upgrade i5 2500k Intel or AMD ?

[EarthDog]

You mean better performance with intel (eg 10400f) with 1680x1050 ?

Will I see an improvement (not a small one) with the 3600 ?

Yes.

I've already stated you will see a significant improvement over your 2500K. Please keep up.

EDIT: Either system will be fine. But so long as you are gaming at 1080p or less, you want higher clocks to get the most out of the GPU. Will you be fine either way? Yes. Just look at the chart on the first page for 720p results

 

[spudknife]

The 10700 have much better gaming performance and 8c/16t is better future proof than the 3600.

I will become mad few hours ago I will buy 3600 now 10700f ....

 

[EarthDog]

You just need to make a choice and do it. You'll be happy with either.... as was said by myself and others several times.

 

[kayjay010101]

Keep in mind the H410 chipset limits the RAM speed to 2666MHz (your RAM is rated for 3200) which can result in a noticeable performance impact.

 

[spudknife]

The only thing I lose with Intel is the zen 3 architecture but if I have a 10700f it will not be a big issue.

 

[ppn]

H410 still needs one well placed fan above the CPU socket VRM. VRM are so tiny and probably less efficient and get hot.

2666,2933 in case of 10700F,

Noticeable impact with 2080Ti and such. framerates above 100. Who plays with 100 FPS, I prefer better quality at 80-90

 

[spudknife]

Keep in mind the H410 chipset limits the RAM speed to 2666MHz (your RAM is rated for 3200) which can result in a noticeable performance impact.

no I think it is 2933

 

[lexluthermiester]

no I think it is 2933

Mate, that Ryzen list you had a few posts ago is golden. Go with that as it a solid setup that leaves room for upgrades and some future-proofing.

 

[spudknife]

Mate, that Ryzen list you had a few posts ago is golden. Go with that as it a solid setup that leaves room for upgrades and some future-proofing.

About zen 3 future proof in the best case every new generation improve ipc from 10 to 20% I am not sure i will beat 10700f

 

[Hemmingstamp]

Still not there yet

 

[lexluthermiester]

I am not sure i will beat 10700f

Don't worry about it. For gaming a GPU is vastly more important than a CPU for most games anyway. Worrying about the very slight difference you would experience between a Ryzen 3600 and an i7-10700f is like trying to put C3PO back together with bubble-gum(complete waste of time).

 

[Hemmingstamp]

Just picked up a brand new Ryzen 5 3600 for 140 Sterlings because the box is damaged. Winner!

 

[xman2007]

Just picked up a brand new Ryzen 5 3600 for 140 Sterlings because the box is damaged. Winner!

Where from? I'll have to keep an eye out for one at that price it's one of the last upgrades I have planned

 

[Hemmingstamp]

Where from? I'll have to keep an eye out for one at that price it's one of the last upgrades I have planned

The Bay, Currys listings. Got the last one.

 

[spudknife]

With 10700f I don t need any upgrade for 5 years at least

 

[EarthDog]

With 10700f I don t need any upgrade for 5 years at least

Same with the AMD. The difference is ~10% more frames throughout (so long as you game at that low resolution - when you upgrade to 1080p or more that difference is negligible).

With AMD, you have an upgrade path to Zen 3. But, in five years, you'd be updating to 5 y.o technology with little improvements but more cores/threads. If that is how you work (keep rigs for a few/several years) and replace the guts, seems to me like the intel is the better choice, regardless if the difference is just under 10% in gaming.

EDIT: Note - here is 10700K (little differences in F)... note how it performs versus a 3700/3700x around your low resolution. That is ~15% difference.

Intel Core i7-10700K Review - Unlocked and Loaded

The Core i7-10700K is Intel's second strongest overclockable Comet Lake CPU, with a powerful 8c/16t configuration. We saw pretty amazing tweaking potential from the 10700 non-K, so we'll definitely compare against that in the Core i7-10700K review, and of course against AMD's Ryzen 9 3900X.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Hemmingstamp]

With 10700f I don t need any upgrade for 5 years at least

Is that your final answer?

Just go with what you want.

 

[EarthDog]

Is that your final answer?

Just go with what you want.

If we stop replying (me included) he may hit the buy button.

 

[lexluthermiester]

With 10700f I don t need any upgrade for 5 years at least

That depends on your usage. With a Ryzen 3700x you wouldn't need to either, and you still save yourself a chunk of money.

 

[ppn]

funny thing 4750G is cheaper than 3700X and 10700F it has on-die memory controller that makes it faster + integrated GFX to keep it going in between GPU upgrades. Combined with the soon to be released A520 itx (no 1151 holes) makes it perfect for HTPC. You really don't need the water cooling for 65 watt CPU.

 

[spudknife]

Sorry but I insist with the watercooler my rig is in a closed shelf (i open the door when I play), I need to be able to blow the air in front of the case. And About the 3700x + watercooler still more money than 10700f and less performance.

So the winner is : 10700f (for me)

Thanks you all the TPU community

 

[ppn]

Have you lost the AM4 brackets for the water cooling. Should be included.

 

[spudknife]

enermax LiqTech ELC-LT120X-HP (not AM4 compatible), I ask enermax there is no AM4 brackets.

https://www.enermaxeu.com/wp-content/uploads/Support/Discontinued-Products/Coolers/Dowloads/liqtech_datasheet_en.pdf

So the winner is : 10700f (for me)

Thread closed and ty

I pressed buy ^^