Up to 30,40,50% off on (1050,1050ti), (10603G, 6G), (1070, 1080)

[Nabarun]

Tomorrow (17th March, 12PM - 1PM IST) there's gonna be a swift, 1 hour online sell of these nvidia cards in one of our local shops. So, is it gonna be worth it to buy any of these cards at these prices atm? I am particularly interested in the 1060 6GB. Although they are currently discussing about the offer prices (I called), the 1060 6GB is likely to cost almost 100 USD less than even the RX480 4GB's current price - about as much as a RX470 4GB. Since VEGA is only gonna be a "high end" card and the 500 series will just be a re-brand of the 400s, does it look like a good deal? I was hoping to get a AMD one because of the long term driver support and more performance improvements over time compared to nvidia. I don't plan to upgrade this next one anytime soon. nvidia's 1100 series isn't coming out shortly, is it?

 

[medi01]

Depends on plans with adaptive sync I guess.
That 100$ that you save on nvidia card will cost you 150-200$ when you buy adaptive sync monitor.

 

[kn00tcn]

1060 6gb for less than 4gb 480? sounds like go for it

4670k? sounds like potential bottlenecks with minimum fps, although they would likely be worse if you got a 480

does performance over time matter? that is, if you like the performance now, later would be a bonus

 

[Nabarun]

Depends on plans with adaptive sync I guess.
That 100$ that you save on nvidia card will cost you 150-200$ when you buy adaptive sync monitor.

That is true, sadly. I also need a monitor. My cats pissed on the current one and fucked up 30% of the screen. The AMD Freesync ones are quite cheap and I was thinking about getting one. If I get the nvidia one then obviously any sync is outta the window. But would it really matter that much, if I play in 1080p? I mean, I mostly play Warface, which is a 100% nvidia thing and uses old DX API. I think I will get steady 60 FPS even with vsync turned ON, so no worries about frame-drop/stutter etc. This is the only game where those milliseconds matter to me. I "may" think about Battlefield 1 in the future, if my.com completely fucks up the game and nothing is done about cheaters and latency issues. But as of now, "sync" would be nice, but not absolutely necessary, since nowadays I only play single player games very casually and don't spend much on AAA titles.

1060 6gb for less than 4gb 480? sounds like go for it

4670k? sounds like potential bottlenecks with minimum fps, although they would likely be worse if you got a 480

does performance over time matter? that is, if you like the performance now, later would be a bonus

I didn't think 4670K would be considered a bottleneck so soon. In any case, a CPU upgrade isn't something I'm thinking about.

 

[Vayra86]

1060 6gb for less than 4gb 480? sounds like go for it

4670k? sounds like potential bottlenecks with minimum fps, although they would likely be worse if you got a 480

does performance over time matter? that is, if you like the performance now, later would be a bonus

Ehm...

An i5 4670k does NOT bottleneck these mid range cards at all, and you're still running it stock, these CPUs easily OC to over 4.2 Ghz on 4 cores, so don't even bother considering an upgrade there. Jumping to Kaby Lake i5 would give you PERHAPS 10-15% gaming performance but ONLY if you pair that with a GTX 1080 or stronger. Haswell barely has lower IPC than Skylake and it clocks very well.

I wouldn't personally pay extra for Gsync or Freesync. Focus on good panel qualities like a higher refresh rate, panel tech (IPS/VA) and/or resolution.

On Warface... that looks like a classic free to play moneygrab, I'd phase it out sooner rather than later

 

[Beertintedgoggles]

Ehm...

An i5 4670k does NOT bottleneck these mid range cards at all, and you're still running it stock, these CPUs easily OC to over 4.2 Ghz on 4 cores, so don't even bother considering an upgrade there. Jumping to Kaby Lake i5 would give you PERHAPS 10-15% gaming performance but ONLY if you pair that with a GTX 1080 or stronger. Haswell barely has lower IPC than Skylake and it clocks very well.

I wouldn't personally pay extra for Gsync or Freesync. Focus on good panel qualities like a higher refresh rate, panel tech (IPS/VA) and/or resolution.

On Warface... that looks like a classic free to play moneygrab, I'd phase it out sooner rather than later

Exactly! What most call a bottleneck these days (and I'll admit they are technically correct) is when you lose that top 10fps at 150fps. Can you squeeze more out of the mid and higher end GPUs with a "better" CPU.... if you love charts and Excel plots of your fps during gaming then sure.

Edit: And once again I helped not one iota with the main topic.... sorry about that.

 

[Nabarun]

Sooo what do I dooooo? Wait for AMD price cut (which may not happen at all)?

 

[Beertintedgoggles]

Sooo what do I dooooo? Wait for AMD price cut (which may not happen at all)?

Can't help you much there.... I still have an Nvidia GTX470 and that was bought second hand back when for Folding@Home. Either way you likely won't go wrong, just imagine yourself with each purchase separately and think of the regrets you'd have of not purchasing the other. Let's face it, most purchases between comparable products comes down to emotion at the end of the day!

 

[Vayra86]

Sooo what do I dooooo? Wait for AMD price cut (which may not happen at all)?

If you're on the fence, let price be the judge. If you can get a 1060 6gb for a similar or lower price than the RX480 4gb, go 1060. If RX480 8gb is cheaper, go there. They're in the same ballpark. Do watch that 3gb version, I mistyped it here earlier, just noticed you expect 6gb to drop in price, which would be a very good deal.

Avoid 1050/1050ti, too weak for many recent games at 1080p, obsolete too fast.

 

[Nabarun]

If you're on the fence, let price be the judge. If you can get a 1060 6gb for a similar or lower price than the RX480 4gb, go 1060. If RX480 8gb is cheaper, go there. They're in the same ballpark. Do watch that 3gb version, I mistyped it here earlier, just noticed you expect 6gb to drop in price, which would be a very good deal.

Avoid 1050/1050ti, too weak for many recent games at 1080p, obsolete too fast.

Yeah I noticed that. Would be nice to grab the 10606G if the price really drops down to RX470 4G levels. I'm gonna miss out on the Free sync monitor, though. Don't wanna go the gsync way at all. So my next problem will be choosing the right monitor. But that's for a future thread may be. For now I just have to decide on the GPU fast, since it will only be for an hour. I'm not sure which SKUs will be on sale and the exact offer prices.

 

[kn00tcn]

An i5 4670k does NOT bottleneck these mid range cards at all
...
On Warface... that looks like a classic free to play moneygrab, I'd phase it out sooner rather than later

warface is free, i played several hours, got to use different weapons, it was fun...

Exactly! What most call a bottleneck these days (and I'll admit they are technically correct) is when you lose that top 10fps at 150fps.

unlike most people/reviews, i actually care about minimum fps, i care about stutters below 60 vsync, i also pay attention to what the non hyperthreaded intel cpus are doing in every ryzen benchmark

i did say POTENTIAL bottleneck, i didnt say it's a crap cpu, that it will be a problem all the time, or any exaggeration like that... i am not ignoring OP's "long term driver support and more performance improvements over time compared to nvidia. I don't plan to upgrade this next one anytime soon"

obviously uncapped 105 vs 120fps isnt a big deal, then again some 120hz users probably care about that

 

[Vayra86]

warface is free, i played several hours, got to use different weapons, it was fun...


unlike most people/reviews, i actually care about minimum fps, i care about stutters below 60 vsync, i also pay attention to what the non hyperthreaded intel cpus are doing in every ryzen benchmark

i did say POTENTIAL bottleneck, i didnt say it's a crap cpu, that it will be a problem all the time, or any exaggeration like that... i am not ignoring OP's "long term driver support and more performance improvements over time compared to nvidia. I don't plan to upgrade this next one anytime soon"

obviously uncapped 105 vs 120fps isnt a big deal, then again some 120hz users probably care about that

Minimum FPS is not an issue here either because an i5 4670k will never bottleneck a midrange GPU like the RX480 or GTX1060. It's all about balance, when you go to a 1070 or 1080 then your situation may pop up, in a small selection of games/situations, but below that, not happening.

 

[kn00tcn]

Minimum FPS is not an issue here either because an i5 4670k will never bottleneck a midrange GPU like the RX480 or GTX1060. It's all about balance, when you go to a 1070 or 1080 then your situation may pop up, in a small selection of games/situations, but below that, not happening.

not happening? i've seen a 2500k cause a 970 (equal to 480) drop to 60% gpu usage in battlefield dipping the fps to 40 with all 4 cpu cores at 95+%, proving that some games are starting to have real world limits if there arent more than 4 hyperthreaded cores

so then you say overclock that 2500k, sure, eventually it will match a 4670k... but this can only go so far

a few ryzen benchmarks are hanging dangerously around 60fps, it doesnt matter how powerful the gpu used is if the cpu is dropping below vsync, these tests with high end show us how low the cpu can go

a midrange card would have to be overloaded to the point of easily going under 60 for the cpu to no longer be a bottleneck... but wont some people start turning down settings? which settings? lower some shader/post settings yet the fps wont go up

i remember people constantly saying q6600 is so good for years, no it wasnt, even my overclocked q9550 was bottlenecking almost a decade ago on a 4870x2, it still bottlenecks a 660 at times, certain games are simply cpu speed heavy or cpu core heavy, there is no sense in pretending they dont exist

this isnt a hard concept, minimums & worst cases are a thing, amd drivers demanding more form the cpu in dx11/ogl are a thing, OP wants to last for years

yes of course most games are fine, will they continue to be?