TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[Norton]

@Norton, when you say PPD, what does that stand for?? Blonde moment.....

Points Per Day

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Purified Protein Derivative I thought that I had deleted that smart aleck response.

120 or so threads I'm running

Do you have some trick way of hiding some, because I only see you at 108 threads.

 

[Norton]

Purified Protein Derivative

Do you have some trick way of hiding some, because I only see you at 108 threads.

My 3930k rig is idle atm ... that should bring it up to 120 threads

 

[phill]

Is there a way guys to change that ID number to something a little more, erm, useful??

 

[Aquinus]

1m WCG points- I currently get around 500k WCG ppd with the 120 or so threads I'm running

One of these days when I actually get to finishing this thing... I wish there were more hours in the day or that I could get away with sleeping less.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Okay, not funny. F@H is having problems with their stats' servers and now WCG seems to be having a problem as well.

1/15/2018 11:33:30 AM | World Community Grid | Requesting new tasks for CPU
1/15/2018 11:33:31 AM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
1/15/2018 11:33:31 AM | World Community Grid | No tasks sent
1/15/2018 11:33:31 AM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for Microbiome Immunity Project
1/15/2018 11:33:31 AM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for Help Stop TB
1/15/2018 11:33:31 AM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for Mapping Cancer Markers
1/15/2018 11:33:31 AM | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for the applications you have selected.

 

[Norton]

Okay, not funny. F@H is having problems with their stats' servers and now WCG seems to be having a problem as well.

Maintenance activities:

12 Jan 2018

Summary
We are updating the database on our servers on Monday, January 15, beginning at 20:15 UTC.

We will be upgrading our database to a new version on Monday, January 15, beginning at 20:15 UTC. We anticipate that the work will take approximately one hour.
During this time, volunteers will not be able to upload or download new work. The stats portion of the website will not be accessible during this time. No action is required by volunteers, as devices will automatically retry their connections after the maintenance work is completed.
We appreciate your patience and participation.

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewNewsArticle.do?articleId=549

 

[Arjai]

Well, despite trying to work things out, numerous times, I got an eviction notice. Hearing is next Thursday. Looks like I will be heading back to the mission, unless I can shit 2 grand, between now and then!!

This sucks!

 

[NastyHabits]

When I first started crunching for WCG I set two goals: Make it to the top 100 on the team and make it to the top 10,000 world wide. I realized goal number one some time ago, and just reached goal number 2 today.

Time for a new goal - Get into the top 1000. Wish me luck.

 

[phill]

Congrats!!

 

[mstenholm]

@Norton, when you say PPD, what does that stand for?? Blonde moment.....

Points Per Day

 

[AlienIsGOD]

got the 8350 crunching 24/7 with a few exclusive apps (the kids most played/cpu demanding games). Up to 2000 PPD average

 

[Recca29]

Relocating to new apartment so system will be down for few days.

 

[NastyHabits]

Just for the heck of it. I calculated Points Per Day per Core of my various PC's with and their CPU's.

I'll just call it PPD/Core

Ryzen 1700 @ 3.2 GHz - 633.745 PPD/Core
i7 4790S @3.7 GHz - 376.955 PPD/Core
i3 4130T @2.9 GHz - 28.75 PPD/Core

What did this prove to me? The Chip's generation as well as clock speed matters.
The i7 and i3 are 4th Gen Haswell chips.
You'll be happy to know that the Ryzen 1700 is my dedicated crunching/folding PC and runs 24/7

 

[Norton]

Ryzen 1700 @ 3.2 GHz - 633.745 PPD/Core

I get about the same with my 1700X in Windows 10.... the 1600X gets over 2x that in Ubuntu!

 

[NastyHabits]

.... the 1600X gets over 2x that in Ubuntu!

Hmmm... Looks like one of these days I need to give Ubuntu another shot.

 

[stinger608]

I get about the same with my 1700X in Windows 10.... the 1600X gets over 2x that in Ubuntu!

Wow, really? That is an amazing difference!!! I wonder if that is just due to being the Ryzen chip?

 

[blindfitter]

When you guys quote your stats are the cpu's running stock ? as it would help me understand which way forward.

I'm planning a addition crunching rig, and it appears AMD is the way to go, last venture into AMD was (DFI nF4 sli-Dr Expert) its still here on the shelf, the mention of it sets Phill drooling as he wants it for his nostalgia collection one day, Phill, one day.

Any way, for 24/7 use, which cpu? is the ideal, forget thread ripper for the time being, give us your A list.

now a mother-board, will the cheapest do? does it need overclocking? its a crunching machine .

memory, does it really make a difference ? crunching again?

Wait for replacements to range? or pick bargin EOL.

 

[phill]

I'm guessing efficiency will be king, so I'm going with stock

You and that DFI will part ways one day David!! I'm sure I have some hardware here that you would like to swap around lol

I'm guessing with something AMD 1700, 8Gb ram and a basic SSD for the OS and install Something with good power delivery I think and VRM cooling would be a good start....

 

[NastyHabits]

@blindfitter The stats I recently posted are with stock clocks. From what I've gathered from reading various posts, it looks like AMD Ryzen chips give you the best bang for the buck.

 

[Arjai]

@Norton Are you using the 370 Taichi board for BOTH your Ryzen systems? Also, which memory did you get that is working correctly? @blindfitter Is interested in what works.

 

[phill]

Guys I was wondering about the Dell R710 for CPU's as I was looking at grabbing a few pairs of hex cores, I was curious what everyone might suggest? I've seen the X5650's in a pair for about £40, and the X5680's go for anything past £130 for the pair.. For price/core or thread, I thought the X5650's might be an absolute steal.... ??
I was quite happy with the lowest spec hex cores and hopefully maybe tweaking them so they might be a little lower on the wattage (what settings I have in the bios of these server boards I'm not 100% sure but...) but what does everyone else think? I was considering a pair of X5675's for my SR2 board, maybe a little overclock on them so I'd have a few cores to play around with I'm aiming for efficency but I'm not sure that the X58 based kit is the best for that so challenge accepted

 

[Norton]

@Norton Are you using the 370 Taichi board for BOTH your Ryzen systems? Also, which memory did you get that is working correctly? @blindfitter Is interested in what works.

Ok see below

mother-board, will the cheapest do? does it need overclocking? its a crunching machine .

memory, does it really make a difference ? crunching again?

Wait for replacements to range? or pick bargin EOL.

My recommendations for a Ryzen based budget cruncher:
-cpu- 1600/1600X/1700/1700X
-mb- B350 chipset board
-ram- 8GB DDR4 2400 or 2666 (over 2666 isn't really needed to crunch imo if your budget is tight)
-os- Ubuntu or Mint (latest build)

No real need to overclock imo. If you do then make sure you have decent cooling

Note that my next build will be based on a B350 board, 8GB ram, and most likely a Ryzen 1600 (1700 for the extra threads IF I can get a decent deal on one)

 

[thebluebumblebee]

-os- Ubuntu or Mint (latest build)

I will add to stay away from the Cinnamon desktop.

 

[4x4n]

Guys I was wondering about the Dell R710 for CPU's as I was looking at grabbing a few pairs of hex cores, I was curious what everyone might suggest? I've seen the X5650's in a pair for about £40, and the X5680's go for anything past £130 for the pair.. For price/core or thread, I thought the X5650's might be an absolute steal.... ??
I was quite happy with the lowest spec hex cores and hopefully maybe tweaking them so they might be a little lower on the wattage (what settings I have in the bios of these server boards I'm not 100% sure but...) but what does everyone else think? I was considering a pair of X5675's for my SR2 board, maybe a little overclock on them so I'd have a few cores to play around with I'm aiming for efficency but I'm not sure that the X58 based kit is the best for that so challenge accepted

I ran a X5660 clocked to 4.4ghz for a while. Not the most efficient set up though, registered around 300w with a kill-a-watt meter. PPD was around 10k running linux mint.

Currently have two 2011 v3 Xeons both running linux mint. A 14 core/28 thread @ 2.5ghz, pulls 185w PPD around 22k, the other is 12 core/24 thread pulling 160w and about 18k PPD.

The Ryzen chips are pretty efficient but for just a pure cruncher don't rule out the X99 Xeons. ES chip are fairly cheap on ebay, you can pick up a decent board used now for less than $150. I run both of mine with just 8gb of ram, so not a lot of upfront cost if you go this route. Stable as can be as well, my one rig has over 100 days of uptime.