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I changed it to zero around after the time I first posted but didn't see any difference with times or load or anything LOL.

Its just bugging me really bad cause my main goal was to get a CPU that would push 3-4K or more cause I was raking in around 2.8K PPD with the Phenom II quad...
 

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How do I do anything in Linux? In Ubuntu when I try to open CPU-G it simply opens it in some text editor. Running Lubuntu, when I try to run the BOINC installer, it does the same thing. When I try to run CPU-G in Lubuntu, I get a window saying something about it could be a script. If I try to run as script, nothing happens. If I simply open the file, I get the damn text editor again.
 
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Where did You get it and how did You install it?
And if You're opening a file in Ubuntu which is a script file [or possible source code file], by default it asks if You want to run it or edit. It's quite accurate in detecting those, so are You SURE You've got the right thing?

Also, I tried it out and this CPU-G and is quite bad. The information it gives is rather lacking and it shows/tells nothing other [better] programs wouldn't. One more thing: this CPU-G DOESN'T show the actual clock speed of the CPU. It only shows the "expected"/"clockspeed label" for the power mode the CPU is put by the kernel at the time. Not sure about Intels, but it tends to report a completely wrong clocks on AMD systems with FSB/HT-Link overclock.
Not to mention it doesn't report the core voltage...
 
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This sucks.... I only posted 1,168 points yesterday and I could probably do better on a Core2duo...... I may turn WCG off for now cause its REALLY under performing badly... I have done Gflops test and I am getting in the 50's which is what I was getting on my previous I7-920 and I let CPUz log all night and it never throttled at all. Something is either wrong with WCG or there is a gremlin some where...
 
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This sucks.... I only posted 1,168 points yesterday and I could probably do better on a Core2duo...... I may turn WCG off for now cause its REALLY under performing badly... I have done Gflops test and I am getting in the 50's which is what I was getting on my previous I7-920 and I let CPUz log all night and it never throttled at all. Something is either wrong with WCG or there is a gremlin some where...

How many days has your rig been running, and how many results has it returned?
 
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I changed it to zero around after the time I first posted but didn't see any difference with times or load or anything LOL.

Its just bugging me really bad cause my main goal was to get a CPU that would push 3-4K or more cause I was raking in around 2.8K PPD with the Phenom II quad...

I may be complete bonkers here but, what does this page look like on your Manager?

 

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Ok the time remaining on some of these WU's are not going down but 1 second per ever 2 minutes??? That cannot be right..
 
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Also, I switch apps every 600 mins.

Once an hour? Won't that mess with it a bit?

 

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Where did You get it and how did You install it?
And if You're opening a file in Ubuntu which is a script file [or possible source code file], by default it asks if You want to run it or edit. It's quite accurate in detecting those, so are You SURE You've got the right thing?

Also, I tried it out and this CPU-G and is quite bad. The information it gives is rather lacking and it shows/tells nothing other [better] programs wouldn't. One more thing: this CPU-G DOESN'T show the actual clock speed of the CPU. It only shows the "expected"/"clockspeed label" for the power mode the CPU is put by the kernel at the time. Not sure about Intels, but it tends to report a completely wrong clocks on AMD systems with FSB/HT-Link overclock.
Not to mention it doesn't report the core voltage...

Got BOINC from here:

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

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Was talking about CPU-G... :ohwell:
 

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Got CPU-G from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cpug/

Anyways I'm more concerned about BOINC. I read up a little on .sh files like the one from the BOINC site, so I fired up the terminal and used 'sh boinc.sh' (renamed it to make things a little easier). The terminal spit out something about using run_manager to run BOINC... so I do that and it opens the damn thing in the text editor! So, I tried clicking on boincmgr, and a window pops up about how boincmgr appears to be an executable. If I click on the execute button... nothing happens.
 
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Suggestion: just use the distro-provided boinc. Get it by running this:
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sudo apt-get install boinc

This will: Install Boinc client, Boinc manager, will make Boinc auto-start when the OS boots, create shortcuts / launchers in You menu w/e it's called AND will install all the dependencies which You probably lack right now.
For a Linux newbie, this is the best way to install and run Boinc. The one from Berkley site requires quite a lot of knowledge to run and use properly.

And about CPU-G, Sourforge site You say? You definitely DON'T want to use the one found there, believe me...
 
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Hat I always just use the version of Boinc that is offered in the software center. Just open the software center and search for Boinc. Basically on my Linux crunchers, I just do a base install of Ubuntu, then install Chrome and Boinc for the software center and thats it.
 
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Suggestion: just use the distro-provided boinc. Get it by running this:
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sudo apt-get install boinc

This will: Install Boinc client, Boinc manager, will make Boinc auto-start when the OS boots, create shortcuts / launchers in You menu w/e it's called AND will install all the dependencies which You probably lack right now.
For a Linux newbie, this is the best way to install and run Boinc. The one from Berkley site requires quite a lot of knowledge to run and use properly.

And about CPU-G, Sourforge site You say? You definitely DON'T want to use the one found there, believe me...

Alright, trying the noob method now. The terminal appears to be doing a ton of stuff so I guess that's a good sign. Now that that's clear (hopefully) are there any system monitoring alternatives for linux?

Hat I always just use the version of Boinc that is offered in the software center. Just open the software center and search for Boinc. Basically on my Linux crunchers, I just do a base install of Ubuntu, then install Chrome and Boinc for the software center and thats it.

I'm using Lubuntu actually, not Ubuntu. It's supposed to be lighter on resources/faster.
 
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Now that that's clear (hopefully) are there any system monitoring alternatives for linux?

to monitor system resources, there's the System Monitor app (kinda like Windows' task manager). Should be already installed by default and You can add a system monitor app to any of Your panels to be able to see things all time without starting it (clicking on the panel app should also open the "full" system monitor.)
To monitor temps, voltages and fan RPMs, there's a also a panel app. Or alternatively You can see all that info by running the sensors command in the terminal. Though, to see some of the temps and most voltages & RPMs, You'd need to do some additional configuring. Someone posted that in one of the crunching threads not long ago, gonna find a link to that post a bit later.
For general system information - hardinfo is my favorite. It shows all the relevant information about the OS, about all the hardware, about network interfaces & connections AND has some built-in benchmarks (by fetching some data from the internet, You can see how Your CPU fares against others who ran those ;) ).
For the clock speed - hardinfo shows that, too. And yet again, there's a panel app to show the clockspeed of CPU.
Although, the clockspeed any of those would report is not entirely accurate. It's that "expected"/"power state label" clock I was talking about earlier. To get the real and very accurate CPU clock is a non-trivial task, I'm afraid. A bit too complicated to include in this here post. But that "normally" reported clockspeed is all You need UNLESS You are changing the FSB / HT clocks.
You can install hardinfo in the software center or use this command:
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sudo apt-get install hardinfo

Those panel apps are highly customizable, too. To show an example, this is what I've got:


note the upper panel - it has a CPU load / memory usage / network IO / disk IO graph, network IO indicator, CPU clock indicators (one for each core) and a temperature / voltage indicator.
Though, my setup is kinda lame :ohwell:

P.S. It's a bit hard to write a post like this AND prepare dinner at the same time :laugh:
P.P.S. I love it how in this forum I can post any kind of image without considering its size thanks to the auto-resize feature. YAY! :rockout:
 
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We should collect all this info on boinc on Linux into its own thread or something. So if one wants to reference it, they don't have to search through this thread for it.
 
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We should collect all this info on boinc on Linux into its own thread or something. So if one wants to reference it, they don't have to search through this thread for it.

That will probably be a good I deal. :toast:
 
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I am going to try to do that tomorrow; after a good sleep. :toast:
 

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I support the idea of a 'BOINC-on-Linux' thread as well. :toast:
 
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I've seen some "BOINC Live Linux CDs" out there. No hard drive needed, just boot to CD. Has a lightweight GUI and BOINC preinstalled. Just boot, add your project and you're ready to go. Only issue is that a power failure means you lose any completed WUs.

To keep it all non-volatile, a minimal Debian install should be possible on a 1GB flash drive. My work lappy with a bunch of WUs claims to take ~350MB.

Edit: Boom goes the dynomite.

Features & Facts:
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 • Small memory usage : The OS requires about 64 MB plus the memory for the BOINC client and BOINC science
   application. The graphical GNOME desktop requires about 128 MB more. In general the memory depends strongly
    on the project(s) you would like to crunch...
    Recommended minimum 128 MB for diskless, HDD and USB Stick based systems and 256 MB for disksless servers.
    Strongly recommended >256 MB for text console only, >512 MB with Desktop, and additional 128 MB more for a
    diskless server system
 
 • Small disk usage : The distribution fits on a 1 GB USB stick, but 2 GB would be good for multi BOINC project
   crunching. The HDD installation requires about 2.5 GB, and the diskless server requires 1.5..1.7 GB per architecture
    plus 1.5...1.7  GB for each diskless client you would add.
 
 • Easy installation : The OS could be easily installed by several included tools on a USB stick, hard disk, and
    setup as server for diskless clients.
 
 • Server for Diskless clients : The server and diskless clients could easily installed with several included tools. Only
    the main configuration parameters must be specified, the diskless server and clients installs automatically.
 
 • Additional proxy server : Preconfigured proxy server, which allows to separate the BOINC USB, diskless and
    HDD systems in an isolated network, and communicate through the proxy server with the science project
    servers
 
 • Ubuntu based : As Dotsch/UX is based on Ubuntu, you can also install additional Ubuntu packages or update to
    your USB/HDD/Diskless systems. Also the Ubuntu documentation, WIKIs and forums are adaptive due the technical
    adjacency of Dotsch/UX and Ubuntu.
 
 • BOINC Client : The BOINC client comes pre installed and would be started as daemon and would be monitored
   and kept alive from this daemon. Dotsch/UX 1.0 includes the BOINC client 6.2.15. Dotsch/UX 1.1 includes the
   BOINC client 6.4.5 for CUDA support and Dotsch/UX 1.2 includes version 6.10.17.
 
 • Graphical Desktop and text console : If you like, you can choose between the text console (for lower memory
    requirements) or the graphical GNOME Desktop.
 
 • SSH : ssh login per default preconfigured.
 
 • 32+64 bit distribution : A distribution of 32 bit (386) and 64 bit (x64) is available. Since Dotsch/UX 1.1 it‘s possible
   to add mixed 32 and 64 bit diskless clients on the same diskless server.
 
 • CUDA : Since Dotsch/UX 1.2, the NVIDIA CUDA drivers are included and preconfigured by default. A CUDA installer
    is also included to reinstall CUDA, if it would been required. A CUDA installation state tools is included, too.
  
• Integrated Backup : A Client/Server Backup solution to backup all Dotsch/UX systems over a network is included
  since release 1.2. Also Backups to a local destination is also possible.
 
•  Performance Monitoring : The HPC/HA Cluster Grid Client/Server performance monitoring tool Ganglia was
   introduced in 1.2.
 
 • Live CD persistent home directory : A USB stick or disk can be configured in the Live CD as persistent home
   directory. All data in the home directory would been stored on the USB stick
 
 • Reduced energy : A hard disk drive requires about 5 to 10 W energy. Calculated for a permanent running system
   (365 days) and 0,20 Euro/KW per hour, each removed HDD saves about 44 KWh..88 KWh per year = 8...17 Euro per
   year.  
   A USB stick uses about 0,1..0,9 Watt = 0,8...7  KWh per year => 0,2...1,75 Euro costs per year.
   For a diskless installation it depends on the setup. Breakthrough is reached, when more diskless clients are installed,  
   than hard disks in the diskless server are used.
 

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We should collect all this info on boinc on Linux into its own thread or something. So if one wants to reference it, they don't have to search through this thread for it.

Sounds like a good idea and worthy of a sticky when started :toast:
 
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I think it is definitely a good idea. I am trying to read this stuff, but don't have the time to actually do any of it right now. When I do, I wont remember it is on pages 481-483.

Like right now I have Ubuntu on my phenom rig. I plan on removing the hdd, and installing Linux onto my new usb 3.0 drive. I will probably reference this information then.
 
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