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did you actually browse to the folder incase something is different on your machine?

yes and it just gave me the same black box
 

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Benchmark Scores boots into windows is that ok?
sorry you are using XP:eek:, that is what you do in vista. i'm not sure where it puts it's folder in XP
 

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sorry you are using XP:eek:, that is what you do in vista. i'm not sure where it puts it's folder in XP

well thank you anyways. :toast: I will try to figure it out but i sure could use alittle help.
 

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Benchmark Scores boots into windows is that ok?
try just typing Folding@Home into the search thing(in the start menu i think in xp) and see if it finds the folder
 

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Tried to create a folder (C:\Fah6) install folding home in that folder.
 

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try just typing Folding@Home into the search thing(in the start menu i think in xp) and see if it finds the folder

done and it worked too :toast:

it was
C:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\Application Data\Folding@home-gpu


I took out my user name don't want anyone to see it :p
 

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Benchmark Scores boots into windows is that ok?
done and it worked too :toast:

it was
C:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\Application Data\Folding@home-gpu

yeah, thats the one. i havent used XP for so long and i have forgoten what folders are where:laugh:



is anyone using F@H with crossfire enabled. i am geting some wierd stuff hapening here. i have the F@H 6.23 system tray one and catalyst 8.11. F@H is using 99% of one GPU and 24% of the other:wtf:. i didn't think it was possible:confused:
 

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Benchmark Scores boots into windows is that ok?
i cant disable it without bluscreening so i am just using one client so i can still play games when i want to.

what i meant is that the F@H core can not yet use 2 GPU's when crossfire is enabled. but mine is using both and that is good(although it is only using 24% of the second one it is something)
 

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@james1991 i'm just curious can you tell me how much ppd 1 hd4850 give you? thanks
 

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@james1991 i'm just curious can you tell me how much ppd 1 hd4850 give you? thanks

it used to be getting me 3200, recently it has only been geting 2400:(. and now i'm getting 1925:banghead:
 

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My 2 8800gt's are still running about 4096ppd thats down a bit but I am not running them o/c'd right now
 

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Benchmark Scores boots into windows is that ok?
My 2 8800gt's are still running about 4096ppd thats down a bit but I am not running them o/c'd right now

:( my 4850 cant compete with that
 

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Ati suck for folding that for sure.
 
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If you're reading this, you'll catch me eventually johnspack..... but not for a bit longer now that I have my instabilities ironed out!!! My dual 8800GT's are finally playing nicely.
 

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My 2 8800gt's are still running about 4096ppd thats down a bit but I am not running them o/c'd right now

my 1 8800GT is getting 4608PPD overclocked @650/1900/900(core shaders mem)
 

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done and it worked too :toast:

it was
C:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\Application Data\Folding@home-gpu


I took out my user name don't want anyone to see it :p

Why so secretive? It's just a name, unless it's Delbert or something like that.;)
 

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Why so secretive? It's just a name, unless it's Delbert or something like that.;)

no its nothing like that. I just don't want everyone to know my name

EDIT: Is 5184 PPD good for a overclocked 8800GT?
 

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no its nothing like that. I just don't want everyone to know my name

EDIT: Is 5184 PPD good for a overclocked 8800GT?

Is it a 384pt WU or a 480pt?
 

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Heheh, yeah, beertinted, you picked up a bit there, I have to fold a little bit harder now just to keep up! I finally hit top 20, but a struggle with online tournaments lately, I can't use my 280.. I've gotta bug my family for an xmas present- a 2nd folding rig! I hate sitting on an 8800gs that does nothing ug. I'm praying for a core 1.20 that solves this 2xx+g80/92 problem. Keep up the good work folders!!
 

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I could coax 5600-5700 ppd out of it with core 1.15 and 177.83 drivers. Too bad the 50xx WU's are not plentiful anymore.
 

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I could coax 5600-5700 ppd out of it with core 1.15 and 177.83 drivers. Too bad the 50xx WU's are not plentiful anymore.

right now i am getting 5400 PPD from it so i don't think it is too bad. ohwell just gonna let it fold for the night.
 

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I keep getting hit with 384 pointers, jeez.
 
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Ati suck for folding that for sure.

I'm keeping my ATI cards, just waiting for the "big bang" with a great new ATI Client!!

ATI is Canadian and ROCKS all the way :rockout: :rockout: :rockout:

PS. Even if you prefer nVidia, thanks ATI for the competition. Could you ever imagine paying less than 200 bucks for a great video card?
 
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