So pointing out that you misread, misunderstood or misconstrued the fact that "visual performance" doesn't mean gaming necessarily makes us a fanboy? Had the slide been about an Intel processor, we would have said the same thing "visual performance" doesn't necessarily mean gaming regardless of whom makes the processor. I guess I'm an Intel fanboy now? Edit: on a serious note. I would agree for gaming and APU's don't mix. A dedicated card is required for any level of performance and longevity if one intends on gaming, Trinity probably won't satisfy the needs of a real gamer. But on balance "visual performance" still doesnt mean gaming necessarily. So lets wait it out.