Ubisoft's new uncrackable, intrusive, and annoying DRM cracked in under 24 hours...

[TVman]

blue ray writers are too expencive so it is not cost effective to pirate on that system!!! soo simple but yet so effective

 

[Mussels]

blue ray writers are too expencive so it is not cost effective to pirate on that system!!! soo simple but yet so effective

yes. but you CAN pirate it on HDD, just like the 360, PC, and wii (yes, even the wii lets you load ISO images from USB drives these days)

 

[zithe]

blue ray writers are too expencive so it is not cost effective to pirate on that system!!! soo simple but yet so effective

Until it becomes the standard.

 

[Fourstaff]

I wonder if it is legal to buy the game and install the cracked version if it to bypass the DRM. I think this is one of the only few win-win situations for legit users, they skip the hassle of DRM and the company gets their share of moolah.

 

[pantherx12]

I wonder if it is legal to buy the game and install the cracked version if it to bypass the DRM. I think this is one of the only few win-win situations for legit users, they skip the hassle of DRM and the company gets their share of moolah.

Depends what the agreement you agreed to says.

Often they say modification of software is prohibited.

If it doesn't say that go nuts!

I do it all the time as I hate having to look for the cd when I want to play a game.

 

[CrackerJack]

I wonder if it is legal to buy the game and install the cracked version if it to bypass the DRM. I think this is one of the only few win-win situations for legit users, they skip the hassle of DRM and the company gets their share of moolah.

Depends on where u live

Removing any DRM is illegal.. being music,games or movies. Using a crack is no different then someone giving you a copied movie or music. Either way you look at it your removing a copyright



*No one has crack AC2 yet... as far as i'm aware and it's been out for a good time now

 

[pantherx12]

Depends on where u live

Removing any DRM is illegal.. being music,games or movies. Using a crack is no different then someone giving you a copied movie or music. Either way you look at it your removing a copyright

You can't remove a copyright, copyright is a concept not a physical item or piece of software : ]

Infact certainly in this country your within you rights to MAKE a digital backup of any software/music/film you've bought *

Copyright law is flimsy at best, finding loopholes is easy as hell



* you see giving the copy to another person is the bit that is breaking the copyright law

 

[CrackerJack]

You can't remove a copyright, copyright is a concept not a physical item or piece of software : ]

Infact certainly in this country your within you rights to MAKE a digital backup of any software/music/film you've bought *

Copyright law is flimsy at best, finding loopholes is easy as hell



* you see giving the copy to another person is the bit that is breaking the copyright law

this is what happens when i stay up till 4am... yeah meant DRM not so much copyright

I just wonder how many people will buy the game next week? Since Uby just lost all there offline players!?!? But they made a very big step doing this, for good and bad. But then again, why and the hell would the do online saves. If don't have internet in the first place... how you gonna get it? lol without burning 2-4 disc

 

[pantherx12]

this is what happens when i stay up till 4am..

I know the feeling

 

[jimmyz]

How do they really justify the DRM on PCs when my local video store rents a single copy of a console game to 50+ people during the time it is current. so 1 sale = 50 people play it. Is pc piracy a 50:1 ratio? I know they still rent Grand turismo for ps2 and that game has been out how many years?

 

[dr emulator (madmax)]

Depends what the agreement you agreed to says.

Often they say modification of software is prohibited.

If it doesn't say that go nuts!

I do it all the time as I hate having to look for the cd when I want to play a game.

so do i
personaly i don't see anything wrong with it as long as you bought and paid for the game ,as i know from my experience many of my paid for games have died from the age old dead sector problem ,so now i just get a "cough" crack, and my games last one hell of a lot longer ,what's illegal about that ?

 

[HookeyStreet]

Blimey, i can remember Skid-Row back in the days of the Amiga 500

Well done

How do they really justify the DRM on PCs when my local video store rents a single copy of a console game to 50+ people during the time it is current. so 1 sale = 50 people play it. Is pc piracy a 50:1 ratio? I know they still rent Grand turismo for ps2 and that game has been out how many years?

Ive been saying this for years. Piracy isnt the main problem, rental services and 2nd hand sales are

 

[newtekie1]

How do they really justify the DRM on PCs when my local video store rents a single copy of a console game to 50+ people during the time it is current. so 1 sale = 50 people play it. Is pc piracy a 50:1 ratio? I know they still rent Grand turismo for ps2 and that game has been out how many years?

Video stores pay royalties per rental, or at least they are supposed to.

 

[Fourstaff]

Depends what the agreement you agreed to says.

Often they say modification of software is prohibited.

Well, if you didn't modify the program, but rather change how it is supposed to be run, then I take it as its legal?

 

[assaulter_99]

Well it seems that the drm is working, players are reporting that they can't proceed far into the game. They took the same path that batman AA took, letting the pirates experience the game then creating bugs in the game, crippling it forcing them to consider a buy.

 

[newtekie1]

Well it seems that the drm is working, players are reporting that they can't proceed far into the game. They took the same path that batman AA took, letting the pirates experience the game then creating bugs in the game, crippling it forcing them to consider a buy.

Just like Batman:AA, they will break that protection also.

 

[assaulter_99]

Just like Batman:AA, they will break that protection also.

Yeps I'm pretty sure of that! Just give em a week or so!

 

[Kreij]

Well, the reality is that hackers, pirates and DRM aren't going anywhere soon.
They will battle back and forth in a futile battle with the hackers making the DRM companies look like fools in short periods of time. Even if Skid-row did not completely crack the ubi-drm. they will not give up until they succeed.

On a side note. If you are good with software and want to make a foojillion dollars, come up with a new DRM scheme that can at least hold out for a month for each game it's used on.

 

[Delta6326]

Sweet this is why i love the good hackers, i would rather have them hacking a game than to hack my bank info. i think we all need to head back to mass effect 1 you buy the game you can install on many computers then you can throw away the disc because the game is on the pc.

also i have not pirated a game, but i also just don't buy games i just dream about them. but i 100% support pirates teach the game dev's to not overprice a game that your going to play for 15 hours then never play again. now i would pay $60 buck's for games if they where maid like the good old Mario's, all ways fun every time you played it.

 

[99vw]

You know, I'm probably one of the few that is actually fine with most DRM in games. I'm fine with CD checks, serial numbers, and even some of the more invasive stuff like Starforce. I'm even fine with online activation, provided it is handled properly(think Windows activation, where I can call a 800 number quickly and get the copy re-activated if need).

However, in this isntance, I think the DRM has gone too far, and am glad it was cracked so quickly.

I probably would have even accepted this DRM if it was just a matter of needing to re-authenticate every few hours of game play. But saving the game on their servers, and needing a 100% constant internet connection is way too far for even me.

I couldn't of said it better myself.

 

[assaulter_99]

i 100% support pirates teach the game dev's to not overprice a game that your going to play for 15 hours then never play again. now i would pay $60 buck's for games if they where maid like the good old Mario's, all ways fun every time you played it.

Exactly, but its a double edged sword really. As long as they are around, the devs will have the silly "we have been pirated" argument. That's what really hurting us. Now I ain't saying that game quality hasn't dipped lately, there's a lot of bullsh*t around, 4-6 hours of single player etc. I like when a good game company cranks out a good game and sells well, if drm can help them (as long as it ain't intrusive, requiring internet connection etc), let it be. Back to topic though, the longest I've seen a drm hold its ground is double agent, 8 months!

 

[Grings]

Damn, i nearly bought Silent Hunter yesterday, glad i didn't now...

These new drm's take the piss, what about in 5+ years time when you feel all nostalgic and want to play one of these games (like i did for fallout1 after finishing fallout3) and the f***ing server is no longer online?

Dicks, there's £35 lost, and not to piracy!

 

[newtekie1]

Damn, i nearly bought Silent Hunter yesterday, glad i didn't now...

These new drm's take the piss, what about in 5+ years time when you feel all nostalgic and want to play one of these games (like i did for fallout1 after finishing fallout3) and the f***ing server is no longer online?

Dicks, there's £35 lost, and not to piracy!

Thats the thing with this particular DRM, according to Ubisoft, a simple patch will remove it. So when the servers go offline, the patch is released. Of course if Ubisoft can release a patch to remove the DRM, so can the hackers...

 

[Kreij]

Let's take a little nostalgic trip back in time.
Some of you might remember when games on floppies.
They used a protection scheme where certain bytes on the floppies were written at a voltage level such that it would randomly switch between a zero and one.
The copy protection was simply to read the byte repeatedly and if it did not change, it was a bootleg copy. You needed special hardware to get your floppy drive to write these bytes, which made casual copying impossible (although the hardware was readily available if you knew about it).
No interwebz, no authentification and downloading a copy (from a BBS) was worthless.

Fast forward 20 or so years and you will notice that the old copy protection is still better, less invasive and requires no tubes. I know that you cannot compare a floppy disk to optical media, but there are always inexpensive ways to thwart the casual pirates without penalizing the real customers.

I don't think they are putting on their thinking caps when it comes to DRM. With all the technology we have today they should be doing a lot better.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[niko084]

However, in this isntance, I think the DRM has gone too far, and am glad it was cracked so quickly.

While I am much more against DRM, I do understand the desire for the companies to do it.

Issue being now, it's going too far and nothing is going to stop it, the protection will get better and the cracks will get better until there is no more.

Even in a round about way, a few will ruin it for the majority yet once again.