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man, the pick of players today SUUUUUUUUUUCKed.
played a game, where team mates were adandoning me when faced with an enemy hero.
juggernaught was useless, just killing jungle creeps
riki, being invisible and just spying like the nsa

and an invoker that was stuck at level 10, and was feeding ursa(level 20)
i was level 15 :/ rest of my team mates level 11max.

had not ONE good game today.
 

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played with a friend..
he is one badass, just like me. whenever we play, we never lose a match. even if the rest of the team mates are noobs!

lol. look at my stats. im usually the one with the highest deaths XD
 
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played with a friend..
he is one badass, just like me. whenever we play, we never lose a match. even if the rest of the team mates are noobs!
Uh...
Sorry to rain down on your parade, but 2-5-6 is anything but badass when it comes to Sven.
 

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it was his first time with sven. he didnt even practice. he did what was told. he defended. he takes lina mostly.
 
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no i didnt. first time using it.

items that add debuffs like desolator (-6 armor), eye of skady (slow) etc and life steal items like sacred relic, helm of dominator does not stack with each other and with skills that apply similar mechanics (slow, life steal...) with few exceptions
aura type skills/items are stackable vladimir's offering and leoric's life steal aura stack with items above however 2 vladimir's offerings in one team doesnt stack (not 100% sure but i think vladimir stack with leoric's aura)
mjollnir/maelstrom stack on certain condition which is: whenever mjollnir/maelstrom is triggered chain lighting suppresses all other effects from items and skills except aura type skills above.

edit: just to be clear doesnt stack special effects (-6 armor with life steal) but everything else stacks (+60dmg, 25str)
 
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Lifesteal on drow isn't bad, you mostly use (manual) frost arrow on heroes anyway.

Vlads stacks with leoric's aura.

Here is a tactic me and my friend (Fernandres) have been using lately:



We go rosh at lvl 1: I take Skeleton King with vampiric aura (dual stout shields, 1 pot), while ursa goes stout shield with pots/tangos, taking fury swipes. As SK, I tank the bulk, go only out to heal with pot, if needed(depends on the stuns), Ursa heals me a second time. Ursa should hit rosh continuously, the fury swipes debuff only stays 6s on him (nerf to prevent Ursa from kiting and soloing rosh at lvl 1). To make it easier, a third teammate can take Treant and protect SK for a few instances.

When the creeps spawn rosh should be almost dead and then ursa can give the tangos to SK so he can lane. Both players are then lvl 3, almost 4. First blood bottom should be no problem.
Note that I would still build vlads on Ursa, but the opponents were getting raped so hard, he skipped it.
 
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Lifesteal on drow isn't bad, you mostly use (manual) frost arrow on heroes anyway.

Vlads stacks with leoric's aura.

Here is a tactic me and my friend (Fernandres) have been using lately:

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1118299879203970157/00C2AEA3C7975892ADE396A9B0FF523B573E8D30/

We go rosh at lvl 1: I take Skeleton King with vampiric aura (dual stout shields, 1 pot), while ursa goes stout shield with pots/tangos, taking fury swipes. As SK, I tank the bulk, go only out to heal with pot, if needed(depends on the stuns), Ursa heals me a second time. Ursa should hit rosh continuously, the fury swipes debuff only stays 6s on him (nerf to prevent Ursa from kiting and soloing rosh at lvl 1). To make it easier, a third teammate can take Treant and protect SK for a few instances.

When the creeps spawn rosh should be almost dead and then ursa can give the tangos to SK so he can lane. Both players are then lvl 3, almost 4. First blood bottom should be no problem.
Note that I would still build vlads on Ursa, but the opponents were getting raped so hard, he skipped it.

nice tactic but not possible with randoms. friend with good skill and some training vs bots are required so this can work.
i like it and i will definetely try it.

http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Unique_Attack_Modifier

Here's more on what stacks and what doesn't. You can browse each skill and it will list the thing it stacks with.

YES unique attack modifiers! couldnt remember it last night
 

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i find the aegis of the immortal to be absolutely useless to a good team.
its only good for the losing team, gives their carry a chance to come back.
other than that.. meh.
if i have a good team who can handle themselves(which is rare), i go and kill roshan alone at lvl 14-16 :p else i dont bother

funny thing, i have two friends named roshan :p
 
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i find the aegis of the immortal to be absolutely useless to a good team.
its only good for the losing team, gives their carry a chance to come back.
other than that.. meh.
if i have a good team who can handle themselves(which is rare), i go and kill roshan alone at lvl 14-16 :p else i dont bother

funny thing, i have two friends named roshan :p

point here is not aeges but to lvlup 2-3 lvls in 1st min of the game so you could have advantage for first blood at bottom line and nice +200 gold at the start of the game shared with team
 
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you know desolator doesnt stack with your frost arow (or what ever was name of your first skill)?

You shouldn't leave Frost Arrow on autocast anyway, you should be orbwalking (individually cast it) but even given that, Desolator is a bad item on Drow. Manta Style would add a ton of survivability, Monkey King Bar would add more damage for only slightly more gold, and Butterfly would be best case. Between the need for orbwalking and the steep cost, Deso is just not a solid item.

The more concerning item is Soul Booster. I understand the need for survivability, but for only 600g more you could have gotten a Black King Bar which basically would buy you 4-10 seconds of magic immunity which would keep you alive for a pretty long time allowing you to dps like a boss, and adds some passive HP and Damage. The biggest problem with getting Soul Booster on physical dps carries is that you have nowhere to go with it. You spend 3300 Gold on an item that you can't really upgrade into something useful (Bloodstone is excellent on Semi-Carry Int heroes, but gives minimal benefit on Agi Carries).

items that add debuffs like desolator (-6 armor), eye of skady (slow) etc and life steal items like sacred relic, helm of dominator does not stack with each other and with skills that apply similar mechanics (slow, life steal...) with few exceptions
aura type skills/items are stackable vladimir's offering and leoric's life steal aura stack with items above however 2 vladimir's offerings in one team doesnt stack (not 100% sure but i think vladimir stack with leoric's aura)
mjollnir/maelstrom stack on certain condition which is: whenever mjollnir/maelstrom is triggered chain lighting suppresses all other effects from items and skills except aura type skills above.

edit: just to be clear doesnt stack special effects (-6 armor with life steal) but everything else stacks (+60dmg, 25str)

That's... mildly inaccurate. Certain "Orb Effects" or "Attack Modifiers" as they are called in DotA 2 do stack, it has nothing to do with them applying debuffs. They stack in funky ways. For example, Eye of Skadi on all ranged heroes does not count as an Orb Effect. As you mentioned, Mjollnir/Maelstrom only counts as a modifier when it procs, so if it procs in 1/4 attacks and you had say a Satanic, you would steal life for the 3 attacks it didn't proc. On top of that, a lot of things mimic modifiers aren't actually--Skeleton Kings Lifesteal Aura does stack with Vlad's, Lifestealers Feast does stack with other instances of lifesteal because it's an "on-proc" ability not an orb effect.

On top of all that, there are weird instances like Luna's Glaives that interact oddly. The first target steals life, but everything hit by the bounces will not. Skadi and Diffusal Blade flat out don't work as far as I know. She will attack as normal, but never burn mana or slow.

TL;DR - It's complicated as fuck, but don't stack attack modifiers unless you're positive it works.

Here is a tactic me and my friend (Fernandres) have been using lately:

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1118299879203970157/00C2AEA3C7975892ADE396A9B0FF523B573E8D30/

We go rosh at lvl 1: I take Skeleton King with vampiric aura (dual stout shields, 1 pot), while ursa goes stout shield with pots/tangos, taking fury swipes. As SK, I tank the bulk, go only out to heal with pot, if needed(depends on the stuns), Ursa heals me a second time. Ursa should hit rosh continuously, the fury swipes debuff only stays 6s on him (nerf to prevent Ursa from kiting and soloing rosh at lvl 1). To make it easier, a third teammate can take Treant and protect SK for a few instances.

Here's what happens when that strat is detected ; http://dotabuff.com/matches/137926405

i find the aegis of the immortal to be absolutely useless to a good team.
its only good for the losing team, gives their carry a chance to come back.
other than that.. meh.
if i have a good team who can handle themselves(which is rare), i go and kill roshan alone at lvl 14-16 :p else i dont bother

When you're playing at low levels that's true, but once you get to players who can actually co-ordinate, it's a game changer. Mostly Aegis is just a overly glorified support item on par for a Mek or Pipe.
 

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point here is not aeges but to lvlup 2-3 lvls in 1st min of the game so you could have advantage for first blood at bottom line and nice +200 gold at the start of the game shared with team

its easy to get first blood :p most players in the low levels chicken out when you attack them.
also most people only try to get last hits, which makes their creeps die faster, leaving me open to hit them.
 
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its easy to get first blood :p most players in the low levels chicken out when you attack them.
also most people only try to get last hits, which makes their creeps die faster, leaving me open to hit them.

this made me laugh :D good players only last hit and deny at start, so the other side pushes, leaving them open to get ganked..
 

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psuh? who pushes? i go stemp by step. i dont go past the river untill im sure i can take them on. plus aftr the mid tower goes down, i shift to top or bottom.
 
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just a tip to get faster through the tutorials (you get items for sniper):

in console:
enable cheats: sv_cheats 1
pick your timescale(default 1.0): host_timescale x.x

I played it with timescale 1.66 and 2.0
 
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Should have tried to increase my level more so that now, with the game open to anyone, I wouldn't have lvl1+no exp players on my team.
This limited mode isn't that good either.
 
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Okay, so I just got the latest patch wherein you get Abbadon.

So I wanted to try out this new hero (by playing against bots first), and I noticed once its time to pick your hero, Abbadon is not there. The same goes for Elder Titan and Skywrath Mage

But I do recall back then that I was able to play Elder Titan against bots :/

Currently on Lvl. 2 with 7 wins and (this is very embarrassing to say) 13 losses and 15 abbandons (Sorry for that, I just have very shitty internet connection)

I wonder why I don't have Skywrath, Elder Titan, and Abbadon in the Heroes pool against bots? (Haven't tried online tho)
 

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abaddon is new eh? no wonder my partner sucked.

now that the beta is over, people are so poo.

JP what do you mean by limited mode :s
 
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When you start doing the beginners quest/tutorial, at the 4th or 5th level (where you have to destroy mid-lane towers), you get to pick heroes from a limited selection (Valve did it so that new players dont get overwhelmed).

This limitation applies to other match modes outside the tutorial too.

Alot of people made noise about it, and I think now it has been fixed: http://store.steampowered.com/news/11084/

TRAINING
- Added match making option to opt out of Limited Hero mode

If, for some reason it still doesnt , just finish off the quests and the game will return to normal mode.
 
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Ahh so that's why. I'll try and finish the tutorial first and see where it goes :/
 
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It seems that Valve/Steam finally fixed the servers. Now I get around 60-100 ping on normal games here in my house and around 5 when I'm at my friends.

Time to rack up that win streak
 
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Is this game P2Win? or those microtransactions are just for fun?
 
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the microtransactions are pure for fun and you get access to the full hero roster for free.
 
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