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I need to get back in this soon! I would have good numbers if I didn't rebuild than have my Internet take a crap on me.
 

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Ok!! lads you have twisted my arm, I am going to throw a couple of my old Opty's at this ...will fold with the GPU's and CRUNCH with them and see how it goes..

Anyone know if there is any difference from using the folding SMP client and this, more or less the same or will it effect the GPU's folding??
A little different from smp. You use boinc for wcg, and the gpu2 client for your gpu's. Just make sure that you set priority to slightly higher (on the last tab when you run the config) when you set up the gpu client, and you will not take any points hit for f@h. I have several rigs running wcg on the cpu and f@h on the gpu.
 

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well in F@H gpu's fold alot faster it seams. thats why i asked
I can say with certainty that my lone GTX260 scores lots of BOINC points in a day with GPUGrid. A lot more than a single quad machine. The trick is whether a BOINC points made by doing the science at GPUGrid is equivalent to crunching a CPU WU at WCG. That I don't know.

As far as the number of WUs run, the GPUGrid WUs are bigger than the ones I crunch at WCG. So they take longer to crunch for a given number of WUs, but you get a heck of a lot more points for it.

I suppose that may have an answer if GPU crunching comes to WCG. I am prepared to upgrade the GPUs in all my farm machines if it proves worthwhile. Heck, I'm running old 90's vintage Virge cards in a lot of the farm machines now. We have folks that run totally headless, with no graphics card. They control the machines remotely.

What I do know is that the more hardware we can bring to the picture, on any project, the better all the projects will do, and the more good we can contribute to the world. :toast:

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ok guys. I put my AMD rig back on air for now and got it ready to crunch away. However this is all the WCG manager does. doesn't start to crunch. Any advise??


 
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Woo, as of now we are ranked 1525!:rockout: Link

@ Chicken Patty - I think I had that problem before, all I did to fix it was uninstall BOINC and re-install it, then it started working again, so I guess try that. If that doesn't work then idk.
 

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Woo, as of now we are ranked 1525!:rockout: Link

@ Chicken Patty - I think I had that problem before, all I did to fix it was uninstall BOINC and re-install it, then it started working again, so I guess try that. If that doesn't work then idk.
thanks.

I'll give that shot :toast:
 

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just installed and reinstalled. No good! :(
 

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Might also be a firewall issue? IIRC, I had to allow boinc through the firewall on a few rigs. I'm thinking that was back when I was running server 03 on the rigs. I run Vista 64 bit on everything now.

What op system?

I know for sure when you are running a remote monitoring program like BoincView, to manage a farm, port 31416 has to be opened on the target machine.

The re-install suggestion may clear it up too. Don't know. If it doesn't, poke into your firewall and see if boinc is listed as allowed.

Bob

Whoops, crossed posts with you CP...
 

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Might also be a firewall issue? IIRC, I had to allow boinc through the firewall on a few rigs. I'm thinking that was back when I was running server 03 on the rigs. I run Vista 64 bit on everything now.

What op system?

I know for sure when you are running a remote monitoring program like BoincView, to manage a farm, port 31416 has to be opened on the target machine.

The re-install suggestion may clear it up too. Don't know. If it doesn't, poke into your firewall and see if boinc is listed as allowed.

Bob

Whoops, crossed posts with you CP...
its my bench rig, no firewall, Windows security center is disabled. Any other suggestions. Re installing it didnt work neither :( dammit I wanted to have both rigs crunching.
 

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Is regular internet working? IPCONFIG look OK? Op sys? I may have some cavalry headed over the hill to help on this too....

Bob
everything works fine bro. what is OP sys?
 

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Operating system. Vista, XP and such.

While we are at it, what BOINC version are you running? If you click "advanced" view, it's under the Help>About menu selection.

We'll try our best to get you going tonight....I know how I am when I get a stuck machine. It's near 2 am your way...

Bob
 
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could you go into advanced view (lower right) and give a screen shot - might be more information.

If BOINC can't see the internet but everything else can, then something has to be wrong with BOINC - since no firewall, antivirus, anti-spyware etc is loaded.
 

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sorry guys, I shut the rig down already, imma hit the sack. I'll get you guys the screenshot tomorrow. Thanks a lot for the help however :toast:
 
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I don't think that is a good idea man. All those wasted CPU cycles are going to haunt your dreams. And then there are all of the kittens that will die. Can you live with that on your conscience?:cool: :rolleyes:
 

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hehe....The cavalry is here....via every comm system the forum has to offer....

Thx guys....:toast:

CP, If you want to pick this up tomorrow, fine. It just shows you have more sense than we probably do.....:laugh:
 

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SOAPBOX WARNING> OK, here's perfect example of why a sub-forum is needed. We tried to help out CP with a problem, and put a bunch of posts up. This particular post has to do with my post #154, and Fits post #151, etc......It's clear down in post #168.

If I stick this info in an edit on my post #154, it may be lost, due to the in-between posts on other topics. It won't be seen..... This is on the topic of the technicals of BOINC and it's point system, and how it was designed. Crunching (and folding) can be very complex, requiring different threads to keep it straight......:eek:>SOAPBOX OVER

>>Possible temporary solution? Make threads in whatever the best section is for TPU WCG to live in, and begin the title of every thread with "TPU WCG", no matter what the rest of the title says. That way, you could search the forum for TPU WCG and get all the threads you need. That might make this doable in the present circumstances? <<

OK, now to my post. There is a VERY good article that goes really deep in BOINC point calculation. I could not find that particular paper since our home is busted. We had a thread on it.... I will come back and link it when I go home. For now, I looked at BOINC's home page and found this technical paper here. It's about how BOINC was formulated. It has very good background for those with a technical bent. (I'm a Staff Electrical Engineer on the day job, so I get stuck reading this kind of stuff...can't help it....:eek:)

What we do can be treated very simply on the surface for those who do not want to dig too deep. On the other hand, it can get VERY technically complex if one desires to know the nuances of it. The key for the folks you encounter while you build your team is to be able to point them the right places when the questions come. Some questions are easy, some are not. :End of my actual post info

In the case of CP's problem tonight, there is a simple solution that I KNOW I came across before, I just could not pull it up right away. (And yes, it was frustrating to me. I had to call up the cavalry to come and help...:toast:) That's what the team is for, with the right thread structure. T, and others in the cav, have seen this before too. It just shows that anyone can be stumped for an answer, anytime. What good thread management allows is to cut through the BS and find the magic search words.

Don't get me wrong, we XS WCG team refugees are probably world famous at taking a thread off topic...;) I have not done that here, since we are your guests. :up: (A "thumbs up" in XS emoticonage..)

Allright, enough. I seem to be famous for writing "books" on XS too.....:banghead::D Sorry!

Regards,
Bob
 
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Yee-Hahh! 1,374th place with the morning update!! Here.

Go team, go!

Also, sorry for the "book" above..... Sometimes I get too serious about this stuff...:p It is interesting stuff though.

Keep on crunching!!

Bob
 

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Holy crap Bob!!! LMAO!! @ your book!

Way to go guys!! Moving up really quick now. I can only stay on here for maybe another week. I cant loose my 49th spot @ XS. I have a few guys breathing down my neck....:(

Even thought the points dont matter, its much more fun to talk shit. :)
 

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Holy crap Bob!!! LMAO!! @ your book!

Way to go guys!! Moving up really quick now. I can only stay on here for maybe another week. I cant loose my 49th spot @ XS. I have a few guys breathing down my neck....:(

Even thought the points dont matter, its much more fun to talk shit. :)
Hehe, Fallwind will likely run me over, but it's all good. :up: I was about to run over SS, so I pulled off the road for a bit.

Bob

<------WOW, two stars now!!:rockout:

@ Hicks below.....To avoid spamming more, I'll put my reply here......:laugh: Yup, that's me!
 
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I hit 2 stars a little while ago :D

I noticed there is no :sofa: around here :eek: