check out laptops with the 8750H or 9750H built on the Tongfang chassis. They put a little more effort into adequate cooling.
 
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think how big a desktop cpu cooler is and gpu cooler and try and imagine putting similar power in a laptop.. okay even half the desktop power in a modern thin laptop and it should be pretty obvious why 100C and throttling comes into play..

they are designed to power throttle.. 97 C isnt hot its normal..

trog

unless it's an enterprise made expensive ZBOOK, from HPe, they usually built like tanks, dont throttle and perform fluidly. Of course those are workstations, but they are very suitable for heavy gaming, and perform top notch, specifically so the roomy 17 inchers-more place for cooling.
 
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Intel recommends that if manufacturers are going to use a CPU with a 45 Watt TDP rating, the included cooling solution should be able to handle this level of heat dissipation without having to rely on thermal throttling. The cooling solution HP is using on this laptop model is inadequate. This is not the first temperature related complaint about this model. Forcing owners to under volt their laptops and perform other tricks just so they can use their CPU at its Intel rated speed is a sign of a manufacturer that has lost its way.

Check out laptops with the 8750H or 9750H built on the Tongfang chassis. They put a little more effort into adequate cooling.
Alot of laptops with that processor thermal throttled. What intel "recommends" and what laptop comapanies make the cooling is different. Some companies like and will cheap out on the cooling solutions.
 
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contrary to what some people seem to think.. intel cpus are quite happy at 97 C when working hard..

its not about cutting corner its about fashion.. fashion dictates a laptop should be as thin and light as possible.. fashion dosnt fit in with keeping a laptop any cooler than it has to be.. 97 C or a throttled down 100 C is the modern norm for a high performance gaming laptop.. its what modern fashion demands..

laptop makers have to comply with fashion... if they dont people will not buy their products.. end of story..

trog
 
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