upgrade advice from p4 3.4ghz prescott

david419 · May 2, 2009

hi all, i have just joined this forum as i need a bit of advice, i want to upgrade my p4 which is the p4 3.4ghz 650 ht prescott (running @3.8ghz) to a core2duo but i wanted a bit of advice as to which cpu would be better than my p4.

i am after a few ideas as to what cpu to get as i keep looking on the net and getting all sorts of answers, i have heard good things about the e4300 so i think thats the minimum i would go for but i wanted to know how much better the c2d is compared to my p4.

many thanks.

h3llb3nd4 · May 2, 2009

Welcome to TPU

TBH all C2D chips can kick a P4's ass
Try running super PI on your P4 and compare it to any C2D

try filling this out would also help

Mussels · May 2, 2009

david419 said:
hi all, i have just joined this forum as i need a bit of advice, i want to upgrade my p4 which is the p4 3.4ghz 650 ht prescott (running @3.8ghz) to a core2duo but i wanted a bit of advice as to which cpu would be better than my p4.

i am after a few ideas as to what cpu to get as i keep looking on the net and getting all sorts of answers, i have heard good things about the e4300 so i think thats the minimum i would go for but i wanted to know how much better the c2d is compared to my p4.

many thanks.

any core 2, even the lowest ones, will decimate a P4.

aCid888* · May 2, 2009

Well your obviously at least somewhat PC savvy, as you like to OC....so a E8xxx (whatever one you have money for) and either the Asus P5Q Pro or Gigabyte UD3 will be a great upgrade.

On the lines of cooling, maybe look at the Xigmatek HDT1283 and you wont go far wrong. :toast:

Every C2D will stomp the P4, even the lowly E2200 will be better, and clock for clock, the P4 is about 6 times slower.

Edit: Also, fill out your System Specs in your Control Panel, it will assist us more.

david419 · May 2, 2009

many thanks just filled out the system specs so any more help would be great.

aCid888* · May 2, 2009

Thanks, a location also helps so when you have time please fill that out too.

I see you already have a Gigabyte....I assume you like it so you should try the "Gigabyte Ultra Durable 3" and a E8500, 9.5 multi plus a board that likes to do 500fsb+ easily is a huge upgrade from your P4, even the E8500 @ 1.8GHz would :nutkick:

your 3.8GHz P4 without breaking a sweat.

Also, for better OC results you should really consider a HDT-1283 as it will keep that E8500 @ 4GHz at about 45'C load; dependent on your case airflow and volts - I based it on 1.3v.

h3llb3nd4 · May 2, 2009

yep

acid give good suggestions

aCid888* · May 2, 2009

He cant really go wrong upgrading to a C2D, he has a P4! :roll:

More detail in your SysSpecs would be great, what PSU brand/what watts/amps on 12v rail(s) would be a great start.....a quality PC is 60% of anyone's rig, without one you will blow things up from a poor PSU.

h3llb3nd4 · May 2, 2009

Yeah, and I want you E8400

david419 · May 2, 2009

thanks i just ran the super pi test like h3llb3nd4 mentioned and it does the 1mb test in 35 seconds lol.

definatly time for an upgrade, can anyone name any sort of budget c2d that would overclock a bit and still beat my p4 easy.
a local shop sells the e6300 are they any good and would i see an improvement?

sorry to sound stupid but dont wanna change cpu only to not notice any difference in performance

aCid888* · May 2, 2009

One screenshot for you my man.

10.3 seconds @ 4.2GHz

Edit: Tell us where you are from and we can help you so much better.

h3llb3nd4 · May 2, 2009

nice you sent me the same screenshot

isn't it 9.782?

DaveK · May 2, 2009

I went from a P4 630 @ 3GHz to a C2D E4300 @ 1.8GHz and there was such a difference, HD video converting of a movie using Xilisoft Video Converter went from 12 hours to about 6, which is a huge improvement, especially with a higher end one.

david419 · May 2, 2009

hi im from southend-on-sea in essex,
my psu is only a crappy one like this in the link

http://www.spirecoolers.com/main/product_detail.asp?ProdID=698

h3llb3nd4 · May 2, 2009

oh, I'm blind these days:shadedshu

kurosagi01 · May 2, 2009

oh you live in england?? thats great

you should consider looking at websites from..
www.scan.co.uk
www.ebuyer.com
www.novatech.co.uk
Have a look around those websites,they are best for components in UK i recon heres what acid reconmend?? £260 from novatech:

aCid888* · May 2, 2009

Not a great PSU...and for parts, I'd look here: www.ebuyer.com

Cheap, reliable and they wont fuck you over like most other etailers.

On a note of the E6300, all E6xx CPUs are 65nm, more heat and lower OC's (still damn fast at the side of the P4)
Everything with a higher number starting in the 7's are 45nm parts, run cooler, higher OC's and less voltage needed to clock higher; also, the E5xxx is 45nm.

This is a solid cheap setup.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148715
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152175
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/105994

This is more expensive but the best buy in my view:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139971
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/148075
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155486
OR
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145751

Edit: Thanks for posting more sites, thats a good deal on the parts....he should compare prices and get the cheapest he can. :toast:

kurosagi01 · May 2, 2009

hmm the asus p5q pro is cheaper on novatech than ebuyer

then again ebuyer did screw me up big time on my OCZ psu lmao and replaced it for the corsair

david419 · May 2, 2009

many thanks for the replies.

i have a freezer 7 pro in the box unused so i guess i will use that, are the e5200 ok as i thought they were just pentium dual core as opposed to core2duo this seems like my budget so will that still leave my p4 standing?

aCid888* · May 2, 2009

Yes, the E5200 will do about 3.6GHz without a worry, a good one will do much better.

The freezer is a nice cooler for that CPU too, you wont go far wrong.....also, anything in the C2D range will leave your P4 for dead, even at stock speeds so you don't need to worry about having any issues.

NinkobEi · May 2, 2009

is there a place to find the Xigmatek s1283 still? last time I searched I found nothing

r9 · May 2, 2009

If you want go cheap and still kick some ass E5200 will kick it.

JrRacinFan · May 2, 2009

Even a lowly e1400 chip will kick the n**s off that P4. As far as motherboard is concerned, go P45.

h3llb3nd4 · May 2, 2009

I still have a G31

david419 · May 2, 2009

JrRacinFan said:
Even a lowly e1400 chip will kick the n**s off that P4. As far as motherboard is concerned, go P45.

whats a good p45 motherboard then? i think i will be going with the e5200 so any suggestions for a board?

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