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guys i need your advice,

i can trade my asrock 870 extreme3 with a phenom II X6 1055t for a intel core i7 860 with a Asus p7p55d with 60 euro`s payment from my side...look i`m a gamer and i want to play with as many fps as i can get!!

is this a good deal or not?
 
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wich added memory performance?
1156 chips have much higher memory bandwidth, given the same speeds.

For example, with my 870 I pull 10800 MB/s @ 1333mhz, CAS9.

AM3, same memory, same speed, barely pulls 8K.

When you overclock 1156, you can get 20000 MB/s, easy, provided you use good ram. I'm barely getting 10000 MB/s @ 1866 on AM3. Take a look at the Maxxmem thread ChickenPatty has to get a good idea of how things are in that regard.

ADD to that the lower CPU power consumption when overclocked...1156 wins, no question.
 
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intels i3/i5/i7 have better ram performance vs amd's phenomIIs,, but thats not as noticable/important for gaming,,, ghz speed and cpu architecture is,,,, and i7 860 will deliver better gaming performance vs 1055t, and it can clock higher,,,, but i would look into sandy bridge,, try either selling ur setup and buying new or looking for a trade with sandy bridge,,,myself just got i5 2500k and running it at 4.8ghz,,, a very noticeable improvement in games vs my previous PhenomIIx4 940 @3.6ghz
 

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intels i3/i5/i7 have better ram performance vs amd's phenomIIs,, but thats not as noticable/important for gaming,,, ghz speed and cpu architecture is,,,, and i7 860 will deliver better gaming performance vs 1055t, and it can clock higher,,,, but i would look into sandy bridge,, try either selling ur setup and buying new or looking for a trade with sandy bridge,,,myself just got i5 2500k and running it at 4.8ghz,,, a very noticeable improvement in games vs my previous PhenomIIx4 940 @3.6ghz

but is a i7 860 as future proof as a 1055t..i mean 4 cores vs 6 or is that not important for gaming?
 

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When you find a game that uses 6 cores properly, then it might be of a concern. Maybe if you crunch, or something?


860 has HT, so it's kinda 8 cores, anyway.
 
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Just OC the 1055T and call it a day.
 

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Get the 860. You will thank yourself.
 
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can you explain why?
My Asrock board has my 1055t running at 3.78. Before you trade, O/C it and see if it suits your fancy.
 

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Get the 860. You will thank yourself.

Well is the game performance of a i7 860 so much higher then a 1055t? Keep in mind that my 1055t runs at 3,7 ghz stable.
 
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My Asrock board has my 1055t running at 3.78. Before you trade, O/C it and see if it suits your fancy.
I agree. For gaming it doesn't make any real difference at high resolution.
 

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My Asrock board has my 1055t running at 3.78. Before you trade, O/C it and see if it suits your fancy.
thats exactly the speed my 1055t reaches ;) but the question is, is the 860 still faster then?
 
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thats exactly the speed my 1055t reaches ;) but the question is, is the 860 still faster then?
Faster in what? Gaming? I doubt it unless you game at low resolution.
 

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I agree. For gaming it doesn't make any real difference at high resolution.
then i`ll think i will save the 60 euro`s for a better videocard...
 

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The 860 has more power overall, and especially once OC'd. It's now a matter of whether you have the motivation enough to get it and set it up. I don't really think it's a headache. In my opinion it should be fun to set up the new system.

In terms of raw power, yes, the 860 is a very powerful quad core just about on par with the 1366 chips in the 950 / 960 range stock. These chips completely put the 1055T and 1100T to shame. That's a fact. You won't see much of a difference visually in games, no. You will however have power to spare. It is your choice.
 
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The 860 has more power overall, and especially once OC'd. It's now a matter of whether you have the motivation enough to get it and set it up. I don't really think it's a headache. In my opinion it should be fun to set up the new system.

In terms of raw power, yes, the 860 is a very powerful quad core just about on par with the 1366 chips in the 950 / 960 range stock. These chips completely put the 1055T and 1100T to shame. That's a fact. You won't see much of a difference visually in games, no. You will however have power to spare. It is your choice.
Games that use more cores like BC2 and BF3 (Rumored) you will get better performance then a quad.
 

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Games that use more cores like BC2 and BF3 (Rumored) you will get better performance then a quad.
thats true but the i7 860 has hypertreading so its really 8 cores against 6 cores or am i wrong here?

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Games that use more cores like BC2 and BF3 (Rumored) you will get better performance then a quad.
Do you have actual performance numbers to back that up? I haven't seen any numbers on the internet that indicate the weaker AMD hexa core chip out performs the Quad i7 with Hyperthreading. The 860 is an HT chip. It essentially has 8 threads/cores in multithreaded applications and games. Sometimes even in multi threaded apps 4 stronger cores with HT beats six weaker cores.

If there are actual numbers where someone tested an identical system with same GPU and RAM and HD etc, then I would believe you.
 
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thats true but the i7 860 has hypertreading so its really 8 cores against 6 cores or am i wrong here?
Its not "real" cores not that it makes a difference in games. It will make a difference in encoding.

Is the intel an upgrade? IMO no. For you games are what matters and the intel wont make much of a difference. Its all about the GPU at higher resolutions. Use that money to upgrade the GPU.

Do you have actual performance numbers to back that up? I haven't seen any numbers on the internet that indicate the weaker AMD hexa core chip out performs the Quad i7 with Hyperthreading. The 860 is an HT chip. It essentially has 8 threads/cores in multithreaded applications and games. Sometimes even in multi threaded apps 4 stronger cores with HT beats six weaker cores.

If there are actual numbers where someone tested an identical system with same GPU and RAM and HD etc, then I would believe you.
It depends on the application. Real cores make a difference in encoding situations.
 

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I don't think it's going to make much of a difference at all with gaming. :ohwell:
 
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I don't think it's going to make much of a difference at all with gaming. :ohwell:
Exactly. Thats all I am saying. Use the money for a better GPU.