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ver 1.9. The reason I was asking is because I'm interested in buying your board but the newer version called the 870 Extreme3 R2.0. It's an AM3+ board. It sounds like it's not going to give me a higher clock than I already have so I guess I'll look around more.

where do you get 1.9 from i still have 1,60..
 
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I was just answering his question. I though the fact we had different boards was known.

H`s right , i tought he had the same mobo as me, butta :toast: time for beer you guys cheers!!
 

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Um hes only running one card.

not that hard Shogun II has a built in CPU bench that tests the stress a melee battle puts on the CPU since the cpu is handling all the animation info for thousands of soldiers

the fact the bench only uses 2 cores, but shows a Phenom II stock at 14fps vs i5 760 at 26fps and i5 2500k at 32fps overclocks take a Phenom II to 22 i5 760 to 34 i5 2500k to 40+

in Bad Company 2 and in BF3 its going to be a cpu killer do to the physics theres no more rinky dink 2 story buildings collapsing its now full blown towers that get dropped,

now if 2x 5850s / 5970 goes from 70 on and overclock Q9650 to 100 on a stock i5 2500k which would be comparable to a i7 860 you overclock the i7 you can hit 120 or so so while that may be a dual card situation near 50fps increase from a god damn CPU upgrade is nothing to sneeze at and since this is on the same game engine as BF3 essentially it kinda proves my point, i am running 2x 6970s and this phenom II barely puts out 65-76 avg in BC2, i can easily feel the difference in performance ive proven it on more then 1 occasion that the higher my frame rate is the better i do online. the lower my frame rate the worse i do,

a new gpu would be a nice upgrade for sure, but in all honestly that i7 will push a gpu and give better performance in Battlefield, no matter which way you want to look at it, and if hes already going to upgrade his gpu why not get the god damn CPU + Mobo etc, wait till BF3 comes out THEN get a new fucking gpu. That would make more sense to me because in all honesty a Phenom II cannot push high end gpus enough in Battlefield. But to each there own,

and since it seems the OP already bought the GPU all i can say is enjoy the new graphics card.
 

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not that hard Shogun II has a built in CPU bench that tests the stress a melee battle puts on the CPU since the cpu is handling all the animation info for thousands of soldiers

the fact the bench only uses 2 cores, but shows a Phenom II stock at 14fps vs i5 760 at 26fps and i5 2500k at 32fps overclocks take a Phenom II to 22 i5 760 to 34 i5 2500k to 40+

in Bad Company 2 and in BF3 its going to be a cpu killer do to the physics theres no more rinky dink 2 story buildings collapsing its now full blown towers that get dropped,

now if 2x 5850s / 5970 goes from 70 on and overclock Q9650 to 100 on a stock i5 2500k which would be comparable to a i7 860 you overclock the i7 you can hit 120 or so so while that may be a dual card situation near 50fps increase from a god damn CPU upgrade is nothing to sneeze at and since this is on the same game engine as BF3 essentially it kinda proves my point, i am running 2x 6970s and this phenom II barely puts out 65-76 avg in BC2, i can easily feel the difference in performance ive proven it on more then 1 occasion that the higher my frame rate is the better i do online. the lower my frame rate the worse i do,

a new gpu would be a nice upgrade for sure, but in all honestly that i7 will push a gpu and give better performance in Battlefield, no matter which way you want to look at it, and if hes already going to upgrade his gpu why not get the god damn CPU + Mobo etc, wait till BF3 comes out THEN get a new fucking gpu. That would make more sense to me because in all honesty a Phenom II cannot push high end gpus enough in Battlefield. But to each there own,

and since it seems the OP already bought the GPU all i can say is enjoy the new graphics card.

I DL the demo. Ill check it out now. I didnt know it had a bench. Ill post back. Also thats BS about the AMD CPUs not pushing single GPU in battlefield.
 

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Also thats BS about the AMD CPUs not pushing single GPU in battlefield.


No it's not, unfortunately for you. :laugh: I mean, OK, AMD CPUs can play, but Intel definitely adds a substantial performance boost, that even overclocked, AMD cannot match. It's not that AMD is bad...it's only bad when comared to the other options out there.

FYI, on Sandybridge, I am getting Crazy's dualcard FPS with a single, and lesser, card.

20 FPS difference in F1 2010, stock clocks, too. Any engine that uses defferred rendering gets big boosts on the Intel platform. I hope bulldozer changes this situation.
 
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I DL the demo. Ill check it out now. I didnt know it had a bench. Ill post back. Also thats BS about the AMD CPUs not pushing single GPU in battlefield.

of course its BS, i'm not even overclocked and my phenom will handle Battlefield, i'm sure it'll do battlefield 3 with a mild o/c
 

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really hmm do you really want me to go compare my results to those running an Intel system im pretty sure if i have anyone on this forum running a Intel i5 760 or better with 2 LOWER end gpus i would bet $10 they get higher frame rates and if switch to a single 6970 i can all without a doubt say the performance difference is large.

if you want mailman ill test against anyone you know with an intel i5 or i7 in both single and dual gpu. im willing to put up or shut up on the performance difference

6970x2 vs anything from the GTX 470 sli or 5870 xfire or better, and same as single card

i bet in Battlefield the performance difference will be more then noticeable.

If cadaveca had the free time id post my results next to his own since he has 2x 6950s and we can both easily run 1 card or 2 but hes busy with reviews lately.

my major point is FPS does matter in First person shooters and in Bad Company a Phenom II just dosent push hard enough

again everyone already knows Phenom II is clock for clock on par with socket 775 45nm quads namely Q9000 series, and again if an overclocked Q9000 is 30fps slower then a stock i5 2500k how much more of a difference with BF3 make when an entire skyscraper falls to the city streets.
 

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of course its BS, i'm not even overclocked and my phenom will handle Battlefield, i'm sure it'll do battlefield 3 with a mild o/c

Point is, it doesn't handle it AS WELL as Intel does.

if you want mailman ill test against anyone you know with an intel i5 or i7 in both single and dual gpu. im willing to put up or shut up on the performance difference.

I have all three CPUs, and am currently doing compares for my own benefit(I don't review CPU performance). the difference is quite surprising.

BUT...let's talk aobut perceptional differences..differences you notice..that's harder to quantify.

If cadaveca had the free time id post my results next to his own since he has 2x 6950s and we can both easily run 1 card or 2 but hes busy with reviews lately.

I'm working on one right htis moment, but I will be done in the next day or so, and will be posting compares as I get time to do them. Next review will have numbers from all three platforms(AM3/1155/1156), as well.
 

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i`d had to make a choise because i didnt had the cash for both, but i talked to the guy and in a week or 3/4 i`ve got the money for the deal...so it will be done then at least i want to see some benches live in his computerroom and check the components for any damage.
 

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well i can honestly say i can easily notice a difference at the following fps rates in BC2

at 45-50fps i get around a .85 K/D average thats with my AA settings maxed in control panel you know maximum pretty factor, at 65-70 i hit 1.0 K/D if i turn off AA, and lower a few other settings down 1 notch i can hit 85-90 where my K/D tops out at around 1.25

so in the Battlefield games over the course of its release to know ive changed from a 4870x2 to 5850x2 to 6970x2 and each time i gained more and more performance and with each change my overall gameplay improved and it didnt improve over time it quite literally jumped up like steps but at the 90fps range it dosent scale any more for me, my K/D and overall ability to play tops out at that frame rate.

another person who can easily vouch for the change in game performance from a CPU change is Triptex, who went from a heavily overclocked Q9650 to an i7 2600k or was it a 2500k i think a 2600k but his frame rate went sky high from the change and the smoothness was easily evident. I remember him bitching how shitty his 5970 was but after upgrading to the new SB chip he dosent bitch about the gpu anymore since it now has proper cpu muscle behind it.

again some games CPU dosent matter, Metro 2033 for example a core 2 duo does just as good as an i7 980x at 4.4ghz theres no difference at all. but for the Battlefield series again FPS does matter and CPU is a huge part of that performance,
 
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Point is, it doesn't handle it AS WELL as Intel does.

40fps is good enough for me

i've been leaving movies playing in the background to try to increase my 0.4 kill to death ratio into a number above 1
 

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i`d had to make a choise because i didnt had the cash for both, but i talked to the guy and in a week or 3/4 i`ve got the money for the deal...so it will be done then at least i want to see some benches live in his computerroom and check the components for any damage.

You made the right choice, IMHO. the 6950 is more than twice as powerful as teh 5770 you are currently rocking.

Adding teh platform change will icnrease the perforamcne boost.

well i can honestly say i can easily notice a difference at the following fps rates in BC2

at 45-50fps i get around a .85 K/D average thats with my AA settings maxed in control panel you know maximum pretty factor, at 65-70 i hit 1.0 K/D if i turn off AA, and lower a few other settings down 1 notch i can hit 85-90 where my K/D tops out at around 1.25

so in the Battlefield games over the course of its release to know ive changed from a 4870x2 to 5850x2 to 6970x2 and each time i gained more and more performance and with each change my overall gameplay improved and it didnt improve over time it quite literally jumped up like steps but at the 90fps range it dosent scale any more for me, my K/D and overall ability to play tops out at that frame rate.


And i now understand why things are differnt for us, in the BC2 scoring...one card plays @ about 60FPS avg, with very few dips below 60. Dualcard, on the other hand, doesn't exactly double FPS, and leads to a bit of input lag for me, beucase my CPU is much faster than yours, so doesn't affect gameplay with a singlecard, whereas your lesser CPU DOES affect gameplay for you, with a singlecard.

40fps is good enough for me

My son too. He plays on a 4870 1GB card, medium details, no AA, 1080p. but for me, I am too sensitive to that low of a framerate, and I can notice very easily when framerates drop below monitor refresh. In fact, it gives me motion sickness, and headaches, to play ANY GAME with less than 60FPS.

This problem is why I made my way into the high-end performance segment, becuase gaming is no fun, when it makes you puke.
 

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pretty much you might be spot on dave with a higher cpu the difference in input lag might be more noticeable since the CPU isnt the component holding back performance anymore, eitherway i can deal with input lag easy enough, that dosent actually affect my ability, Frame rate and smoothness of frame rate does.
 
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You made the right choice, IMHO. the 6950 is more than twice as powerful as teh 5770 you are currently rocking.

Adding teh platform change will icnrease the perforamcne boost.




And i now understand why things are differnt for us, in the BC2 scoring...one card plays @ about 60FPS avg, with very few dips below 60. Dualcard, on the other hand, doesn't exactly double FPS, and leads to a bit of input lag for me, beucase my CPU is much faster than yours, so doesn't affect gameplay with a singlecard, whereas your lesser CPU DOES affect gameplay for you, with a singlecard.


My son too. He plays on a 4870 1GB card, medium details, no AA, 1080p. but for me, I am too sensitive to that low of a framerate, and I can notice very easily when framerates drop below monitor refresh. In fact, it gives me motion sickness, and headaches, to play ANY GAME with less than 60FPS.

This problem is why I made my way into the high-end performance segment, becuase gaming is no fun, when it makes you puke.


i did the entire crysis + warhead single player at 20fps on The highest difficulty, unfortunatly i started playing multiplayer games on battlefield Bad company 2 last week and i'm not as good at playing real people
 

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i did the entire crysis + warhead single player at 20fps on The highest difficulty, unfortunatly i started playing multiplayer games on battlefield Bad company 2 last week and i'm not as good at playing real people

I played Crysis @ 1280x720, and lowered details, because of how lower framerates affect me. I wish I wasn't so sensitive...because then my gaming would cost me far less!
 
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I played Crysis @ 1280x720, and lowered details, because of how lower framerates affect me. I wish I wasn't so sensitive...because then my gaming would cost me far less!

have you tried using a slightly smaller screen?

intrestingly i'm ok with low fps on an lcd or plasma but the normal flicker of a crt gives me really bad eye strain even if its at a solid 60fps

i'm so lucky i was born into a world of flat panels
 

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have you tried using a slightly smaller screen?

Yes, i have. Doesn't matter, unfortunately. I am almost better on CRTs than on LCD's, but they do not make CRT's large enough for my own preference.
 
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Let's look at it this way:

1055T = $160

i7 860 = $300-ish

$160 + $80 = $240 (Converting 60 euros to dollars)

Good deal for a trade.
 

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Let's look at it this way:

1055T = $160

i7 860 = $300-ish

$160 + $80 = $240 (Converting 60 euros to dollars)

Good deal for a trade.

Thanks, erocker, as that was exactly my slant at the beginning. It was a good deal, not considering the GPU change.

however, you haven't considered board prices, too.
 

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Let's look at it this way:

1055T = $160

i7 860 = $300-ish

$160 + $80 = $240 (Converting 60 euros to dollars)

Good deal for a trade.

Youre right but i`m not sure in wich condition the i7 and mobo are, and i know my mobo and 1055t are ok, that was also a reason that i went for a (new) video card, the guy from the deal told me there was no waranty on cpu or mobo and mine still has waranty both cpu and mobo, so if i went for the deal and something broke down i`ll be in a world of PAIN...
 
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Youre right but i`m not sure in wich condition the i7 and mobo are, and i know my mobo and 1055t are ok, that was also a reason that i went for a (new) video card, the guy from the deal told me there was no waranty on cpu or mobo and mine still has waranty both cpu and mobo, so if i went for the deal and something broke down i`ll be in a world of PAIN...

Meh, sell your old stuff and buy new. Sounds a little sketchy.
 

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Case HAF 922 with fans everywere ;)
Audio Device(s) X-Fi titanium with logitech Z-2300
Power Supply corsair TX-650
Software win7 ultimate x64
Benchmark Scores still have to bench the damned thing ;)
Thats no option if youve spend like 260 euro`s on a 6950 power-edition two hours ago,,,,i do not have a tree growing euro bills (wich sucks) but if you have a limited budget the gpu upgrade is the best choise imo with my setup as it now is. and selling my old (well there not that old 1/2 a year)
wil not bring me that much cash to go for a sandy-solution witch is my goal eventualy..
 
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