TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[Keullo-e]

That mobo is now paired with a 1GHz Athlon.

 

[Greenslade]

I have a government job that restricts what activities I can engage in on the web. Otherwise I would have by now.

I could understand if you were talking anout your job.
But not about something unrelated,like Retro PC stuff and the like.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I could understand if you were talking anout your job.
But not about something unrelated,like Retro PC stuff and the like.

It's just how it is and it won't change until I retire. It's all good, no worries man.

 

[Greenslade]

It's just how it is and it won't change until I retire. It's all good, no worries man.

Ok Lex it is just a shame.

 

[GreiverBlade]

It's just how it is and it won't change until I retire. It's all good, no worries man.

well, if youtube is still a thing when you retire, you have a good retirement plan/hobby
i know i would ... i missed the big "rise of the streamer/youtuber" years ago otherwise i would be a "let's player" like SorcererDave or Gopher or a Twitch streamer/youtuber like CohhCarnage iirc all 3 are same gen as me (no not core i7 ... rather i386/486 ) maybe a "retro reviewer" and "retro let's player" that would fit me too.

 

[lexluthermiester]

well, if youtube is still a thing when you retire, you have a good retirement plan/hobby

Yeah only 2 decades away..

 

[stinger608]

Yeah only 2 decades away..

Pup.

 

[Audioave10]

Yeah only 2 decades away..

Lucky You!
Also....................RIP EVGA.

 

[Greenslade]

Yeah only 2 decades away..

Thats a long time away A lot can happen in that time,

 

[GreiverBlade]

Yeah only 2 decades away..

2 and a half for me

Thats a long time away A lot can happen in that time,

as we say "qui vivras verras, advienne que pourra." in english it goes : "who will live will see, come what may"

 

[Greenslade]

2 and a half for me


as we say "qui vivras verras, advienne que pourra." in english it goes : "who will live will see, come what may"

What is the retirement age in Switzerland? It is 66 here in the UK at present.
I guess if Lex works in a Government department he would retire earlier than people who don,t work in the public sector. I have just looked at the age you can retire in the USA from 62

I have got another forum post on here about PS2 , it seems to have gone quiet on there.
What I would like to know is do I need the HDD to play games off a ps2 disc.?
Or can I use it without it?
Or would I be better off buying a PS2 Slim?
All I want to do is put a game in the unit and play the game as you do on a PC. The network card is expensive at £13 for the IDE one or £16 for the SATA one plus the extras you have to pay on ALI Express.?
What I would like to know is why arn,t sellers not selling one with the expansion card on it.?I see I can get them cheaper would I be ok with IDE?

SATA/IDE Interface Network Card For PS2 Game Console Adapter SATA Socket HDD For Sony PS 2 Fat Sata Socket Hard Drive​

This is what I wanted to know playing a game that is in the PS2 drive.

The only video I came across

 

[GreiverBlade]

What is the retirement age in Switzerland? It is 66 here in the UK at present.

65, but early retirement can be at 60, although not many can do it early (my parents were lucky ) or even at 65 ... given how low the income would be for some (including me but i will still try )and how expensive it is in Switzerland (my parents live in Spain because of that )

expensive is also seen in second hand market, anything i could buy for up to 50chf (mostly old cards, rig and other nostalgic stuff i love to collect) are in three figure price

i have a PS2 slim and a lot of games for it but i mostly emulate them on pc with PCSX2 (i kept a ext. ODD CDRW/DVDRW just for that)

 

[Greenslade]

65, but early retirement can be at 60, although not many can do it early (my parents were lucky ) or even at 65 ... given how low the income would be for some (including me but i will still try )and how expensive it is in Switzerland (my parents live in Spain because of that )

expensive is also seen in second hand market, anything i could buy for up to 50chf (mostly old cards, rig and other nostalgic stuff i love to collect) are in three figure price

i have a PS2 slim and a lot of games for it but i mostly emulate them on pc with PCSX2 (i kept a ext. ODD CDRW/DVDRW just for that)

I can see your point as I understand it is very expensive to live there. So you can,t get any bargains on eBay. Or is there a Swedish eBay site?

I am just watching this teardown of the PS2 Fat in case i have to do it if i get any problems with the one i am buying,

It seems straight forward if i just take my time with it.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I can see your point as I understand it is very expensive to live there. So you can,t get any bargains on eBay. Or is there a Swedish eBay site?

I am just watching this teardown of the PS2 Fat in case i have to do it if i get any problems with the one i am buying,

It seems straight forward if i just take my time with it.

Swiss eBay equivalent would be ricardo.ch

Btw Swiss=\=Swedish Switzerland=\=Sweden buy I get that a lot

Also one of my most memorable buy was from eBay from a seller from Sweden it was one of my Athlon in my collection

 

[Greenslade]

Someone gave me an offer on a PS2 with this problem *I COULD NOT GET IT TO LOAD BLUE DISCS.* And saw this simple fix video

. at the end of the day i don,t want to buy something with a problem. Why do they have two types of discs for PS2? I bought this one this is the last version of it 5000.I did not expect the seller to except my offer.I just hope the

Boxed PS2 Console, Original Controller, Memory Card + 5 Games​

Platform: PS2​

Region: PAL​

Hope this is ok £44 instead of £50.Condition: Good condition, Tested & Working. Includes: Box, Original PS2 Controller, Original Memory Card, Original power & AV Cables, 5 Free Games. Box and console have matching serial numbers.NB! The D-Pad on the controller is iffy. ?Hope fully the D_pad is not to iffy At least it has the box and the right box for the modal.There is no mention of what the games are on the​

details of it on eBay.Not that i am worried about that.

 

[masterdeejay]

Im testing old video cards with 3dmark01se on a chinese platform Zhaoxin KX-5640 (somewhat new chinese goverment pc 2018 but using old via/se technolgy)
Windows XP it runs well, the sound (default xp drivers) and the lan (downloaded realtek) works but the igp is not. (drivers needed)
Voodoo3 2000 (pci-agp adapter), Leadtek 8500GT, X300Se

 

[Greenslade]

A Comparison between CRT, 1080P & 4K Televisions when using Retro Gaming Consoles it seems CRT is not the best when playing Retro Consoles.

This guys good.​

 

[Bones]

Someone gave me an offer on a PS2 with this problem *I COULD NOT GET IT TO LOAD BLUE DISCS.* And saw this simple fix video

. at the end of the day i don,t want to buy something with a problem. Why do they have two types of discs for PS2? I bought this one this is the last version of it 5000.I did not expect the seller to except my offer.I just hope the

Boxed PS2 Console, Original Controller, Memory Card + 5 Games​

Platform: PS2​

Region: PAL​

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details of it on eBay.Not that i am worried about that.​

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In the other thread I indicated these read issues are normally caused by a weak laser.
You can clean the lens and see if it improves but if not or it's just annoying, a new laser will fix it.

Need to know how?
I can help with that since I had similar issues and did mine sometime ago - Eversince it was replaced it reads ALL discs perfectly.

 

[Valantar]

A Comparison between CRT, 1080P & 4K Televisions when using Retro Gaming Consoles it seems CRT is not the best when playing Retro Consoles.

This guys good.​

Interesting! I do love the thrown-together methodology though: saying there's no difference in input lag between the CRT and the monitor when the footage quite clearly shows that there is (around 9:30) - but the TV clearly is worse. Grouping motion clarity in with input lag is also pretty odd. Also rather mixed up in how he's letting color reproduction and other model-specific features somehow be a deciding factor for whether "a CRT", "a monitor", "a 4K TV" etc. are better overall - these are all down to his specific units, their specs and calibration etc., so they're not representative whatsoever. And, of course, upscaling throws another heap of wrenches into the works of any comparison again.

 

[Greenslade]

Interesting! I do love the thrown-together methodology though: saying there's no difference in input lag between the CRT and the monitor when the footage quite clearly shows that there is (around 9:30) - but the TV clearly is worse. Grouping motion clarity in with input lag is also pretty odd. Also rather mixed up in how he's letting color reproduction and other model-specific features somehow be a deciding factor for whether "a CRT", "a monitor", "a 4K TV" etc. are better overall - these are all down to his specific units, their specs and calibration etc., so they're not representative whatsoever. And, of course, upscaling throws another heap of wrenches into the works of any comparison again.

Good points there as usual from you Valantar :)Here's another of my fav retro guys.

I rarely see any PC,s at a boot fair But then again I don,t get there early enough. or go to many of them.

What *free MCboot *should I get 8MB or 64Mb For PS2 fat.?
And why are they about the same price?
Surely it would be better to go for the bigger one?
You can,t get much on 8Mb I am confused by it all.

 

[68Olds]

Playing with the Abit AW9D-Max again. I pulled the E6600 & 2x2GB PC8500 RAM. I now have a Celeron D 352 @ 3.2Ghz & 4x1GB PC5300 RAM. My 3dMark2001 score dropped a little bit (more than half)! I'll enable Crossfire again & start overclocking the CPU to see what it will do under water.

 

[hat]

What is the retirement age in Switzerland? It is 66 here in the UK at present.
I guess if Lex works in a Government department he would retire earlier than people who don,t work in the public sector. I have just looked at the age you can retire in the USA from 62

I have got another forum post on here about PS2 , it seems to have gone quiet on there.
What I would like to know is do I need the HDD to play games off a ps2 disc.?
Or can I use it without it?
Or would I be better off buying a PS2 Slim?
All I want to do is put a game in the unit and play the game as you do on a PC. The network card is expensive at £13 for the IDE one or £16 for the SATA one plus the extras you have to pay on ALI Express.?
What I would like to know is why arn,t sellers not selling one with the expansion card on it.?I see I can get them cheaper would I be ok with IDE?

SATA/IDE Interface Network Card For PS2 Game Console Adapter SATA Socket HDD For Sony PS 2 Fat Sata Socket Hard Drive​

This is what I wanted to know playing a game that is in the PS2 drive.

The only video I came across

You could have posted yourself in the PS2 thread... likely I would have seen your questions there and answered them. Moving on...

You do not need the HDD, in most cases, to play games off the disc. Final Fantasy 10 is one exception, I believe it does need to install something to the HDD. However, you're far better off using the HDD. If you invest some time learning about Free MCBoot and utilities like Open PS2 Loader or HDLoader that allow you to do this, you could install the games directly to the HDD from the disc, or even pipe them over your home network. If you load your games from the HDD instead of the optical disc, you're going to get better performance, and you can avoid the issues of scratched discs and failing optical drives/lasers. I've seen SATA adapters, but I can't speak to their reliability... also, they have no network interface, so you're going to need some other way to get the games on the HDD if you want to load ISOs from your computer. The official Sony network adapter that actually has a network interface and uses IDE drives is probably the best option.

I am not a fan of slim models for playing PS2 games. They don't support hard drives, so you're stuck relying on your discs and the drive. This also means you miss out on the increased performance from the hard drive. You could use a USB drive, but it's even slower than the optical disc. Also, the 90k model PS2 can't run Free MCBoot at all, at least without a modchip. On anything earlier than 90k, getting Free MCBoot to run is as easy as getting a memory card with it installed (eBay is your friend) and simply putting that memory card in.

 

[RyzenMaster.sys]

Finally got some improved soldering equipment including a Pinecil v1. Still fairly basic and inexpensive equipment but a good base to build off of.

First project with it was to replace the couple of bad capacitors on this Gigabyte 754 board. Only issue was the replacement caps have a larger diameter than the ones they replaced so fitment isn't perfect.

I also replaced the 2 bad caps on the vrm card. Took a bit of scrubbing to remove the guts of the one capacitor off of the board and get it as clean as below.

Will test this board tonight.

That did the trick. Board posts.

I wasn't expecting the vrm fan to have LEDs on it. This will pair nicely with my led DDR.

 

[Greenslade]

You could have posted yourself in the PS2 thread... likely I would have seen your questions there and answered them. Moving on...

You do not need the HDD, in most cases, to play games off the disc. Final Fantasy 10 is one exception, I believe it does need to install something to the HDD. However, you're far better off using the HDD. If you invest some time learning about Free MCBoot and utilities like Open PS2 Loader or HDLoader that allow you to do this, you could instal from the disc, or even pipe them over your home network. If you load your games from the HDD instead of the optical disc, you're going to get better performance, and you can avoid the issues of scratched discs and failing optical drives/lasers. I've seen SATA adapters, but I can't speak to their reliability... also, they have no network interface, so you're going to need some other way to get the games on the HDD if you want to load ISOs from your computer. The official Sony network adapter that actually has a network interface and uses IDE drives is probably the best option.

I am not a fan of slim models for playing PS2 games. They don't support hard drives, so you're stuck relying on your discs and the drive. This also means you miss out on the increased performance from the hard drive. You could use a USB drive, but it's even slower than the optical disc. Also, the 90k model PS2 can't run Free MCBoot at all, at least without a modchip. On anything earlier than 90k, getting Free MCBoot to run is as easy as getting a memory card with it installed (eBay is your friend) and simply putting that memory card in.

The reason I put it on here was people had stopped posting in there.
Yes, I realize that about playing discs. should I just go for the Sony 8Mb Free MCboot?And install from the disc. Too true, I will get a SATA network adapter they no longer have the network on them they just have a label covering over where it should have been. I have an adapter for the 2.5drive and an external caddy for the 3.5. I don,t see any of the IDE adapters with the network. Thanks for your information. This is a straightforward way to do it with this video. Yes I saw that in another video about USB being so slow as it is only USB1

 

[Canned Noodles]

Finally got some improved soldering equipment including a Pinecil v1. Still fairly basic and inexpensive equipment but a good base to build off of.

First project with it was to replace the couple of bad capacitors on this Gigabyte 754 board. Only issue was the replacement caps have a larger diameter than the ones they replaced so fitment isn't perfect.
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I also replaced the 2 bad caps on the vrm card. Took a bit of scrubbing to remove the guts of the one capacitor off of the board and get it as clean as below.View attachment 262638
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Will test this board tonight.

That did the trick. Board posts.View attachment 262649View attachment 262650
I wasn't expecting the vrm fan to have LEDs on it. This will pair nicely with my led DDR.

I've seen that slot on board before, but never knew it was for add-in VRM boards. That's so cool!