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can i join the club if i have a X1800XT? :(
 
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lol it does say x1k & x2k :D meaning all of the ranges :)
 

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I'm tempted to vote 1 just to make you angry :).
 

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X2. 8600GTS> X1950PRO; slamming time!

Anyway apparently some people really think the 8600GTS > X1950PRO. Their argument is indirect and incompetent! X1950PRO CLEARLY is faster in most practical usages. 3D Mark 05/06 is NOT a viable way to really scope the performance of a GPU, Driver optimisations are ALWAYS the case. With a lower fillrate and everything else, it is the reason. Okay another argument, overclocking! Not EVERY consumer who purchases a GPU will overclock, moreover the stock cooling will completely prohibit any overclocking from being possible at all-you heard me NOT EVERYONE OVERCLOCKS. Moreover half of the Nvidia SKUs are completely tight arse against Overclocking (except for good old EVGA ), if you say that it wont explode or anything, think again. My friend said that, now all he has is a PCB with several capacitors ripped off and some smear of silicon.
Wow, if that isn't the biggest load of BS I have ever heard, I don't know what is.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Biostar/8600GTS_GDDR3/5.html

If you want to talk about practical usage, look at the 1280x1024 category, the most common resolution used today. The 8600GTS wins some and loses some, but in the end they are about even. The 8600GTS of course has the benefit for DX10, so in the end the 8600GTS is in fact better because of that one little thing. You are incompotent just because you are calling other incompotent when you don't know what they hell you are talking about.

An nVidia SKUs are tight against overclocking? Are you nuts? There are more pre-overclocked nVidia SKUs there there are even ATI SKUs on the market(probably an exageration).

You are so full of crap.
 
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Wow, if that isn't the biggest load of BS I have ever heard, I don't know what is.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Biostar/8600GTS_GDDR3/5.html

If you want to talk about practical usage, look at the 1280x1024 category, the most common resolution used today. The 8600GTS wins some and loses some, but in the end they are about even. The 8600GTS of course has the benefit for DX10, so in the end the 8600GTS is in fact better because of that one little thing. You are incompotent just because you are calling other incompotent when you don't know what they hell you are talking about.

An nVidia SKUs are tight against overclocking? Are you nuts? There are more pre-overclocked nVidia SKUs there there are even ATI SKUs on the market(probably an exageration).

You are so full of crap.
Right... The 8600GTS Costs more than a X1950PRO for your information. All you could have done was NICELY say it. Not Call me full of crap. What goes around comes around mate, and you're learning it the hard way newtekie. I thought you WOULD learn from your past experiences but NO. I repeat this.

The 8600GTS Costs more, and NOT EVERYONE overlclocks as I stated. I'm saying that the Nvidia SKUs dont fully utilise the card...we can EASILY push it to 800mhz (700s is enough to rape a X1950PRO). Another problem, stock cooling. Ive USED a 8600GTS before. Don't think I make CRAP up. The stock cooler is simply not sufficient, I couldnt push it really far (it was running hot anyway... 76*C wtf...). With a VF900CU bolted on.... it soared at 800mhz.

Be a bit more considerate for the GENERAL CONSUMER. Us enthusiasts are a MINORITY of the computer users. 8600GTS is a good card but has SOME flaws. You should learn some manners mate, go around like that in society and you'll find your head ripped off. As I just said you could have at least asked me POLITELY. I would have changed it but all thanks to your immaturity, I'll be immature towards you and leave it like that.

I wont be an arsehole and report you for that but, be warned, other people arennt so impressed of what you just blurted out.

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well on the sheer basis of bang for buck x1950pro is £70 spend the extra £25-£30 and you can have a x1950xt which is roughly the same price as 8600gt a good gts is around the £140 marker personal opinion id still have the x1950pro over the 8600gts not because i purely own 2 of them and not because im on the ati wagon yes the 8600gts does have a couple of points dx10 one and shading the x1950pro in a few areas but simple fact it is it costs twice as much so in that review you showed where it pulls 4-5fps is it really worth spending that when you could simply oc the x1950 and make up the difference this always have and always will be a big debate over x1950's and 8600gts like the x1950 excels in shading heavy games because of its heavy shaderhorsepowers. 8600 is like the old 6600gt it grabs a few bits from the halfords show it sticks to it and quiet insane clock speeds

keep a cool head lads
 
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Yeah I think nVidia do average or above averge in games while Ati does extremely well in some games and in others it just plain stinks.

But thats just my opinion.
 
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£130 for a 256Mb 8600GTS or £136 for a 512Mb 1950XT....hmm...

The 8600GTS just isn't an option in my opinion.
 
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http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/127242

8600GTS for £112 delivered

Ive seen them sell for £105 at dabs but currently theyre out of stock.
Crappy brand, seen many of those blow up....

Even so, Spend £20-30 more and get a 1950XT. DX10 just doesn't have enough games out to warrant getting a mid-range DX10 card over a high-end DX9.
 
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Right... The 8600GTS Costs more than a X1950PRO for your information.
Really?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814122026
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102061

The cheapest GOOD brand of each. There is a cheaper x1950Pro from Jetway, but I wouldn't put a Jetway floppy drive in my computer.

All you could have done was NICELY say it. Not Call me full of crap. What goes around comes around mate, and you're learning it the hard way newtekie. I thought you WOULD learn from your past experiences but NO. I repeat this.
Well once again, you are full of crap, that is my opinion, your opinion is that anyone that says the 8600GTS is better than the x1950Pro is "incompotent". If you want people to be nice, maybe you should be nice to them first? Calling people incompotent isn't exactly nice there, "mate".

The 8600GTS Costs more, and NOT EVERYONE overlclocks as I stated.
No, the 8600GTS doesn't cost more, unless you want a terrible x1950Pro brand, see above. Once again, you don't know what you are talking about. Of course not everyone overclocks, the 8600GTS is a good overclocker, but it doesn't need to be to beat the x1950Pro, and there are ALOT of pre-overclocked 8600GTSs out there for people that don't want to do it themselves.

I'm saying that the Nvidia SKUs dont fully utilise the card...we can EASILY push it to 800mhz (700s is enough to rape a X1950PRO). Another problem, stock cooling. Ive USED a 8600GTS before. Don't think I make CRAP up. The stock cooler is simply not sufficient, I couldnt push it really far (it was running hot anyway... 76*C wtf...). With a VF900CU bolted on.... it soared at 800mhz.
The stock cooler is fine on the 8600GTS, I've used them too, don't think you are the only one who owns video cards around here. And 76C is more then acceptable for video cards, learn something before you speak.

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Theres no slander here, once again you don't know what you are talking about. PLEASE, look up what slander is.
 
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*sigh* I'm sick of these fanboi fights. Newtekie don't come in here if all you are going to do is start a fight. Your arguement is sound, your attitude stinks. Both you and tk have valid points, but neither of you is 100% right.

TK, prices vary. Here in the UK the 8600GTS is most definately more expensive than the 1950Pro (by up to £50) but as newtekie pointed out in the US there are places that sell them for the same price, and on that account there is no point in going for a 1950Pro, the 1950Pro is NOT a league ahead of the 8600GTS, and it has DX10 support. The reference cooler on the 8600GTS IS shit, only the few that use aftermarket are worth considering IMO.

In the UK however the 8600GTS is NOT an option, the 1950Pro is cheaper everywhere, even the 512Mb variants, and DX10 just is not worth the extra money at the moment.

Please both of you, Calm down! Don't turn this in to a slagging match.
 
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I'm going to nicely ask both TKPenalty and Newtekie1 to drop this.

If either of you don't comply, I'm going to ban each of you the equal term of 2 days. And trust me when I say that reading these boards as a guest is no fun...
 
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lol it does say x1k & x2k :D meaning all of the ranges :)
well how come the X1800 isnt listed??? :( you have everything else but the X1800's so I was like uh you must really hate the X1800 series cards.... *cries*
 

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Crappy brand, seen many of those blow up....

Even so, Spend £20-30 more and get a 1950XT. DX10 just doesn't have enough games out to warrant getting a mid-range DX10 card over a high-end DX9.
Sorry but when did PoV become crappy? They are one nvidia's biggest brands. Besides its just an nvidia reference card with a PoV sticker. So its exactly the same as what XFX or eVGA use.