TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

Arjai · Oct 1, 2013

brandonwh64 said:
Thanks Tski I will check my version cause I believe I maybe running the beta build and I will switch to the most current stable.

This, is probably the one scenario I hadn't thought of. I tend to skip the BETA, of most everything.

I prefer to have things, mostly, run smoothly. I dink around, now and again, but, if it don't work when I am done dinking around, I make sure that it gets back to the working condition. What?

I'm not sure that means what I meant it to say. V1.1:

I allot a certain time frame for dinking around. Within that allotment, I set aside time to fix what I may have bunched up. Therefore, I usually have a working computer, sometimes better than before the dinking around!

There, that is better, no?

Arjai · Oct 1, 2013

I've been thinking/ dreaming, lately. About a lot of things. When things change in my life, I often daydream about how I would like things to be or, about how these changes will affect things.

Anyways, my thoughts are these. With my little i5 and two additions, namely two i7's, I could settle in for a regular slice of pie.

Things change, always do, so by the time this scenario can be played out it will, more than likely, have to be amended.

But, judging by the different systems crunching here, I think two i7's @ about 3-3.5 GHz are worth close to 5 grand each per day. With the little i5 doing what it does, I would break the top 10 at least once a week!

:cool:

Norton · Oct 1, 2013

GreiverBlade said:
im hunting on a Rampage II Gene +i7-920/6gb ram/650w corsair psu and the heatsing seems to be a Prolimatech Megahalems a little less than 85$ atm 2days and 10hrs left

That's a nice combo and a great price if you can get it for that! :toast:

Arjai · Oct 1, 2013

GreiverBlade said:
im hunting on a Rampage II Gene +i7-920/6gb ram/650w corsair psu and the heatsing seems to be a Prolimatech Megahalems a little less than 85$ atm 2days and 10hrs left

Good luck! I would have put a reserve price on that set up. If you can land that for under 200, it will still be an AWESOME, deal. Under 300, for that matter. Less than the CPU, currently $359 on Amazon!

GreiverBlade · Oct 1, 2013

i got a Rampage III Extreme +12gb ram + a spare P6T SE + a i7-920 *what i am using atm as a "mainrig"

for 100$ i hope to get that mATX for crunching but i dont expect to be the last bidder ... people tend to get ballistic when it come to intel XD

Radical_Edward · Oct 1, 2013

Just installed Bonic on my new i7 workstation. Will crunch 12 hours a day from now on.

Jstn7477 · Oct 2, 2013

I discovered my desktop's SSD had run out of space and it wasn't allowing me to download/run any more WUs. I have freed up about 5GB and hopefully can free up more space soon.

t_ski · Oct 2, 2013

Arjai said:
I've been thinking/ dreaming, lately. About a lot of things. When things change in my life, I often daydream about how I would like things to be or, about how these changes will affect things.

Anyways, my thoughts are these. With my little i5 and two additions, namely two i7's, I could settle in for a regular slice of pie.

Things change, always do, so by the time this scenario can be played out it will, more than likely, have to be amended.

But, judging by the different systems crunching here, I think two i7's @ about 3-3.5 GHz are worth close to 5 grand each per day. With the little i5 doing what it does, I would break the top 10 at least once a week!

Yep, I had four i7 3770K's averaging at ~5K a day

Nordic · Oct 2, 2013

So I reinstalled windows on my 2500k machine. In downloaded WU's but they immediately said computation error.

Norton · Oct 2, 2013

james888 said:
So I reinstalled windows on my 2500k machine. In downloaded WU's but they immediately said computation error.

Time and Date correct on the rig?

manofthem · Oct 2, 2013

Jstn7477 said:
I discovered my desktop's SSD had run out of space and it wasn't allowing me to download/run any more WUs. I have freed up about 5GB and hopefully can free up more space soon.

desktop ssd too small? sounds like upgrade time

Jstn7477 · Oct 2, 2013

manofthem said:
desktop ssd too small? sounds like upgrade time

It's a 240GB lol. The 500GB models are still a bit pricey for me, unfortunately. All I need to do is delete the Steam games I have installed on the SSD, and reinstall them on the full 2TB HDD. These few games at the time weren't capable of being installed on a separate drive from the Steam program, but now they have support for that.

I might pick up a cheap 3TB off the forums, saw one for $90 today.

xvi · Oct 2, 2013

I haven't had a chance to back up my linux install on my SSD and have Win8 installed on an old, slow 160GB drive. Steam takes up almost all of the space. I have a feeling that's what's hurting my PPD on that machine. I lowered my queue length hoping that would help free up space (it seems to have).

Arjai · Oct 2, 2013

When I woke up this morning, I checked my BOINC manager. Since I don't have internet in my bedroom, I can see the jobs that are finished. Well, to my surprise 4 of the CEP2's were done, with run times around 6 hours.

From what I just saw, on WCG, is that they were valid, about 50-60 points per. Not sure how I feel about that. 10 points, or less, per hour?

Oh well, it is what it is. Just wondering if anyone else has seen this with any of their WU's from CEP2?

Peter1986C · Oct 2, 2013

Happens to me too sometimes.

Nordic · Oct 2, 2013

Norton said:
Time and Date correct on the rig?

It was off by 1 minute. Appears the damage is done. WCG isn't downloading anything.

Black.Raven · Oct 2, 2013

Just 2 questions.

1. how do i get the wcg cruncher on my sig? :eek:

2. would it actually help if you installed boinc on a ram drive?. I think I know the answer to that but the access times would be faster.

Nordic · Oct 2, 2013

@Raven
UserCP --> Edit options --> near the bottom

Peter1986C · Oct 2, 2013

Did you reset the project?

Nordic · Oct 2, 2013

Chevalr1c said:
Did you reset the project?

We have winner. WU's downloading. Still say computation error.

Peter1986C · Oct 2, 2013

Check BIOS for any wrong setting, if you recently updated drivers go back to the previous one, check whether thermal paste is starting to dry out.

Norton · Oct 2, 2013

james888 said:
We have winner. WU's downloading. Still say computation error.

Check the event log when the wu's error out- it may give some info that can be used to fix the issue....

Arjai · Oct 3, 2013

Black.Raven said:
2. would it actually help if you installed boinc on a ram drive?. I think I know the answer to that but the access times would be faster.

This my experience with a ram drive and BOINC...

[Ion] · Oct 3, 2013

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pumped up and ready to go for the competition! I brought my C2D-M 2.8GHz system back online on Monday, and I'll be setting up even the old Atom when I have a few minutes. It's not great, but it's still worth ~350 PPD :toast:

xvi · Oct 3, 2013

[Ion] said:
I don't know about you guys, but I'm pumped up and ready to go for the competition! I brought my C2D-M 2.8GHz system back online on Monday, and I'll be setting up even the old Atom when I have a few minutes. It's not great, but it's still worth ~350 PPD

Ah, yes. An astounding ~0.4375% percent extra PPD. :rolleyes:

(Extra science is extra science though. Always happy to have one more machine.)

System Name	Bay2- Lowerbay/ HP 3770/T3500-2+T3500-3+T3500-4/ Opti-Con/Orange/White/Grey
Processor	i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard	HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
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Memory	2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
Video Card(s)	HD2000's/ HD 2000/ 1 MSI GT710,2x MSI R7 240's/ HD4000/ Red Dragon 580/Sapphire 580/Sapphire 580
Storage	?HDD's/ 500 GB-er's/ 500 GB/2.5 Samsung 500GB HDD+WD Black 1TB/ WD Black 500GB M.2/Corsair MP600 M.2
Display(s)	1920x1080/ ViewSonic VX24568 between the rest/1080p TV-Grey
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Audio Device(s)	Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
Power Supply	19.5 volt bricks/ Dell PSU/ 525W sumptin/ same/Seasonic 750 80+Gold/EVGA 500 80+/Antec 650 80+Gold
Mouse	cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard	Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software	Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores	World Community Grid is my benchmark!!

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Processor	i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard	HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
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Memory	2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
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Case	HP 8200 UltraSlim's/ HP 8200 mid tower/Dell T3500's/ Dell 390/SilverStone Kublai KL06/NZXT H510 W x2
Audio Device(s)	Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
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Mouse	cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard	Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software	Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores	World Community Grid is my benchmark!!

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Power Supply	EVGA 750 G3- SeaSonic DGC 750- EVGA P2 850 and etc...
Mouse	G300s
Keyboard	Corsair K65
VR HMD	N/A
Software	Windows 10 Pro or Ubuntu
Benchmark Scores	Why sit on the Bench when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!

System Name	Bay2- Lowerbay/ HP 3770/T3500-2+T3500-3+T3500-4/ Opti-Con/Orange/White/Grey
Processor	i3 2120's/ i7 3770/ x5670's/ i5 2400/Ryzen 2700/Ryzen 2700/R7 3700x
Motherboard	HP UltraSlim's/ HP mid size/ Dell T3500 workstation's/ Dell 390/B450 AorusM/B450 AorusM/B550 AorusM
Cooling	All stock coolers/Grey has an H-60
Memory	2GB/ 4GB/ 12 GB 3 chan/ 4GB sammy/T-Force 16GB 3200/XPG 16GB 3000/Ballistic 3600 16GB
Video Card(s)	HD2000's/ HD 2000/ 1 MSI GT710,2x MSI R7 240's/ HD4000/ Red Dragon 580/Sapphire 580/Sapphire 580
Storage	?HDD's/ 500 GB-er's/ 500 GB/2.5 Samsung 500GB HDD+WD Black 1TB/ WD Black 500GB M.2/Corsair MP600 M.2
Display(s)	1920x1080/ ViewSonic VX24568 between the rest/1080p TV-Grey
Case	HP 8200 UltraSlim's/ HP 8200 mid tower/Dell T3500's/ Dell 390/SilverStone Kublai KL06/NZXT H510 W x2
Audio Device(s)	Sonic Master/ onboard's/ Beeper's!
Power Supply	19.5 volt bricks/ Dell PSU/ 525W sumptin/ same/Seasonic 750 80+Gold/EVGA 500 80+/Antec 650 80+Gold
Mouse	cheap GigaWire930, CMStorm Havoc + Logitech M510 wireless/iGear usb x2/MX 900 wireless kit 4 Grey
Keyboard	Dynex, 2 no name, SYX and a Logitech. All full sized and USB. MX900 kit for Grey
Software	Mint 18 Sylvia/ Opti-Con Mint KDE/ T3500's on Kubuntu/HP 3770 is Win 10/Win 10 Pro/Win 10 Pro/Win10
Benchmark Scores	World Community Grid is my benchmark!!

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Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling	Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory	64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5
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Case	Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon
Audio Device(s)	Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Edifier STAX Spirit S3 & SamsungxAKG beans
Power Supply	Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse	Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard	Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD	Medion Erazer
Software	Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores	bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o

TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

Arjai

Arjai

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

Arjai

GreiverBlade

Radical_Edward

Jstn7477

t_ski

Former Staff

Nordic

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

manofthem

WCG-TPU Team All-Star!

Jstn7477

xvi

Arjai

Peter1986C

Nordic

Black.Raven

Nordic

Peter1986C

Nordic

Peter1986C

Norton

Moderator - Returning from the Darkness

Arjai

[Ion]

WCG Team Assistant

xvi

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Mouse	Logitech G900
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