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Upgrade GTX 460 to 780 Ti -- worthwhile?

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#1
Just bought a 780 Ti to upgrade my aging rig. My only concerns are:
  • some folks are reporting stuttering issues from what I've read in the forums (especially in old games where a card like GTX 780 Ti is way too fast)
  • from what I've read, compute on these cards is seriously gimped
Is there anything my rusty old GTX 460 or an old Fermi (say a GTX 580) would beat a 780 Ti at (compute-related), as I intend to use this rig to get more into games development & 3d design (some 3ds Max/UDK etc)? I bought the Asus DCU2 version by the way, if it helps.

Also how big of an improvement should I expect in say BF4 (main game I'm upgrading for), BFBC2, Titanfall etc?
 
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BF4 and other games you will notice a huge jump, maybe twice as fast. Don't know about compute.
 

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Yep, especially if you still use that 120hz monitor.

780Ti probably still has more compute ability then the 460 actually.

In actually gaming compute doesn't matter.
 

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You're going to notice a huge jump in almost all games, some more substantial than others. but you should see and feel a difference in all games, even RTS games visuals (even thoigh game mechanics rely more on cpu).
 
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Yep, especially if you still use that 120hz monitor.

780Ti probably still has more compute ability then the 460 actually.

In actually gaming compute doesn't matter.
I'm hoping it will at least get close to maxing BF4 at around 120 FPS without lowering image quality much (at the moment I have it at mostly low settings to get 50-70ish FPS)?

I know compute doesn't mean much in games, but should I need to use it later, will it still be faster than say, a GTX 580 Fermi?
 

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Yeah, most definitely! You're looking at more than double the performance. Very good upgrade, especially if you can find a 780 Ti at a good price.
 
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A GTX 780Ti is a huge increase in performance over a GTX 460 as people have already said. I checked the review here and W1zzard benched BF4 at 84.7 FPS at 1080p using 4x AA. I don't know if he had all settings maxed out but that's very good for BF4 imo.

As to your concern about playing older games you could always swap out the 780Ti with the 460 when playing older games if you have problems.
 
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Thanks for the heads up on the performance upgrade, folks. Am looking forward to it now.

A GTX 780Ti is a huge increase in performance over a GTX 460 as people have already said. I checked the review here and W1zzard benched BF4 at 84.7 FPS at 1080p using 4x AA. I don't know if he had all settings maxed out but that's very good for BF4 imo.

As to your concern about playing older games you could always swap out the 780Ti with the 460 when playing older games if you have problems.
The only problem is, I have about 4 different Windows 7 installs for different things -- for example I have 2 separate installs for games (1 for games that take ages to load like BF4 on my 250GB SSD, another for mostly single player ones that don't need much HDD speed) and 1 for work -- I do this so I don't get distracted with gaming when I have to work. What you're saying means I'd have to re-install the GPU on every Windows installation every time I run the card. I just hope I don't have to swap them as you say, as it will cause me more hassle than it's worth.

The other thing I'm slightly worried about is my PSU, which has been running my rig almost non-stop for over 3 years -- should I be ready to replace it?
 
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I don't play many old games, but I don't have any issues playing MechWarrior 4 (DX7 game released in 2000) with my 780ti.
 
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The 460 would make a good physx add in card as well as the ti
 
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Thanks for the heads up on the performance upgrade, folks. Am looking forward to it now.



The only problem is, I have about 4 different Windows 7 installs for different things -- for example I have 2 separate installs for games (1 for games that take ages to load like BF4 on my 250GB SSD, another for mostly single player ones that don't need much HDD speed) and 1 for work -- I do this so I don't get distracted with gaming when I have to work. What you're saying means I'd have to re-install the GPU on every Windows installation every time I run the card. I just hope I don't have to swap them as you say, as it will cause me more hassle than it's worth.

The other thing I'm slightly worried about is my PSU, which has been running my rig almost non-stop for over 3 years -- should I be ready to replace it?
You should only have to install the drivers for the 780Ti in each WIN7 installation. Also your psu should be fine, as the 780Ti is rated at 250 watts TDP. Honestly your 780Ti won't use much more power than your old Fermi card.
 

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Is the original post missing?
 
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Thanks a lot for the help, folks. Will wait until it arrives.
 
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I've seen a few sales on 780 Ti cards, but what I find appalling is there's still no models with 4GB or more VRAM, and if there were, they'd be even more ridiculously expensive.

Don't assume Watch Dogs is just an anomaly that won't catch on. We may see lots more games that require boatloads of VRAM in the next 2 or 3 years.

If you insist on Nvidia, you may want to consider a 770 4GB model for $400. Then add another when the prices drop.
 
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Simple answer

Yep!