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HammerON · Dec 2, 2013

This is what I have been crunching my 4770K at:

What changes did you make in the BIOS? Are you using Auto for Vcore?
Have you checked out this thread? Lots of good info

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/intel-haswell-overclocking-clubhouse.185344/

manofthem · Dec 2, 2013

Vcore is set manually to 1.236 iirc, which it stays at pretty well. I haven't changed too many other settings yet but I'll take a gander through that thread again, thanks.

Perhaps I should throw another hypothesis out there: I accidentally messed up some socket pins when installing everything, but after a long hour or so with light, magnifying glass, and small tools, they all straightened back out and realigned. A buddy who helped me with the pins asked me today if I thought it contributed to the high temps, and even though I didn't think so, is there any way that could boost temps?

Nordic · Dec 2, 2013

I would rather have your chip manofthem. Mine is about 55c at 4.3ghz 1.35v. But that is max overclock stable for crunching. I can't even boot 4.5.

Arjai · Dec 2, 2013

Wondering...These WU's were due at 8 this morning. They are now running "High Priority", will the still count in the morning, when I have WiFi again? Or, should I dump them and crunch something that will actually count?

manofthem · Dec 2, 2013

james888 said:
I would rather have your chip manofthem. Mine is about 55c at 4.3ghz 1.35v. But that is max overclock stable for crunching. I can't even boot 4.5.

These chips are weird to me, unless I'm doing something wrong. I keep seeing chips like yours running cool at high voltage. I mean, yours is at 1.35v and only 55*C? That seems terrific to me

And i'm not sure if my chip is stable yet, as it did crash before for me. It's still going now so I'm not sure what the deal is with this. I may attempt to remount the cooler, check to make sure that it's mounted correctly and evenly.

BOINC has been running solid all afternoon so it's a good sign for now. I need to check the WCG results though to make sure I'm not getting a bunch of errors

Arjai · Dec 2, 2013

Arjai said:
Wondering...These WU's were due at 8 this morning. They are now running "High Priority", will the still count in the morning, when I have WiFi again? Or, should I dump them and crunch something that will actually count?

ANYBODY?

Norton · Dec 2, 2013

Arjai said:
Wondering...These WU's were due at 8 this morning. They are now running "High Priority", will the still count in the morning, when I have WiFi again? Or, should I dump them and crunch something that will actually count?

They should automatically abort- However, you can manually abort if you think you will lose a bunch of time on them.... I would likely do that if it were my rig.

Adjust your cache for a smaller # of wu's if this happens frequently

Arjai · Dec 2, 2013

Norton said:
They should automatically abort- However, you can manually abort if you think you will lose a bunch of time on them.... I would likely do that if it were my rig.

Adjust your cache for a smaller # of wu's if this happens frequently

Doesn't Happen. First time I have had this question. Since I now can't crunch while sleeping...deadlines caught up to me!

Plus, this weekend, I didn't have my computer with me, at all. So, no crunching at all. Hence my current dilemma. Oh well, hopefully I won't have this problem again. Thanks, N

t_ski · Dec 2, 2013

Yeah, there are a ton of MCM that have shown up with a brief deadline for me, too.

Nordic · Dec 2, 2013

So my 5800k is being weird. When I first set it up it was pulling 4k ppd months ago. During the challenge is was hitting about 2500ppd. Just today it was less than 2k. Its performance is obviously decreasing, but lately at a faster rate. What is going on? Any ideas.

This rig is remote so I can't try much.

[Ion] · Dec 2, 2013

james888 said:
So my 5800k is being weird. When I first set it up it was pulling 4k ppd months ago. During the challenge is was hitting about 2500ppd. Just today it was less than 2k. Its performance is obviously decreasing, but lately at a faster rate. What is going on? Any ideas.

This rig is remote so I can't try much.

Well, partially, I'd expect things to vary depending on what projects you run. FAAH gives considerably better PPD from my experience than either CEP2 or MCM. Can you check the Device Statistics page and make sure that it's still doing 4 days of runtime/day (or at least close?)

TRWOV · Dec 3, 2013

I'll clear the WUs on the 8350 and reinstall linux, this time on a desktop hard drive. Maybe I'm suffering some kind of trashing.

The 8350 part timer is up and running, hopefully it'll hold my ppd on its own while I solve this.

Nordic · Dec 3, 2013

[Ion] said:
Well, partially, I'd expect things to vary depending on what projects you run. FAAH gives considerably better PPD from my experience than either CEP2 or MCM. Can you check the Device Statistics page and make sure that it's still doing 4 days of runtime/day (or at least close?)

I forgot I put MCM back on which could explain the most recent drop. Still though it was at 4kppd per day when I first installed. It is reporting work every day so it seems.

TRWOV · Dec 3, 2013

james888 said:
So my 5800k is being weird. When I first set it up it was pulling 4k ppd months ago. During the challenge is was hitting about 2500ppd. Just today it was less than 2k. Its performance is obviously decreasing, but lately at a faster rate. What is going on? Any ideas.

This rig is remote so I can't try much.

My 8350 went from 7.5K to 2.5K in the course of a single week. As stated I'm gonna let the WUs run out and install linux on a desktop hard drive. I've been using laptop drives for the lower power draw but maybe MCM is too much for them.

I had similar issues during the CEP2 challenge.

Nordic · Dec 3, 2013

TRWOV said:
My 8350 went from 7.5K to 2.5K in the course of a single week. As stated I'm gonna let the WUs run out and install linux on a desktop hard drive. I've been using laptop drives for the lower power draw but maybe MCM is too much for them.

I had similar issues during the CEP2 challenge.

I refuse to use cep2. But it was doing 2500ppd during the challenge with all ffa. I also have another remote rig that is an i3 530 that only pulls about 200 ppd. It is also remote and it will be months if not years before I get to mess with it again.

brandonwh64 · Dec 4, 2013

I got 7K the other day and yesterday I got 3.6K so yea the points are varying

[Ion] · Dec 4, 2013

Vinska, is everything alright in Kaunas? I notice your PPD is down considerably

TRWOV · Dec 4, 2013

Apparently 2/3 of the University's PCs were turned off.

librin.so.1 · Dec 4, 2013

[Ion] said:
Vinska, is everything alright in Kaunas? I notice your PPD is down considerably

Yeah, during the weekend, ~ 2/3 of the machines got turned off by someone.
Also, some machines seem to be behaving abnormally. Going to pay a visit to my university this evening once more and am going to check them all out.
The fact that I am redoing by local network infrastructure is probably also adding to the drop.

EDIT: Also, MCM... :shadedshu:

[Ion] · Dec 4, 2013

Vinska said:
Yeah, during the weekend, ~ 2/3 of the machines got turned off by someone.
Also, some machines seem to be behaving abnormally. Going to pay a visit to my university this evening once more and am going to check them all out.
The fact that I am redoing by local network infrastructure is probably also adding to the drop.

EDIT: Also, MCM...

Will you be able to turn them back on? Or are they gone for good?

And yes, MCM is giving much, much lower output. I suppose all in the name of Science, but particularly on the i7 Linux systems the drop is quite considerable :ohwell:

librin.so.1 · Dec 4, 2013

[Ion] said:
Will you be able to turn them back on? Or are they gone for good?

No - they were just powered off during the weekend and neither me nor my dad had time to check on them during that time. So those machine only got turned back on again on monday

mstenholm · Dec 4, 2013

Vinska said:
No - they were just powered off during the weekend and neither me nor my dad had time to check on them during that time. So those machine only got turned back on again on monday

I noticed that you are back up in the points. I guess that you have to live with the fact that they have some rules about PCs being on during weekends

Arjai · Dec 4, 2013

Well, to no avail, I tried Folding on this laptop. I feel like it was worth the effort, since I learned a few things. But, since Folding and Crunching would do nothing more than severely drop my crunching, I have decided to proceed with Crunching and Fold sometime in the future when I have a more capable system.

A big shout out to the Folding team for their help and advice.

:lovetpu:

I'm back up and running!

Norton · Dec 5, 2013

OK something's definitely up with the stars on our cruncher badges.... I'm pulling at least 2x what it took for 5 stars and I'm only showing 3! :cry:

manofthem · Dec 5, 2013

Norton said:
OK something's definitely up with the stars on our cruncher badges.... I'm pulling at least 2x what it took for 5 stars and I'm only showing 3!

Yeah, it's weird, been like that since we got our badges back after the forum change. I feel so lousy with 1 star, at least give me my 2 :cry:

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