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I find am offended by that... Why wouldn't you want him to buy a pos? :laugh:

Maybe if it was a Pos Pc Sound Card we'd be talkin! :D
 

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Just my two cents . . . I'd opt for the X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro (or whatever their current equivalent is). Although there are only a few games that support the use of the onboard 64MB X-RAM, the audio processor on these cards can handle a ton more channels at a higher quality than the lower cards can, and take even more work of the CPU for gaming. I've had Doom3 and Quake4 running before, both with EAX 5.0 enabled, and I think the highest number of sounds I recorded that were loaded up was somewhere near 157 (according to the Doom3 engine) at 44.1 kHz - even though the card is rated at a max of 124 - with no crackling, popping, snapping, screeching or other audio noise. The audio processor also runs true 24-bit in both playback and recording whereas most of Creative's lower card models only support 24-bit at certain frequencies.

I can say from experience, as I owned an Xtreme Gamer before I returned it for the XG Fatal1ty Pro - there was a night and day difference between the cards. The F-Pro was able to play more sounds, sounded better, and hell, even the 3D sound through some cheap-o gaming headphones was superb (and it has made a ton of difference gaming in D3 or Q4!).

Downfall, though, the Xtreme Gamer Fala1ty Pro is about $150 - nearly twice as much as the Xtreme Gamer or Xtreme Music. Also, the F-Pro is even more of a BUS hog than the lower cards are, and if you're running nVidia hardware (even a NSB or SSB chipset), there's always a possiblity you'll run into playback issues (even with the lower cards, but, the higher the BUS dependancy, the more frequent the problem) - if you can manually set your PCI BUS freq, though, you might be able to circumvent that problem.

Oh, and the F-Pro can also be connected to your front panel connectors (I don't remember the XG having the F/P connector), but it requires a little work, unless you buy the $80 Front Panel I/O drive.

Just to mention - as I thought this was a bit odd when I first saw it - but the XG F-Pro is the first audio processor I have ever seen that employs the use of a heat sink. Crazy.

Hoep this helps, if you've got some more questions about the card, just ask man :toast:


Edit: wanted to mention - the drivers can still be a little buggy at times, especially for Vista users. I had to run with the drivers on the installation CD for the longest time, as the update driver provided by Creative was giving me loud screeching with CMSS-3D and EAX 5.0 - but that went away once I had the ASUS mobo. Just to make sure, I lowered the PCI BUS latency in the BIOS to 32 from the native 64, and assigned the X-Fi's PCI slot an IRQ number that wasn't being used - no more problems at all, and the update driver worked perfectly fine.

Driver isues have also been buggy for their co-branded cards, from what I hear, and no one is sure when any of those are going to be released or 100% non-issue. Creative also supposedly has a PCI-e x16 card in the works to allieviate BUS hogging on the slower PCI slots, but I can't really see any gamer or performance enthusiast willing to sacrifice an x16 slot for an audio card.

The X-Fi F-Pro does support 24-bit lossless audio ripping, although it takes a lot of time (45+ minutes for a 1hr CD on my rig).

Also, try to not go to Creative's site, as they update all the time, and re-write a ton of their crap as they make mistakes and correct them. I usually use the Soundblaster site, http://www.soundblaster.com/, although it's not updated as frequently, the info presented tends to be more correct than what's found on Creative's main site.
 
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Just my two cents . . . I'd opt for the X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro (or whatever their current equivalent is). Although there are only a few games that support the use of the onboard 64MB X-RAM, the audio processor on these cards can handle a ton more channels at a higher quality than the lower cards can, and take even more work of the CPU for gaming. I've had Doom3 and Quake4 running before, both with EAX 5.0 enabled, and I think the highest number of sounds I recorded that were loaded up was somewhere near 157 (according to the Doom3 engine) at 44.1 kHz - even though the card is rated at a max of 124 - with no crackling, popping, snapping, screeching or other audio noise. The audio processor also runs true 24-bit in both playback and recording whereas most of Creative's lower card models only support 24-bit at certain frequencies.

I can say from experience, as I owned an Xtreme Gamer before I returned it for the XG Fatal1ty Pro - there was a night and day difference between the cards. The F-Pro was able to play more sounds, sounded better, and hell, even the 3D sound through some cheap-o gaming headphones was superb (and it has made a ton of difference gaming in D3 or Q4!).

Downfall, though, the Xtreme Gamer Fala1ty Pro is about $150 - nearly twice as much as the Xtreme Gamer or Xtreme Music. Also, the F-Pro is even more of a BUS hog than the lower cards are, and if you're running nVidia hardware (even a NSB or SSB chipset), there's always a possiblity you'll run into playback issues (even with the lower cards, but, the higher the BUS dependancy, the more frequent the problem) - if you can manually set your PCI BUS freq, though, you might be able to circumvent that problem.

Oh, and the F-Pro can also be connected to your front panel connectors (I don't remember the XG having the F/P connector), but it requires a little work, unless you buy the $80 Front Panel I/O drive.

Just to mention - as I thought this was a bit odd when I first saw it - but the XG F-Pro is the first audio processor I have ever seen that employs the use of a heat sink. Crazy.

Hoep this helps, if you've got some more questions about the card, just ask man :toast:

Last time I checked all the x-fi's use the same processor, it's just the FP connection and extra console that comes with them that makes the difference aside from memory. Mine has 2mb of hynix memory, and really from what I've read the 64mb hasn't been proven to do anything major, maybe helps with the extra number of sounds, but as far as helping with performance I've heard it's been a 50/50 crapshoot with game dev's and support. I have no need for FP since I'm using 5.1 headset, and my FP is 2 channel and mic ports, plus my headset has like 10ft of cable, so no worries there :D. Also my XtremeGamer has a heatsink installed on it, my card I believe is the second revision of the Xtreme series that includes heatsinks and minor revisions.

Thank you for your input though, good stuff to know. And maybe the Fatal1ty card is able to do more sounds due to the x-ram, but really this card is sufficient for me and it had a great price point. I'm definately happier with the sound card than I was with on-board, I didn't think the difference would be this good!

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Edit: wanted to mention - the drivers can still be a little buggy at times, especially for Vista users. I had to run with the drivers on the installation CD for the longest time, as the update driver provided by Creative was giving me loud screeching with CMSS-3D and EAX 5.0 - but that went away once I had the ASUS mobo. Just to make sure, I lowered the PCI BUS latency in the BIOS to 32 from the native 64, and assigned the X-Fi's PCI slot an IRQ number that wasn't being used - no more problems at all, and the update driver worked perfectly fine.

Driver isues have also been buggy for their co-branded cards, from what I hear, and no one is sure when any of those are going to be released or 100% non-issue. Creative also supposedly has a PCI-e x16 card in the works to allieviate BUS hogging on the slower PCI slots, but I can't really see any gamer or performance enthusiast willing to sacrifice an x16 slot for an audio card.

The X-Fi F-Pro does support 24-bit lossless audio ripping, although it takes a lot of time (45+ minutes for a 1hr CD on my rig).

Also, try to not go to Creative's site, as they update all the time, and re-write a ton of their crap as they make mistakes and correct them. I usually use the Soundblaster site, http://www.soundblaster.com/, although it's not updated as frequently, the info presented tends to be more correct than what's found on Creative's main site.

Yeah, I've read about Vista issues and ALchemy. It seems it's getting better, but I am not planning on returning to ME2 err Vista any time soon. It was nice, but getting back on XP was the way to go for me, but can't say there aren't enough flavor's of OS's anymore! I just hope someday MS makes a more streamlined performance based OS in the future.

I haven't had much for sound issues, I am using the CD drivers and it's doing good so far. Again, thanks for the info! Good stuff to know, especially for anyone reading this considering going to X-Fi!

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it's defi amazing, honestly.

You're right, though, there isn't much difference in performance with or without the X-RAM. Currently, I think there's only a couple of games that support the use of the X-RAM. For those that do, it supposedly helps to boost performance even more as sounds would be *theorhetically* loaded directly into the card's onboard RAM instead of taking up space in system MEM. But, devs are slow to support it, Creative isn't really pushing it that much - it's not honestly needed, y'know?
 

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Yeah, I've read about Vista issues and ALchemy. It seems it's getting better, but I am not planning on returning to ME2 err Vista any time soon. It was nice, but getting back on XP was the way to go for me, but can't say there aren't enough flavor's of OS's anymore! I just hope someday MS makes a more streamlined performance based OS in the future.

I haven't had much for sound issues, I am using the CD drivers and it's doing good so far. Again, thanks for the info! Good stuff to know, especially for anyone reading this considering going to X-Fi!

... sorry bout the double post!

No prob - I've had mine quite a while and every now and then I run into some odd issue I need to iron out - just stoopid stuff, really, that makes no sense. Like, once I had an issue where I couldn't get any game to load via EAX or OpenAL, and hardware accelration was turned off in DXDiag. I was losing my mind trying to figure out why it was doing this, and tech support was dumbfounded, too. Couldn't find any info on the net . . . turned out, it was due to the fact I had a USB webcam plugged into the back of the rig! No drivers were installed for it, it wasn't even on, just plugged in! Once it was unplugged, everything worked peachy again - I have NO IDEA why it did that, so . . . Otherwise, the card is great and I haven't really had any problems at all.

They really are good cards with some good 'ol TLC :toast:
 

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Hehe, that is weird, but believable, I hear these cards can be touchy. So far so good for me. I haven't gamed much yet in BF2 or 2142, I'm debating on TF2...I never played the original TF, but I really want TF2...

Right now I'm still going through my tunes and seeing what I can notice that with on-board wasn't there before.

You should start an X-Fi Support Thread dude, seems you have some good knowlege that could help quite a few people.
 

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You should start an X-Fi Support Thread dude, seems you have some good knowlege that could help quite a few people.

I'll defi consider it - I know for a fact that Creative's Tech Support is about as helpful as a spoon at a steakhouse, and Creative's support forums are bogged down with redundant, pointless questions and it's hard to find answers for crap. If I don't know how to fix it, I've got an idea where to start, or where to look up the info that might help.

yeah . . . I'll defi give it some serious thought :toast:
 

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You should man! One more good helpful resource that TPU viewers could use and have the ability to easily find and read through for without scouring the web for answers to problems you can answer! I want to see you do it! You have my support man.

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I might start that up tomorrow evening, as I plan on writing a guide for fabricating/modding a side panel window too (I'm doing that mod myself tomorrow, it should hopefully turn out well), as I noticed there ins't much of a guide for such a mod in the articles section. I figure I'll prob open an X-Fi support *club* thread along with all the others running around.
 
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dunno if anybody wants to try these drivers for creative cards, stupid amount of options lol

I would, but I found this:

Source: http://kb.kxproject.lugosoft.com/list.html

Unsupported Cards
Card name: Model: Chip: Notes:*
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Dell OEM
Soundblaster Live! 24 Bit
Soundblaster Live! 24 Bit
Soundblaster Audigy LS
Soundblaster Audigy SE
Soundblaster Audigy Value
Soundblaster USB (All cards)
Soundblaster X-Fi (All cards)
EMU Pro Cards (0404/1212/1820) SB020x
SB041x
SB049x
SB031x
SB0570
SB0570
SBxxxx
SBxxxx
E-xxxx 10kx
ESI
ESI
ESI
ESI
ESI
USB
20kx
10k2 5.1
7.1
7.1
7.1
7.1
7.1
x.x
x.x
Professional Grade

Seems it's for the older Live! (most of 'em) and Audigy's (most of 'em), seems promising if they can bring it to newer hardware though. :toast:
 
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In that price range, I think that card is the best your gonna get, and by all means its not a bad card.
 

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In that price range, I think that card is the best your gonna get, and by all means its not a bad card.

I have no issues thus far with it, and the price was definately easy to deal with considering. I'm still amazed how much better everything sounds compared to my crap Soundmax on-board, man did Asus screw up choosing that chip for the P5B's...

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oh god not soundmax. . .
 
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I have no issues thus far with it, and the price was definately easy to deal with considering. I'm still amazed how much better everything sounds compared to my crap Soundmax on-board, man did Asus screw up choosing that chip for the P5B's...

:toast:

Indeed.... I loath onboard sound to start with, but that is just sickening..
 

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Indeed.... I loath onboard sound to start with, but that is just sickening..

Yeah, well I thought it was decent (not as good as my AS8's onboard Realtek), as that's what I've been used to since the 90's when I bought my last sound card. That was until I heard my buddy's setup, man I was blown away! If I wasn't so content and enjoying my tunes so much right now, I'd get the motivation to send Asus hate mail for that stupid decision. I have read a lot about the sound chip they chose for the board, and most all of it is hate and frustration, now I really understand why! :rockout:
 
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Yeah, well I thought it was decent (not as good as my AS8's onboard Realtek), as that's what I've been used to since the 90's when I bought my last sound card. That was until I heard my buddy's setup, man I was blown away! If I wasn't so content and enjoying my tunes so much right now, I'd get the motivation to send Asus hate mail for that stupid decision. I have read a lot about the sound chip they chose for the board, and most all of it is hate and frustration, now I really understand why! :rockout:

Well glad to hear that now you can enjoy your sound :toast:

I love it when I tell people to buy a "REAL" sound card, they all go why? I have 7.1 onboard...

LOL then they listen to the difference :)
 
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dell use em a lot, or did,
best onboard was on my k7n420, 256 2d buffers 64 3d, dolby etc,
 

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my P5W-DH uses Realtek, as did my Intel D101GGC - although RealTek have straightened their act up over the last coupla years, their HD audio still doesn't compare to the X-Fi.

Plus, getting away from onboard audio frees up the CPU even more. :)
 

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Well glad to hear that now you can enjoy your sound :toast:

I love it when I tell people to buy a "REAL" sound card, they all go why? I have 7.1 onboard...

LOL then they listen to the difference :)

Yep, I'm proof of it, I thought meh, I don't need a sound card, I have 7.1HD on-board and so what if some people had issues with it...LoL. It took hearing a real setup for me to realize I was stupid in thinking that, mostly because I enjoy nice sounding equipment. So lesson learned, I will have this card for quite a while I do believe.
 
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i have a x-fi extreme music too.it does the job,i wish they woud finally sort out the drivers for vista tho'

the p5k-premium i'm getting has-adi ad1988b onboard sound,is this a crappy onboard codec as well?
 
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